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still no beakthrough, i need to relax more but how ?

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I have a great respect for spirit molecule. I have smoked it many times. Started with 20mg and went up to 50 mg. It was the biggest dosage i took so far and that one was also quite frightening. My problem is to let go. I had mostly great experience and nice feelings except that one when i smoked 50mg. I always feel like i have to control my breathing and won’t let go. The problem is that when i am completely out and can’t control anything anymore the only thing i know about is my breathing always in and out and everything is reacting according to it. Expansion and contraction. I feel that maybe the trick is to let go of breathing and let go but what if i do and the same happens to my body? That’s the question. Has anybody had this kind of experience and if yes did you overcome this AND HOW? Is it my own breathing i feel or is it my ego not wanting to let go? i thing that last time i got scared was because i thought i died and i guess i freaked out . i thought i was not going to come back but i don’t know this exactly cos i don’t remember it . if anyone og you had a similar experience could you share it with me ?
 
Set, setting and smoking technique seem to be a surefire key given you have the proper dose.

Maybe you've tried this, but some slow deep breathing for 5 mins beforehand makes a big difference. Clear your mind of your personal stresses as much as you can beforehand.

I know more than 4 people personally who've burned through several hundred mg of DMT each at 50mg doses with no breakthrough. Research the best technique for your smoking device. For a gvg, the #1 error for all four said individuals was they werent inhaling slow enough and not applying enough heat even with a torch lighter. One very sloooow loong giant hit, hold, and exhaling right at the brink worked everytime 40-50mg. There was little time to think about breathing.

I think 40-50 is well more than enough for most people, but the beauty of it is there's not as much latency to sit there and vibrate in confusion... but, before increasing the dose past 50 mg, I would focus on setting, psyche, relaxation and smoking means/technique first
 
I had the same thing my first couple times smoking, I was hyper aware of my breathing, and felt that it may stop if i didn't keep part of me concentrating on it.
After a couple attempts i became more comfortable with the sensation, i could feel that my breathing was still consistent and deep and i found it a lot easier to let go.

I really can't offer any advice other than to just let go, once you shoot off into hyperspace your lungs will carry on working, and you will come back :)
 
i am using the machine and i have used it many times so i believe that the technique is right. well i always get lots of nice milky smoke. what is do is i inhale very slowly and always get it all in my langs in one go. by the time i am finished there is no way i can get another hit. it goes on me so fast thet i have to put the machine and lighter down otherwise i would probably just ended up burning my self. it really comes so fast. i read that some people have time to get more big hits. i do not know how that is possible. some people say they have like 60 sec before it all starts. for me its probably around 30 sec that all i get . maybe i could try to start with very fast hit first folowed by loong one. but i dont think that would really make any diference do you ? i mean if you can get it all in at once why do more ?

i will try that breathing techique for 5 minits before i smoke. i want to try 50mg next time hope its not too much.
 
i also find it hard to see how people can take more than one toke, by the time ive held it in long enough to feel its time to breath out so im not wasting any im already unable to focus on the pipe an stuff properly, let alone even think about another rip from it. an thats only from like 20-25mg taken in one hit.
breathing is defo also wots mainly on my mind, at first it was really easy to relax an let my breathing go as soon i said to myself to let go it happened instantly, but now i find it harder to keep my breathing slow an often find it will start slow an end up getting faster then my thoughts end up being focused on slowing my breathing down to relax more by the time ive done that all CEV's have gone. im sure its cos i need a lil more to take my focus away from my breathing as my first trip was a bit bigger than wot ive been doing an it was the best trip yet. i just need a lil more in me pipe i think, like i did on me first go. i dunno why i get sop cautious from it now tho, the first trip i did was only sub breakthrough but it was the most amazing feeling ive ever had, bit annoying really as it now seems im trying to chase that same trip, which even i know is not gonna repeat itself anytime soon.
hope you get it sorted bud.
 
You can use your breathing to help enhance the experience - I've had it before where I've felt like my breathing isn't under control, and have had a slight panic set in. In that situation, all I've found that I've needed to do is concentrate on taking long slow and deep breaths in and out, which helps me to get into a meditative state, calms my nerves and allows me to enjoy the trip! It often seems to enhance the visuals! Last time I did this, I ended up seeing a belly-dancer dancing in the most elegant fashion, made out of blue and gold light, and inside her stomach was another belly-dancer, dancing in a similar fashion!

Of course, normally in a breakthrough you don't even have the chance to think about your breathing!
 
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