Starting taking Syrian Rue seeds - Advice needed

[TransistorBass]

This weekend was going to be the start of me experimenting with taking Syrian Rue seeds but I've got a medical thing happening tomorrow and I'll be injected with a dye during a scan so to be safe I'll steer clear of harmalas this weekend.

My plan is to start low with 300mg of seeds in the way that Minty describes here -

though he takes 500mg.

What I'm wanting to know is; do the felt effects of Syrian Rue extend passed 24 hours? I'm not wanting to feel weird the day after at work and need to be fully alert, so is it best to start experimenting with Rue seeds on say a Friday so I've got 2 full days to ensure I'm as normal as possible or would taking them on a Saturday have me fully back to normal on Sunday after a night's sleep?

What I don't need is to feel nauseous, that's a definite!

I guess I'd also like to know if taking Rue seeds alone one day will extend the DMT trip the day afterwards? Not something I would worry about but I'd like to know in advance.

Thanks

 

[northape]

What I'm wanting to know is; do the felt effects of Syrian Rue extend passed 24 hours? I'm not wanting to feel weird the day after at work and need to be fully alert, so is it best to start experimenting with Rue seeds on say a Friday so I've got 2 full days to ensure I'm as normal as possible or would taking them on a Saturday have me fully back to normal on Sunday after a night's sleep?

I'd give rue three days to clear from your system, but the effects after the visionary part is over are very mild and enjoyable. Don't think about it as a drug; it's a plant spirit. Develop a relationship with it, and rue will show you everything herself. Start slow and be present in your exploration. Rue is one hell of a longevity/fertility potion. Your partner will be very surprised.

What I don't need is to feel nauseous, that's a definite!

Good luck with that, especially in the beginning of your relationship with rue

I guess I'd also like to know if taking Rue seeds alone one day will extend the DMT trip the day afterwards? Not something I would worry about but I'd like to know in advance.

I'd guess it would modify a DMT trip somewhat if it's in a 72-hour window after harmalas. We're all different, and you need to check how your body reacts.

 

[TransistorBass]

So very much a suck it and see scenario then ;-)

Thanks

 

[northape]

Medicine work isn't a free ride. You always pay something. Nausea is a very small price for what you get back

 

[Sakkadelic]

What I'm wanting to know is; do the felt effects of Syrian Rue extend passed 24 hours? I'm not wanting to feel weird the day after at work and need to be fully alert

I personally wouldn't worry much about the next day after a low to moderate dose of rue. But since it's your first time and you don't know how your body will react, it's best to take them Friday or Saturday like you said, a potential night of purging is very tiring.

A low dose of harmalas in the morning before work wasn't helpful for me, I felt light and relaxed and not in the mood for work.

 

[Transform]

This weekend was going to be the start of me experimenting with taking Syrian Rue seeds but I've got a medical thing happening tomorrow and I'll be injected with a dye during a scan so to be safe I'll steer clear of harmalas this weekend.

I can't imagine a radioopaque(?) dye having a significant interaction with harmalas after 24 hours, but it's always best to be on the safe side.

My plan is to start low with 300mg of seeds in the way that Minty describes here -

though he takes 500mg.

Nice video. I think the crucial part for you, which I hope you noticed, is at 4:27:

"If you're new to rue or MAOIs, I'd definitely suggest having a few sessions taking a small amount on its own without any kind of vaping. So, in this way, you can work on the dose until you're happy with it and it feels correct, it's not going to cause you any problems - and you'll know when it's right because, on its own without anything else, MAOI should have little effect apart from making you feel a bit more relaxed and meditative about 45 minutes after dosing - but any kind of nausea, or headache, or dizziness, anything like that, means you've overdone it, so try again in a few days with a bit less."

Getting to know rue by itself is at least as valuable as learning how to vape DMT, albeit in more subtle ways.

What I'm wanting to know is; do the felt effects of Syrian Rue extend passed 24 hours? I'm not wanting to feel weird the day after at work and need to be fully alert, so is it best to start experimenting with Rue seeds on say a Friday so I've got 2 full days to ensure I'm as normal as possible or would taking them on a Saturday have me fully back to normal on Sunday after a night's sleep?

I'd avoid taking too high a dose of rue brew orally too soon before (attempting) sleep - that can be quite disruptive to ones sleep cycle and lead to the expected effects of insufficient sleep. 300mg of seeds taken in the manner detailed in the video, however, are unlikely to have a noticeable impact, especially if taken more than a couple of hours before ones normal bedtime.

What I don't need is to feel nauseous, that's a definite!

You'll probably be OK with the 300mg, but we're all different in various ways. You'll have to take your build and constitution into account, and maybe your diet depending on the former two as well. If you ever choose to work with higher amounts of harmalas in any way, coming to terms with nausea in some way will be almost certainly inevitable.

I guess I'd also like to know if taking Rue seeds alone one day will extend the DMT trip the day afterwards? Not something I would worry about but I'd like to know in advance.

Thanks

The MAOI-induced extending-and-potentiating effect wears off well within 24 hours, but as the others state, it may lend a certain 'colour' of its own to your experiences for a while after that. Again, you'll find out your own personal pharmacokinetic profile through experience alone, but most commonly there's little to be noticed the following day with these non-intoxicating doses besides maybe feeling a little uplifted or better-adjusted.

With my daily use of even smaller amounts of rue seeds and completely atypical personal circumstances, it's probably not up to me to define what the 'day after' might feel like, however. Here, it's always the day…

 

[TransistorBass]

Thanks a lot folks, I appreciate all the info.

 

[TransistorBass]

Bit of a busy weekend again so not enough time to experiment with the Rue seeds.

23rd November 2025, 10.20

Start of Syrian Rue Seeds:
Seed Source - Ebay - Moroccan Harmala Seeds Wild Rue
Dose: 300mg ground seed made into a shot glass worth of Tea on empty stomach, 2 slices of toast afterwards.
11.40 the slightest of stomach sensations wouldn’t qualify as pain, no other noticeable effects.
12.20 arguable but maybe the slightest of mood lifts, very vague pressure feeling in head / behind eyes. Could easily be just what I’d feel like today anyway.

Had light lunch of leftover noodles in a sandwich, a piece of cake and a cookie.
12.20 re-dose with 500mg taken as tea in a shot glass.
13.20 no noticeable effects as yet

Side note: Interesting reading in TIHKAL - https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal13.shtml
https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal14.shtml

14.20 Again slight pressure behind eyes and in head, didn’t last long, thought I’d take a couple of blood pressure readings 1st reading: 131/79 with bpm of 80, 2nd reading: 116/64 with bpm of 71. I always have good readings without chemical enhancement.
16.45 nothing discernible to report. No DMT today, this was a Syrian Rue only day mainly to check if I noted any nausea or discomfort from eating the seeds.

 

[TransistorBass]

6th December 2025

Syrian Rue Seeds:
Today I was going to be trying out a Smok 22 V2 juice vape but I’ve had technical difficulties assembling it due to the bad fitting seals so I’m not going to risk wasting good juice or spice on something I think is going to leak!
So I decided to sack off the DMT for today and the cat really wanted a cuddle which is far more important.
So today’s Harmala seeds so far are….
8.00 on empty stomach 300mg ground seed as shot glass of tea, definite slight mood lift.
12.15 800mg about 20mins before lunch of Fish & Chips, slight fuzzy warm head pressure.
15.00 1200mg before a cup of regular tea and a piece of cake and another cuppa. No discernible effects.

 

[TransistorBass]

13th December 2025

Syrian Rue Seeds:.
8.15 this morning I had 500mg on an empty stomach about 2 hours before my regular Yoga class, 500mg is definitely better than 300mg and I feel it made my Yoga that extra bit relaxed, calm and collected, again a little mood lift. Feeling alert, calm and focused.

Experimenting with PG juice in Geekvape Aegis Legend 3 Kit on factory fit coil, I need to make sure I know what I’m doing and that the Vape doesn’t make me want to cough out what I should be holding in!

 

[blig-blug]

Something that helps me a lot to not cough when vaping is to swallow saliva after getting the hit in, while holding it.

 

[TransistorBass]

Yeah will give a go, I've kinda got to get passed the tickle and hold it. I'm going to try adding a little VG to the PG too so i know what that's like. I probably need a long Drip Tip too, currently practicing on 20watts, when i turn up to 30w things start feeling a bit hot. And at the moment i've got the air-flow almost shut.