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Strait FASA tek, need advice

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Pixar

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Hello everybody! I have this idea based on these two links : The FASA Method: A Summary - DMT Fumarate and Beyond - FASA/FASI/FASW - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus


Basically, instead of doing an a/b or a stb tek with acrb I was thinking of doing a "ST-FASA ?(lol)?" Tek.

Let me briefly sum up what is said in the two above links :
1) solution 1: add anhydrous citric acid to anhydrous acetone (5g citric acid/100ml acetone)
2) solution 2 : saturate anhydrous acetone with anhydrous fumaric acid (~20mg fumaric acid/1ml acetone)
3) let solution 2 sit until fumaric acid is completely dissolved (~1day)
4) solution 3 : place powdered acrb in solution 1 and let it sit in a hot bath for 3 hours stirring peridiocally
5) decant solution 3, seperating the plant material from the liquid
6) repeat step 4 & 5 at least three times, adding the filtered material together
7) slowly add solution 2 to solution 3 until no more reaction occurs.
8) decant,rince with acetone and let dry the precipitate,

I suggest you read both links if you don't understand how this will extract the dmt

Heres where I need your advice :
Is 5g citric acid / 100ml acetone optimal?
How much of the citric acid/acetone solution should be added to the acrb powder per g (Solution ml/ g acrb) ?
Theoretically, this would yield good amounts of dmt and would not discriminate any alkaloids, if you have done this tek what were your results. I.e alkaloids extracted(g)/acrb(g)?


Why not use a/b or stb tek's? :
Materials used are more eco-friendly and pose less safety concerns (no NaOH or fumes)
Less steps to get dmt-fumarate (if that's what you want)
Less space needed
Less attention needed
Cost less (for me at least)

Swim will do this tek and post results here sooner or later.
 
Your missing a freebase step. Use citric/acetone or FASA to de fat. Base with something allow bark to dry and then use clean acetone to pull spice.

You could also try freebasing the bark pulling with acetone and then using FASA to precipitate alkaloids. Spice may get caught up with tannins and other bits.

Could try both ways round with 20 grams of bark in each and see what works. Just don't throw anything away till you get to the end as you can just dry and STB the leftovers.

BTW I would be dubious about acetone in a hot bath for 3 hours without proper cautions being used. Read all relevant MSDS for any chemicals you are planning on using (including reaction vessels) you don't wanna go boom and the info is only a google away.
 
Thanks for the reply :)

But swims not going to be doing a freebase step, just convert dmt-tannates to dmt-citrates (which is perfectly soluble in acetone) to dmt-fumarates (which is completely un-soluble in acetone)...
 
Ah my bad.

Makes sense exploiting the solubility of different salts :-) I did not read the links and assumed you had misunderstood a more standard process.
 
Msds key words makes searching for safety info much easier!

Thanks!
 
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