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I just had the coolest experience yet with bufotene..some insane visions of impossible machines I ant begin to describe..right after smking DMT.

I smoked a hit of jungly changa..I saw the mandala and felt myself sort of oozing away..did not break through...I dont know why..either I burned it or misjudged my dose(eyeballed it) or i had some sort of tolerance from smoking earlir today with more success at the same dose..

So after about 5 minutes of watching the cobwebs of light on the walls I loaded up another hit of the DMT changa and still only got a powerful trip..some nice visuals but not a full breakthrough..I opened my eyes and felt like I had drank a lot of aya though..soo euphoric and nice blending of reality..

Oh well I thought..I will try again another day..and out came the vial of bufotenine changa..
I had wanted to take bufo right after droppig out of hyperspace for a while now, this would be a good test I thought.

So I smoked 2 large hits of it..and there was NO nausea at all..this was the smoothest bufo experience I haveever had..I think all the maoi's already built up from the DMT changa blocked the constriction completely, and I was still feeling the DMT strongly with tons of euphoria..all it did was build on that..

At first there was no more visuals than the lingering DMT..I went put on some headphones and some adham shaikh and began to get some real intersting visuals, and I think that the harmalas in the vilca changa kept the DMT cycling as well..

So after 5 or 6 minutes of that I took another huge hit of the vilca changa of shut off all the lights and music andlay back and closed my eyes..thats when I started to have some real crasy visions..it started with rainbow mandalas.. arabic..very unlike DMT..these for me are like the trademark of bufo..yet there was something different about them as well..they were so damn intricate..bufo visuals are usally very detailed but I could tell the DMT was boosting the bufotenine and adding a bit of it's character..everything was made of millions of digital looking jewals that shimmered when I focussed on them..and I had real relaxed and pleasant body effects..

The mandalas became machines and giant rotating spheres that opened as they rotated presnenting even more complex interiors that opened again to even more complex interiors..I would find myslef staring up at what looked like patterned domed ceilings inside hyperspace temples, and then the scene would change back to the machines or other things I cannot decribe..I also heard the carrier wave slightly in the middle of the bufo peak..it was weird.

I also saw this wall of complex patterns emitting bright white light with rainbows of other colours behind it and I was flying towards it with eyes closed..and then I hit it and my visuals field lit up fully with white light for about 1 second until I passed through it and then my whole visual field dimmed down, and I was in this place on the other side of it..like some sort of space made of irridescent blue patterns..it was sort of like breaking through to another level..but I was still fully aware of my body laying there unlike a DMT breakthrough..

Thats all I can really remember right now..but it was soo cool. Im going to dose like this way more often now..shoot for a good DMT breakthrough and then right when I come out have a pipe of bufotenine ready. It's great becasue it gives me more time to stay in a tryptamine headspace to integrate the DMT trip, and the DMT then also flows through into the bufo trip and seems to make the bufo side effects non-existant..hopefully it's consistant in those effects.
 
dang it....now i have to order up some vilca seeds and do a bufo extraction again..... that just sounded too awesome brother.

nice read. thank you!

L&G!!
 
yeah vilca is really worth exploring..have you had any luck with it?

I had many painful/nauseating experiences with vilca seeds until I finally figured out a way that worked for me. If it wasnt for 69rons reports and Otts findings I probabily would never have tried again.

Once I found a method of dosing it that worked for me and got to the visionary level though I was hooked.
 
well by all means SHARE this wisdom with us!! i've had 2 extractions on cebil seeds yield undeniable bufotening. smoking it, however....not so successful....felt like i smoked and smoked and all it amounted to was a tingly skull, severe nausea and a harshed throat and lungs.... :(

i've been trying and trying with bufo since first reading one of ron's posts raving about the stuff....i would really love to find out how to experience it's wisdom....your journey has me re-motivated....

what did you extract from? what tek? how you smoking it? how much? WHAT'S THE SECRET YOU GUYS????

L&G!!
 
fractal i found that dmt with bufotenine was so much better than just bufotenine alone..bufotenine while interesting lacks the explosive power that i am use to with dmt...i also find that the dmt helps so much with the bufotenine's side effects...and especially when combined with harmalas...id much rather smoke the two together than bufotenine by itself...especially if im looking for a more visionary experience..instead of the quick dmt peak..

glad you had a nice experience fractal..

also antrocles..the biggest key is GOOD seeds...crappy seeds suck...the other thing that i have noticed is...i really feel that you have to work with bufotenine for awhile for your body to figure out how to use it correctly...i smoked a lot of bufotenine and only got crappy side effects...but i was always interested in it..so i kept going back for more..and it seems the more you work with it the better it gets...especially if you want to stay totally aware of your body...it really helps ground you....hmmm perhaps smoking a bit of bufotenine on some pharma would be good!!!! i may have to try this out..
 
Also, could someone please explain a typical bufo experienc.
SWIM is has never tried it, but its reports like these that spark my interest.
As I understand it, and please correct me if i am wrong, the trip is pretty much totaaly visual i.e you dont have any mind alteration...no mind fuck, just intense visuals. Is this accurate? How long does a typical bufo experiance last? same as dmt?
I have also read that the physical effects can be a little undesirable. Is nausea typical? Is the body load any worse that with dmt. I sometimes get quite a bad body load with spice. Kinda feels like lactic acid throughout my body.
Is it like that?
 
bufo experience lasts a bit longer than dmt...if just bufotenine it may be around 10-15minute peak with 1-2 hours of after effects...with harmalas the peak may last about an hour...or more..hard to tell...there is some body load...minor nausea..if you smoke it slow enough...but the body load turns to euphoria..and the visuals are kinda strobe like...especially when eyes opened...its like seeing multicolored rainbow chunks flashing all over the place...closed eye is where the real magic begins...sometimes there is feelings of movement..even though you are totally still sitting in bed...like flying around...its very nice..

i find a little bit of dmt really brightens the visuals..gives them some light..so you dont have to smoke as much bufo..which increases side effects..
 
Nice report :)

I find that bufotenine has it's own kind of mind fuck. There is a little anxiety, but it's a lot more calm than the standard tryptamine feeling. It makes me feel very slow, which isn't really a hinderence because I'm not exactly going to be doing my tax return after using it. It reminds me of being really tired, but very much awake at the same time. I guess vacant is the word. But very aware in a different sense.
 
Jorkest said:
bufo experience lasts a bit longer than dmt...if just bufotenine it may be around 10-15minute peak with 1-2 hours of after effects...with harmalas the peak may last about an hour...or more..hard to tell...there is some body load...minor nausea..if you smoke it slow enough...but the body load turns to euphoria..and the visuals are kinda strobe like...especially when eyes opened...its like seeing multicolored rainbow chunks flashing all over the place...closed eye is where the real magic begins...sometimes there is feelings of movement..even though you are totally still sitting in bed...like flying around...its very nice..

i find a little bit of dmt really brightens the visuals..gives them some light..so you dont have to smoke as much bufo..which increases side effects..
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So how exactly does it differ from dmt.
In a blind smoking test, how would you know its bufo that you had smoked?
 
It takes longer to come on, has a more organic theme, you feel a prickly sensation in your head long before any visuals, its a much harsher smoke, it lasts longer. Other than the fact it's a smokeable tryptamine, it's very different.
 
There are some minor mental effects..mainly euphoria and relaxation..and ya I agree soulfood there is some mindwarp but it is strange and unique to bufo..nothing like DMT...and I get sort of tactile feelings like I can feel the visuals as I see them sort of..the mental effects also change if go into full visions..like sometimes at real high doses I have gotten pulled somewhere..similar to aya. sort of like visionary dreams..when this happens I usually see other people and thing like that. Once I actaully sort of merged with this littel girl I saw and we climbed out this wondow and were searching for something..a person she lost..another time I saw my mothers funeral:?..her casket was there and there were flowers people had left behind..at first I was sort of sad but then I snapped out of it and thought..hey..my moms alive and well..I then felt that the vision was some sort of test..thats at very high doses though. When those vissions are happening it's like I am outside of my normal mindset..I sort of forget I took anything..alot like visionary dreaming..

Other than that the effects are very similar to psilocybin in many ways..yet different as well..when I first started to get the visions with bufo it felt alot like mushrooms..but after many of these trips I find it unique..there is nothing like it..and in many ways the complexity of the visions at high doses are stunning..easily at par with DMT and psilocybin..but different.

Jorkest is right that it seems to lack the real explosive power and dimensional mind warp of DMT..It's mostly euphoria and relaxation..the caapi helps add some more mental effects and really completes the experience I think..I dont take it ever without caapi now. The tribe that makes the best yopo apparently used caapi always with it.

I use the tek that jorkest wrote up in the nexus wiki..the bufo changa one..there is some nausea at the beginning but it's not too bad and the harmalas help it..and you can space out hit..

What I do is I smoke it until I see the visual strobing effects..they are undeniable when they appear..if you get nausea..just wait a few minutes and then smoke some more..once every starts strobing with a strange sort of light..then shut off all the lights and lay back, this is important, even if you feel real sick, just shu off the lights and lay back..and load up the pipe with a another redose to take about 10 minutes later..it usually starts with fuzzy lights and grids faintly behind the eyelids..and then deepens within a few minutes. If you get enough really really stunning visions start forming..I get lots of really weird and strange out there outer space type of stuff alot of the time..like psilocybin..once I am fully absorbed in it all nausea and constriction is usually gone and I feel very relaxed and content..so I take that other dose and that really does it..I have breakthrough like experiences where I tour these strange spaces..as if flying through them..but I am always aware of my body unlike DMT, and if I had to I could probabily go answer the phone even. The mental effects start to get worse though when I try to interact on bufotenine.

Also about half way through the trip, it seems to change into something much much more similar to psilocybin..as if it suddenly metabolises into another tryptamine..69ron has mentioned this as well. At times the afterglow of bufo with caapi for me has been amazing..similar to comming off an aya or mushroom trip..not always though. I seem to connect really well with music durring the afterglow of a high dose trip as well and love to lay back listening to trance for a good hour after..and when I dosed the bufo comming off of the DMT it had a real nice afterglow until I feel asleap.

I think that the main problem is that people dont get enough bufotenine in them..or they dont lay back in the dark and let it happen. I know how bad the nausea can be becasue I have taken huge doses on purpose over this last month and felt VERY sick for the first few minutes, I think lot of people are putoff by this and never get a full dose..This is why vilca and yopo will never be very popular IMO, seems something that remains popular among people interested in shamanism but not as a fun drug really..pure bufo might I dunno never tried crystals but I hear they dont have much nausea.
 
Fractal Enchantment

I havent journeyed with bufotenine before, thank you so very much for your lovely report and giving me a new found interest in bufotenine.


Much Peace and Sunshine
 
I think “mind fuck” is the wrong choice of words to use to describe the effects bufotenine has on the mind. Those words entail the typical LSD “mind fuck”, while 5-MeO-DMT has that to an extreme, and DMT a little, bufotenine doesn’t have it at all. It has effects on the mind, but nothing like the others have. It’s very hard to describe. Calling it “mind fuck” really gives people the wrong impression. I would use the term mentally “intoxicating” or something else. It’s sort of a lazy forgetfulness type of effect. It’s more like a marijuana like effect than the typical psychedelic “mind fuck” effect.

The little anxiety you might get is very short lived. It usually happens only on the onset, and is gone by the peak.

Overall, I think most people find bufotenine to be a fairly relaxed psychedelic compared to the others out there. Bufotenine is different enough that it almost needs it’s own class of psychedelics to belong to. There are elements in the effects that are totally unlike all other psychedelics. The body feel is very unique to it. The mental effects are also very unique to it. The visuals on the tail end of the trip can be similar to psilocybin but at the peak they are unlike anything else.
 
Do you ever forget you have taken bufotenine ron?..becasue at real high doses I have been pulled into full dreamlike sequences that are very strange..and it is like dreaming, but more visionary. I dont know that I am on anything..I am just there as if dreaming..maybe this has to do wth the harmalas added though I dont really know becasue I dont take bufotenine without harmalas..and as soon as I snap out of these dreams I am back feeling relaxed and just having visuals like normal.

Yeah the mental effects are very different from DMT or LSD etc..I get an overwhelming feelinga rushing at times, but it isusually really relaxing..unless I try to get and talk to people or have to do something.
 
fractal...i know what you mean by forgetting that you have done anything..it happens on bufotenine changa and on jimjam changa...its possible its the harmalas...as soon as i open my eyes..im like whoa...ok...i have a body...usually with the jimjam changa its in hyperspace that i loose touch with my body...but the bufo changa is much different..more like a dream...as you say...
 
A high dose of pure smoked bufotenine crystals for SWIM has very minimal effects on the mind. Less than marijuana has, but similar to marijuana. There’s a slight bit of forgetfulness, and you might lose your train of thought, but there’s no psychedelic warping of thoughts present at all for SWIM.

SWIM has not had much experience with the harmala + bufotenine combo. So I can't really comment on that. His high dose bufotenine experiences have all been with pure bufotenine crystals only (with all the impurities removed).

He’s had a few small doses with harmalas and they change the experience quite a bit. With his high dose bufotenine experiences he’s never gotten lost in a vision and forgotten he was on bufotenine like what you guys are talking about with the harmala + bufotenine mix. I think that’s caused by harmine or harmaline in the mix. Both have a good amount of mental effects, much more than bufotenine has on its own. At least that’s how it is for SWIM.

SWIM would compare the mental intoxication as follows:

Coffee < Kava < THH < Bufotenine < mescaline < harmine < harmaline < mushrooms < alcohol < marijuana < DMT < LSD < 5-MeO-DMT
 
69ron said:
His high dose bufotenine experiences have all been with pure bufotenine crystals only (with all the impurities removed).
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any way you can tap out your tek for getting these pure crystals? ....and....most importantly...does ANYONE have a bead on a solid source of quality cebil seeds?

....or is there another, more reliable plant one can extract bufotenine from?

these are the questions that keep me up at night... ;)

L&G!!
 
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