SWIM cant remember the dose of either..just kinda what he felt was right..and its interesting because right after trying this combo..SWIM found those zoe7 books..he read both of them..and they gave him an interesting new perspective to look through..

but from the experience..the first time..it was like just the struggle between salvia and dmt..and then the salvia took over fairly quickly..and was holding onto the dmt..it was like she could direct its energy..and what SWIM perceived was this grid(salvia) containing or separating the dmt from itself..in all these little boxes everywhere..her edges would wobble a bit..but the dmt was not able to break through