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i am starting to think albert you're taking the topic of spirituality way seriously , i don't know if its the best approach

you still know my take on all this does'nt go more than that there is a higher power and thats all i know , details of the workings of the universe is something that seems fruitless for me to understand

using the OX analogy , even if i were to understand everything while being a human i would still be a human , even enlightenment does'nt mean much when seen in this light

i am also starting to see you pointing towards personalism as a spiritual philosophy , as is the case with many who employ methods such as mantra and japa , i myself am in the same boat and do mantra recitation and japa many a times and still confused on personalism vs impersonalism debate in many spiritual circles (even if you're not pointing towards personalism and thts just my creative imagination , i would still like to hear your take on it )

i agree with your original post stating that psychdelics are not innately spiritual and spritual techniques must be employed for greater spiritual results , yet the rest of the thread has spiralled into a mess and i don't understand what benefit you're getting out of picking on Rising Spirit

also i see that you're expecting Rising Spirit to have all the right answers and when it does not match your expectation , it seems to be causing you great discomfort

i just don't see the point to this , if you're expecting all the answers of the universe to be revealed to you by this thread ........i guess thats a laughable notion , also you seem to be expecting rising Spirit to give you all the answers

i don't know whether i should laugh at the whole thread when seen in this light or continue with further analyisis of the situation ,

you're calling Rising Spirit a blind man , what provokes such deep insults ,
even if everything Rising Spirit said is false what difference does it make ? were you really hoping to understand the whole universe by relying on Rising Spirit's information in these matters ? are you hoping Rising Spirit would be the avatar that would help you cross this material ocean of ignorance

such hopes at times can only lead to frustration ,thus you clearly understand why i disfavour the questioning process as all your questions are aimed at humans , what great knowledge you're hoping for is still un-understandable to me :lol: (un-understandable is awesome word .....this is all the knowledge one really needs )

<blockquote data-quote="Jin" data-source="post: 3632137" data-attributes="member: 4019">i am starting to think albert you&#039;re taking the topic of spirituality way seriously , i don&#039;t know if its the best approach you still know my take on all this does&#039;nt go more than that there is a higher power and thats all i know , details of the workings of the universe is something that seems fruitless for me to understand using the OX analogy , even if i were to understand everything while being a human i would still be a human , even enlightenment does&#039;nt mean much when seen in this light i am also starting to see you pointing towards personalism as a spiritual philosophy , as is the case with many who employ methods such as mantra and japa , i myself am in the same boat and do mantra recitation and japa many a times and still confused on personalism vs impersonalism debate in many spiritual circles (even if you&#039;re not pointing towards personalism and thts just my creative imagination , i would still like to hear your take on it ) i agree with your original post stating that psychdelics are not innately spiritual and spritual techniques must be employed for greater spiritual results , yet the rest of the thread has spiralled into a mess and i don&#039;t understand what benefit you&#039;re getting out of picking on Rising Spirit&nbsp; also i see that you&#039;re expecting Rising Spirit to have all the right answers and when it does not match your expectation , it seems to be causing you great discomfort i just don&#039;t see the point to this , if you&#039;re expecting all the answers of the universe to be revealed to you by this thread ........i guess thats a laughable notion , also you seem to be expecting rising Spirit to give you all the answers i don&#039;t know whether i should laugh at the whole thread when seen in this light or continue with further analyisis of the situation ,you&#039;re calling Rising Spirit a blind man , what provokes such deep insults , even if everything Rising Spirit said is false what difference does it make ? were you really hoping to understand the whole universe by relying on Rising Spirit&#039;s information in these matters ? are you hoping Rising Spirit would be the avatar that would help you cross this material ocean of ignorance&nbsp; such hopes at times can only lead to frustration ,thus you clearly understand why i disfavour the questioning process as all your questions are aimed at humans , what great knowledge you&#039;re hoping for is still un-understandable to me :lol: (un-understandable is awesome word .....this is all the knowledge one really needs )</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jin, post: 3632137, member: 4019"] i am starting to think albert you're taking the topic of spirituality way seriously , i don't know if its the best approach you still know my take on all this does'nt go more than that there is a higher power and thats all i know , details of the workings of the universe is something that seems fruitless for me to understand using the OX analogy , even if i were to understand everything while being a human i would still be a human , even enlightenment does'nt mean much when seen in this light i am also starting to see you pointing towards personalism as a spiritual philosophy , as is the case with many who employ methods such as mantra and japa , i myself am in the same boat and do mantra recitation and japa many a times and still confused on personalism vs impersonalism debate in many spiritual circles (even if you're not pointing towards personalism and thts just my creative imagination , i would still like to hear your take on it ) i agree with your original post stating that psychdelics are not innately spiritual and spritual techniques must be employed for greater spiritual results , yet the rest of the thread has spiralled into a mess and i don't understand what benefit you're getting out of picking on Rising Spirit also i see that you're expecting Rising Spirit to have all the right answers and when it does not match your expectation , it seems to be causing you great discomfort i just don't see the point to this , if you're expecting all the answers of the universe to be revealed to you by this thread ........i guess thats a laughable notion , also you seem to be expecting rising Spirit to give you all the answers i don't know whether i should laugh at the whole thread when seen in this light or continue with further analyisis of the situation , you're calling Rising Spirit a blind man , what provokes such deep insults , even if everything Rising Spirit said is false what difference does it make ? were you really hoping to understand the whole universe by relying on Rising Spirit's information in these matters ? are you hoping Rising Spirit would be the avatar that would help you cross this material ocean of ignorance such hopes at times can only lead to frustration ,thus you clearly understand why i disfavour the questioning process as all your questions are aimed at humans , what great knowledge you're hoping for is still un-understandable to me :lol: (un-understandable is awesome word .....this is all the knowledge one really needs ) [/QUOTE]