"In my view, it's more a no-thing, as in not a recognizable thing."

I could start a whole other thread just about that. I understand and agree with you, I seperate that idea from the common idea of a void though. I will stop there otherwise I will write too much and end up contradicting myself..becasue I think you have to conradict yourself to even begin talking about that whole subject..and then it comes out sounding like nonsense.