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Sublingual 5-meo-dmt + other substance= ???

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imPsimon

imPsimon

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So I've been starting to get excited about sublingual 5-meo-dmt (fumarate) from reading around a bit.
Something I miss with mushrooms and others alike is the LSD feel that
everything is new.
Supposedly you'll get this feeling from 5-meo-dmt to so I wonder what happens if
I would mix some 5-meo with say some mushrooms like substance?

The plain 5-meo experience seems nice on it's own of course but it
feels like it could be nice to mix this "feeling" with other substances as well.

Anyone tried?
 
I've not tried it myself.

Sounds like a good mix though.....I wonder what kind of effect my chaliponga fumarates might have if I took a little bit sublingually?

I'm interested to hear about it when and if you do try it.
 
rOm said:
Chaliponga fumarates ? Did you extract 5MeO from chali ?
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Possibly. I've not tried them yet, in any way.

I did however freebase some and infuse it into some blue lily petals...the spice was golden yellow, btw.

I gave this Yage Oco Blue Lily to some friends, along with also some 11x caapi changa (white, crystalline spice from mhrb) and some Electric Sheep (amber-color, full-spec spice from mhrb)..........and they tried them all within one night....The first one they tried was the Yage Oco Lily....then the Caapi Changa, then the Electric Sheep.

I asked them about the differences between them all and specifically, if there something different or special...a little something "extra" to the first one, the Yage Lily.....and they both agreed that there was something a little extra to the first one.

So, that's about as far as I know as to there possibly being 5-MeO in my chaliponga fumarates. Maybe there's some in there. Maybe just a little. Maybe they felt a little something "extra" because it was the first one...the first go. But from their expressions and description, there seem to be something in there, even if only a little.

The general process used for the extraction was: basify with lime (allowed to sit/react for 24 hours); pull with limo; salt with fumaric-acid saturated water.....some slight emulsions in the separatory funnel when salting due to shaking, but nothing that some swirling couldn't break up.

Sorry for breaking your thread off track imPsimon.....Back on now.
 
Interesting Dimitrius thx. There is chance d-limo or xylene is pulling all alcaloids from chaliponga leaves.
I'll need to try that one out.
 
rOm said:
Interesting Dimitrius thx. There is chance d-limo or xylene is pulling all alcaloids from chaliponga leaves.
I'll need to try that one out.
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SWIM has extracted chaliponga with both xylene and limonene (as binary solvent) and he has never found any 5-meo-dmt in it. Even the experience of the freebased alkaloids feels just dmt.

The only person who claims to have extracted 5meo is 69ron and this is only with DCM as the NP solvent and as sodium carbonate as the base and ONLY from chaliponga. I could go on re these speculations (these include the LSD-like effects) forever, but truth is, such claims must be taken with a grain of salt.

Actually I would like to hear more on people being successful at extracting 5meo from plant sources. It is something that quite a few have tried and failed. Note that the 5-meo content of chaliponga is under dispute. There seems to be something else in chaliponga that gives different experience but whether it is 5meo we really do not know and have not solid evidence about.
 
Hi there,

yep, I've tried out 5-meo dmt+shrooms.

was 3 gr cubensis, just when the peak was about to finish I took my 10 mg 5-meo freebase ready to snuff. I was pretty excited, and I had good reasons for.
The experience was bless, no bad, or fear, or nothing at all, I just was watching the sun and feeling my consciusness expanding and becoming the sun, pure light. I was in a forest.

Also, I've tried out 5-meo + DMT. 5-meo snorted while dmt smoked out of a VG. 5-meo was in hcl form, I didn't weighted it well, so I only got a medium effect (I like boosting effects from it), not healing or usefull, in anyway, can't tell why. So, just little after the first 5 minutes rush, I took my pre loaded vg, with 50 mg spice in enhanced peppermint (ratio 1:1), and took a looong breath. A breaktrough experience, but I was more aware of my body, and was like taken in hyperspace with more parts of me... difficoult to say, but is like DMT only takes a part of me There, while this combo has taken the whole piece and shoot me. Pretty interesting.

In both cases, feeling very good and powerful the days later.


Hope this can help someone.

edit: sorry for mistake, I've not taken it sublingual, just snorted. Wrong topic, I guess:oops:
 
I've used 5-MeO-DMT in ayahuasca (in the form of chaliponga) toghether with psychotria viridis that contains DMT. In that form they do seem to complement eachother very well. So DMT and 5-MeO-DMT could be combined very well, but the character of your DMT-flight is altered to a great extent. I would say your visuals become less colourfull, but the visual distortion is greater than with DMT alone.
The combination is totally shocking and way beyond LSD in every way.

But as said here: whether chaliponga contains 5-MeO-DMT or another mysterious compound that has effects that seem to match 5-MeO-DMT descriptions is not known. I've never bought pure 5-MeO-DMT from RC-vendors so i'm just speculating that it was 5-MeO-* that gave these effects.
 
arimane said:
edit: sorry for mistake, I've not taken it sublingual, just snorted. Wrong topic, I guess:oops:
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Well sublingual works the same way as intra-nasal, as it is a mucuous membrane absorbtion.
So your information is useful.
However, I tried it intra-nasalyy and it taste very hard chemical. Did you notice this with 5MeO-DMT HCL ?

That's prolly why I went the oral way.
 
However, I tried it intra-nasalyy and it taste very hard chemical. Did you notice this with 5MeO-DMT HCL ?
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I find 5-MeO HCl to be much worst on my nose, whyle freebase has a pretty acceptable pain rank. Also, but maybe it's just me, more nausea came out from salt.

I like freebase the best, except for smoking.
 
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