STB on MHRB with Ethanol: Need advice on Safety/Purity

[SKA]

A friend of mine recently performed a STB extraction of MHRB
using pure Ethanol as the np-solvent. He showed me the extract
that this extraction has yielded and it was lightbrown, a light
hazle/mocca color. It was a very fine, crystaline powder.
It smelt very much like DMT, but with a very sweet, parfumy scent
mixed through it.

Because he wasn't used to this color he was affraid of smoking it.
I have seen brown/mahogany-red/amber colored DMT before, yielded from
similair STB extractions, the only differences being that Diethyl Ether
was the np-solvent & evaporation was used instead of freeze-precipitation.
It was extremely gooey/waxy, even syrup-like. Wouldn't crystalize much.
At best it would granulate. That being said, that red-amber goo was the
most potent, most psychedelic DMT I ever smoked. Ever since i've been trying
to get back there Too damn bad Diethyl Ether has become so hard to obtain
around here. But i've never seen fine, crystals with such a beige/brown color.

Here are some questions I have regarding this Ethanolic STB extract from MHRB:
-Are these (brown)impurities possibly oils & other alkaloids from MHRB?
-Could this(the beige/mocca color) be an indication that some NaOH and/or dissolved
rubber and/or plastic is present in the extract? (my friend isn't the most mindfull kitchen-chemist; I'm not sure if he avoids bottles with rubber seals or plastics)
-Has anybody here ever tried the same STB extraction of MHRB with Ethanol as my friend
did & smoalked the resulting extract? And....?


I was wondering how safe it was to smoalk this. Hope you people can help me with that.

 

[Enoon]

I'm not sure how this extract was performed? was it a dry extract? because if not ... ethanol and water mix so you don't really have two layers to separate... So how and what did your friend pull?

If it was a dry extract using anhydrous ethanol the end product should contain a lot of plant-coloring, i.e. be dark red/brown, I would guess. If there was any water in the ethanol I would assume that NaOH would have dissolved in it as well and your extract would contain this as a contamination. I would not smoke or ingest it before cleaning it up.

 

[TOXSIN]

I would tell him to just take whatever he has rewash and xtal with naphtha. Its always worked great with white xtals!

 

[Kash]

Ya it would help to explain the exact procedure more otherwise there isnt much to say. Like Enoon said water and ethanol are miscible so if your friend simply evaporated the water ethanol layer you have mostly lye + some dmt, definitly not something to smoke.

 

[TOXSIN]

Ya it would help to explain the exact procedure more otherwise there isnt much to say. Like Enoon said water and ethanol are miscible so if your friend simply evaporated the water ethanol layer you have mostly lye + some dmt, definitly not something to smoke.

Nor should he eat it! lol figured I'd add that.

 

[SKA]

I spoke my friend again and he failed to mention that indeed, like Enoon said, there was no separation of layers.
Appearantly from what he told me it seems he just siphoned off the entire liquid portion, just leaving MHRB mud
behind. Incredibly messy. He wasn't too clear about it since he was too busy to talk for a long time about it.

But if he did what I fear he did, that extract is full of amazing amounts of Lye. Possibly close to 100% of the Lye
that was used in that extraction ended up in the extract. He is even more mindless than I innitially thought. -_-

And about the dryness: Yeah; The extract was amazingly dry and crystaline. No trace of any fats or liquids.
And yes, near 100% ethanol was used.(98% I think)



So would the following procedure purify this extract enough to render it safe & effective?

-Dissolve dirty extract in room temperature Naphtha.
-Poor this mixture through a fine meshed filter: Keep Naphtha, discard the solids left in the filter.
-Put this Naptha in the freezer, wait for spice crystals to precipitate out & collect them.

 

[TOXSIN]

Tell him to basically just throw his extract back into some water which I believe should allow it to dissolve maybe try warm water, or like simmering water but add the powder to the water not the other way around he doesn't want a splash back of lye product, let it all dissolve again, as said once done, add naphtha to the mix. Shake. Let layers separate then, take a glass/metal turkey baster and pull off the top layer only. He may want to be careful doing this I dunno how easy the layers will be to differentiate this way as when done right, you have the nasty brown mimosa lye water layer, and then a yellow naphtha layer easily identifiable and separable, but with plain water and lye/freebase dmt, who knows how easy the layers will be to see.

He may need to acid wash the stuff then rebasify though, this I'm not sure of. I believe my thought would work without re-basification though.

 

[SKA]

I'm familiar with the aubergine/brown/black layer of MHRB/Lye/Water & the urine yellow
layer of Naphtha (or Diethyl Ether) in a succesfull STB of MHRB.

I will tell my friend to put his extract into some water as that would redissolve the impurities, but not the DMT.
And then tell him to add a layer of Naphtha, mix gently & wait for layers to separate.
And if the water Botom-layer is too hard to differentiate from the Naphtha Top-layer, perhaps add some foodcoloring to the mix that dissolves in water, but not in Naphtha
& is a color distinctly different from the Urine-yellow color
that the Naphtha top-layer will have after mixing & letting it settle.
Then the layers will be easy to tell apart.


I guess if my friend were to toss in a little MHRB powder into the Lye-contaminated extract & poured that powderous mixture into some water, that aquaous mixture would probably assume
the familiar aubergine/brown/black color. And allthough this aquaous mix is mostly water &
therefor mostly transparent, the discoloring should be enough to make the 2 layers easy to destinguish from one another. Just a tea-spoon of MHRB would probably suffice to make the 2 layers easy to tell apart. However I'm not sure if my friend still has any MHRB laying around to do that with.

Many thanks for all the helpfull, valuable advice.