Stepping foot into my multiverse

[Zekparsh]

First of all I would like to introduce myself to everyone on this site. I have spent a lot of time in the past months browsing this website and gaining knowledge to further understand the substance that is DMT. Even with all this information nothing could prepare me for the confusion that was my first few true DMT experiences.

It began on a day like any other, I woke up took a shower and prepared for class(I go to a university). After class was over I decided it would be a good time to try DMT for the first time. So I called up my good friend whom I felt extremely comfortable with doing any type of hallucinogenic substance and drove over to his house.

It first started out terribly, I attempted to us the classic Vapor Genie method but everytime I tried to do it I got barely any vapor and never felt anything. Disheartened I decided to try the simple sandwiching method. Tried it twice(by this I mean 2 bowl) and this time I actually started feeling the comings of a breakthrough but still no BOOM. A little break from the story to give a little background amount myself and how tripping effects me now. Shortly after a giant hallucinogenic drug binge I lost most of my ability to create visuals, this isn't a dosage thing really because even off 3.5 grams of dried shrooms I had light to no visuals while my friends who took a lower amount of the same batch were staring at intense visuals dancing on the wall. My use of DMT today was to try and see if I can even procure visuals from one of the most visual inducing substances.

Sadly even with a dosage sandwiched that should send me to breakthrough territory I was not able to get even a slight visual besides everything appearing more sharp. Now it was here that I thought maybe I wasn't smoking DMT but my friend then attempted it and broke through on his first try. At this point I started getting extremely annoyed with myself, I decided to take a small break and try again an hour later.

An hour later I'm sitting outside with my friend with a fresh bowl of DMT packed and I tell him to please be quiet for the entire duration because up until then he kept making loud noises and interrupting me mid smoke which pretty much stopped my trip causing me to become extremely irritable which was not helping my trip either. I took a deep calming breath and settled myself and sparked up the bowl, after taking at least 6 good rips(I packed too much herb on top so I had to burn through a little before I could taste the DMT) I laid back and something EXTREMELY peculiar happened. Instead of closing my eyes like all the stories say happens I kept my eyes wide open and felt a creepy alien presence crawl into my body. All I could do once this entity of sorts entered my body was sit still, it then felt like something else was sharing my body with me and seeing through my eyes feeling just as astonished as I was. I say he was feeling that way because I could literally feel what he was feeling, both physically and mentally, I had an intense wave of fear wash through me due to him becoming frantic inside of me. Then just like that this weird feeling just started to crawl back out of me and I was alone in my body again. I stood up, stared at my friend, said I'm done for tonight and laid down trying to understand what just happened.

For the first time in a LONG time I felt the fear of the unknown due to a substance I took.
I had one more DMT "breakthrough"(I put the quotations because I seriously have no idea what to label that first experience) after that and I actually was able to close my eyes and see crossing tessellated patterns which wasn't what I was expecting from DMT visually but in the audio sense it sounded like and entire symphony was playing a song with a chorus singing "Go to sleep and awaken" over and over again. The second trip was a lot easier for me and even to this day the first experience I had still confuses me. I await my next encounter with the strange substance to see where it takes me next.

Thanks to those you read through all of this and I hope to become a part of this very unique community one day.

 

[Enoon]

Welcome to the DMT nexus Zekparsh.

I would say that you had a medium dose experience but definitely not a break-through, since you were still aware of your body and self. If you got closed eye visuals but no open eye visuals it's more on the lower end of the medium dose.

Having your friend try the same method and him breaking through doesn't really say anything about the dose you really inhaled. A lot of people have trouble smoking dmt especially in the beginning or after particularly hard experiences. Even though someone may seem to be doing everything correctly sometimes it just doesn't work because you didn't hold the flame close enough or you hesitated in the critical moment to inhale or whatever. I'm saying this to let you know that probably you will be able to produce visuals from DMT once you get the right dose administered effectively.

I don't know about the visuals on mushrooms. For some people they are less visuals as for others, so there could be something to it. But this can be a phase you are going through, and not something permanent. Do you get other effects from the psychedelics you still take - like the cognitive changes, the changes in thought-patterns etc. ? Also 3.5 g is not a huge dose of mushrooms. I often have had the feeling that I needed more than others to get visuals and 3.5g for me with some strains was just where it started. If the other effects were also not very pronounced perhaps it's just that you have higher tollerance to mushrooms?

I'd say don't worry about it. take a break from psychedelics a while to reduce tollerance and then try again. This might also help in a more general sense as sometimes a break can help us feel the novelty of the psychedelic experience rather than feel it as something normal.

happy traveling!

 

[Zekparsh]

Thank you for the reply. The 3.5g story was just an example, I've taken multiple month breaks and tried a larger dose of LSD and still got very weak visuals but my headspace felt like that of a large LSD trip. While 3.5 g's is not that large of a dose it is usually a good enough dose for most people to get some wild visuals and if not that then just decent visuals. I literally got no visuals except for some sharpened sight. This visual issue has been a thing for almost half a year now and within that half a year I've only tripped maybe 4 or 5 time with all the doses being around the heavy dosage except for the shrooms which were just a normal dose. I had a giant binge once like I said but I learned how to pace myself and allow my brain to recoup so I normally take 1 month+ breaks between trips now and even with those breaks the visual intensity never changes from anything passed a ++ but my headspace can easily ascend to the ++++ zone, even closes eyed a barely get visuals. It's a strange thing but I have met a few people who are in the same situation, they can take year beaks but still get light visuals on intense amounts. It doesn't bother me but it still is weird.

 

[thieves]

Nice intro. I'm with Enoon in sorts. With a substance such as dmt I feel its almost impossible not to get visuals if smoked correctly and dosed correctly. I also had to take larger amounts of shrooms in the past than 3-3.5 grams to get only mild visuals.
1) do you have a proper scale to weigh a GOOD dose (30mg should start you off nicely..)
2) Did you or your friend extract this spice your self or did someone else do it and you got it from them?
- if you guys got it from someone else, you can never be sure of the quality and such I guess.
- only really trust your own spice to be good.

3) What methods did you try? I'm not familiar with the "vapor genie" method as all Ive done is the glass pipe and used a bong. Maybe you should check the wiki or search for better ways to ingest it that work for you.

It's important to realize that dmt needs to be vaporized, which means you need to turn it from a solid into a liquid, into a gas. I saw you mentioned the "sandwhich" method. I've had good success with that. Only using a very small amount of bud in the bottom of a bowl, the amount of dmt i wanted ontop of that layer, spread out over the bud, then another thin layer of bud on top of that.

Instead of hitting it like a normal bong rip. Lighting it and inhaling instantly while burning the bud. I found one of the better methods is to hold the flame very close to the bud, but NOT inhaling on your bong while doing this, and not exactly touching the bud (if you touch the top layer of the bud with the flame, just make sure you AREN'T inhaling yet)
Having just the heat basically touching the top layer but not burning anything yet. This will melt the dmt crystals into the bottom layer of weed in your bowl.. I did this for a few seconds, took a breath. Let the melted dmt infuse somewhat with the bottom layer of bud. Then took ONE rip and I was out.
My $.02

 

[Zekparsh]

Nice intro. I'm with Enoon in sorts. With a substance such as dmt I feel its almost impossible not to get visuals if smoked correctly and dosed correctly. I also had to take larger amounts of shrooms in the past than 3-3.5 grams to get only mild visuals.
1) do you have a proper scale to weigh a GOOD dose (30mg should start you off nicely..)
2) Did you or your friend extract this spice your self or did someone else do it and you got it from them?
- if you guys got it from someone else, you can never be sure of the quality and such I guess.
- only really trust your own spice to be good.

3) What methods did you try? I'm not familiar with the "vapor genie" method as all Ive done is the glass pipe and used a bong. Maybe you should check the wiki or search for better ways to ingest it that work for you.

It's important to realize that dmt needs to be vaporized, which means you need to turn it from a solid into a liquid, into a gas. I saw you mentioned the "sandwhich" method. I've had good success with that. Only using a very small amount of bud in the bottom of a bowl, the amount of dmt i wanted ontop of that layer, spread out over the bud, then another thin layer of bud on top of that.

Instead of hitting it like a normal bong rip. Lighting it and inhaling instantly while burning the bud. I found one of the better methods is to hold the flame very close to the bud, but NOT inhaling on your bong while doing this, and not exactly touching the bud (if you touch the top layer of the bud with the flame, just make sure you AREN'T inhaling yet)
Having just the heat basically touching the top layer but not burning anything yet. This will melt the dmt crystals into the bottom layer of weed in your bowl.. I did this for a few seconds, took a breath. Let the melted dmt infuse somewhat with the bottom layer of bud. Then took ONE rip and I was out.
My $.02

Yeah, really the failure to fully breakthrough was that I was just incorrectly smoking it. I pretty wasted most of my DMT trying different ways to smoke it before I tried the sandwich method which actually had some effect. I'm trying again tomorrow and I will definitely try the method you just described, I always just inhaled and never thought to just heat it for a little to melt the DMT. The source I got it from was very reliable but it wasn't me extracting it, but I am sure on the purity of the DMT.

 

[Michal_R]

...really the failure to fully breakthrough was that I was just incorrectly smoking it....

I see... and I understand. It had taken me a couple of attempts to get the method right....

...I pretty wasted most of my DMT trying different ways to smoke it... The source I got it from was very reliable but it wasn't me extracting it, but I am sure on the purity of the DMT.

No problem. (Read: next time, you can try to extract yourself.)
Welcome.

 

[Zekparsh]

...really the failure to fully breakthrough was that I was just incorrectly smoking it....

I see... and I understand. It had taken me a couple of attempts to get the method right....

...I pretty wasted most of my DMT trying different ways to smoke it... The source I got it from was very reliable but it wasn't me extracting it, but I am sure on the purity of the DMT.

No problem. (Read: next time, you can try to extract yourself.)
Welcome.

Yeah I know about extraction n' such but the time in which I got the DMT was during the start of the MHRB busts so I didn't feel safe buying a large amount of MHRB online even though I was planning on extracting it from the beginning. Then an opportunity came up to just by the already extracted crystal for a good price and I decided to do that instead, laziness also plays a factor in this decision.