PhoenixReborn
Rising Star
My intent was to just get my feet wet and to find a comfort zone by starting out with a few small doses. My metabolism is very high and something in my body chemistry has prevented me from ever having the same effects that my friends would have, whenever we did drugs or alcohol, in my youth. I should mention that I am a 50 year old male, 180 pounds and in excellent physical shape as a result of doing P90X everyday for the past 4 years. I always considered myself very strong willed with a strong foundation of Christianity and quantum physics. My intent was to also discount that this was neither heaven nor hell nor some place that the "YOU" part of you, goes to when you die. I had a curiousity that this may very well be another dimension that exists that somehow has to be there in order to make this dimension work properly and to contain this dimension. Similar to the way that you would need 3 dimensional space in order for 2 dimensional things to exist. Ok enough of that.
I have about a month of detailed personal research I had done to absorb as much information as possible, that I could about DMT experiences. My 28 year old daughter had done quite a bit of reading on the subject as well and was also very interested in experimenting with it. So I ordered some root bark and some basic lab equipment and extracted some DMT using a straight to base tek. My first batch came out very muddied with other foreign plant material mixed in. Probably more like jungle spice would be equated to but also with alot of DMT. There definately needs to be more tek about how to SEPARATE the sticky DMT crystals from the naptha once they are freezer precipitated. That seems to be the most difficult part. The other 6 extractions are sitting in a baking dish and evaporting, which contains very clear final product which, in turn, should produce very pure crystals.
So the day came for the testing of my first batch. My daughter came over and I broke out the "the Machine" and the crystals. I concluded that since a 'break-through' dose was determined to be between 25mg and 50mg, that I would start out with a much smaller dose than that. I used a friend's scale that wasn't very accurate and when I had a pile that was determined to be 50mg, I used this tiny measuring scoop that I have and it measured out to be 3 level scoops.(I have a very accurate scale on the way, for all of you that are going to respond, suggesting that I get one.)
I loaded one scoop(15 to 20mg) into 'the machine' and fired off one big inhale of vapor and held it in for 15 seconds. I began to get that body buzzing sensation that you get, right before you go unconscious. It lasted for a couple seconds and started to fade away almost as quickly as it came. There were no visuals but there was a very good invigoratinig feeling that lasted for a couple minutes afterwards. My daughter didn't plan on doing it that day and was only going to be a sitter and a comforter for me. Since the effects were very minor, she decided that she would also try one scoop and one big inhale of vapor. Her results were almost identical to mine. There was alot left in the device which provided me with another good sized one inhale. Again with similar results. I loaded up another scoop, melted it into the choreboy, let it sit to cool down for a bit and my daughter fired up another big inhale. This time she had gotten a larger amount of vapor which seemed to give her some minor visuals, so I again finished off whatever residual was left in the bowl, which also provided me with the most amount of vapor I had had so far. We both sat and discussed our very minor visuals for the next 5 minutes or so. It was almost as if we were debating whether we had any visuals at all of if we were just 'wishful thinking' some very minors ones. Either way, we were having a great time and enjoying eachother's conversation.
I decided that I was ready to proceed to one smaller step beyond that and hoping that I would be able to have some very nice visuals. Visuals that we didn't kinda maybe have to fabricate. Visuals that were what others describe as the "kaleidoscopic chrysanthemum" or the "picture puzzle pattern door", multi-colored fractals and geometric paterns. That was what I was hoping for. So I loaded the machine with 2 scoops this time and decided that I would take 2 inhales, holding each for 10 to 15 seconds. I felt the buzzing coming on after 10 seconds into the first inhale, so I exhaled that and took in a second breath of vapor and held that in. With my eyes opened, each brick on the brick wall, surrounding my fireplace, began to vibrate. I decided that since I was actually experiencing some open eyed visuals for the first time in my life, that I would close my eyes. Once I closed my eyes, I WAS GONE! I was in another dimension. There was no vortex of multi-colored geometrics shapes that drew me into its center and shot me out the other side. It was just BAM... there I was in another dimension, which I will now TRY to describe.
How do you use 3 dimensional terminology, to try to explain a 5 dimensional space? This is the best that I can offer... It was a 12 foot by 12 foot by 12 foot room and the walls were all pure white energy. Even though I was in the room, it almost felt like there was this one foot thick force-field that was immediately in front of me and kind of shielding me from total immersion into this experience. The shield was see-thru and seemed to be made up of tiny geometrical starbursts of light mathematical equations made of light. I did not look directly at it to get a very good view, but in the center of the room, going from floor to ceiling and maybe 3 feet in diameter, there was this sort of power containing device. For lack of a better way of describing it, it looked like the device on the StarShip Enterprise, in the engine room, the device that houses the dilithium crystals. In front of me there was this table, but how do you even use the word 'table' when there it really isn't a table in the sense of what we understand the word 'table' to represent as 'stuff' in this reality. Anyways, there was this energy-table in front of me and there was something on the table. It was like a non-symetrical hand-blown glass container. Inside of it there was like a plasma ball rotation of all sorts of geometric shapes made of light and geometric mathematical equations made of light. I then felt the presence of this motherly, nuturing entity on the other side of the table and it was about 6 feet away from me and to my left. There was another entity about 6 feet away from me and to my right that I feel was smaller and more adolescent male-like. I cannot tell you what they looked like in any detail because it was almost as if I didn't look directly at them but it was more like just an understanding that they were there and somehow doing and creating all this. It also felt as if they were floating all this geometrical energy stuff in front of me as if to program me with it all. I felt myself move forward and through the shield that was protecting me and took a few steps beyond it and was more 'in the room' and then I went slowly back and behind the protection of the shield again. There were alot of feelings during this and a few other minor things which I can't fully remember nor process, but they were very minor compared to the bulk of what the majority of it was, which is all of what I just typed. I also had a total disconnect from my body, with the exception of breathing. It was like I had this faint memory of a body breathing somewhere in another dimension that I left behind, but I couldn't feel my body breathing nor hear it breathing. I did not expect this break through, although I am now concluding that it wasn't a TOTAL break through, in as much as it was probably just this 'waiting room' that others have seemed to mention. I also recall that I was fully aware of what I had done to get to this place and that somewhere in another reality I had this body sitting on a couch that was waiting for me to retrun and that sitting next to it somewhere was my daughter. So I felt the need to call out to my daughter from this space that I was in, to let her know that I had a broken through and that I was there, wherever THERE was. When I later watch the video of all this, I am still so disconnected and amazed that I see my body there speaking and telling my daughter everything that I was saying to her while I was in this other space. It is still very amusing to me when I watch myself doing this and I chuckle when I see my body speaking to her lol. I still have a total disconnect from that iomage of me in that video. The unnerving part of the break trough was the total disconnect from TIME and not knwoing how long I had been there nor how long I would be there and that it could be eternity before I was allowed to go back to my body. I also had this sense that the whole FEELING of this environment was somehow familiar. Not that the scene I was in was familiar, but that the way I was 'OUT OF MY BODY' while I was there, was what was familiar. Beacuse it was so unexpected and because I was beginning to feel a little uncomfortable about the total lack of CONTROL that I had as to what I was seeing and my lack of ability to interact with it, I decided that I would try to convince my body that I left behind, to breathe a couple deep breaths to help these effects wear off quicker so that I could come back and tell my daughter what I had experienced. Shortly after that, the scene started to fade away as if it was a white energy mist that started from the outer edges of my vision and spiralled towards the center of vision and then fuzzed out. My consciousness was then back in my body and I could finally open my eyes.
What I experienced when I opened my eyes was the subject heading I put for my experience. I didn't see anything unusual, in the sense of anything that wasn't normally a part of that room on a regular basis. It was just in an INTENSELY enhanced high definition 3D perspective. It was almost as if my eyes were 2 feet apart and I was able to see everything with a new-found million layers of 3D perception. I have heard others describe a similar effect but this seemed to be much more intense 3D than I have heard others explain. As the light from the window bounced off the objects in the room, on the edges of everything, it turned into a thin beam of white laser light that shot around the edges of everything in the room, cutting them into such crisp defined 3D reality. My daughter had on a sparkley sequin shirt which was just radiating multiple multi-colored startburst effects of light. I was allowed this amazing perception for about another munute and and half. There was also a feeling that somehow TIME had slowed down which allowed me to be able to take in more things, in the room, in each given second, than I was normally able to. I guess that is the only way to put it, in order to make sense of it. Never the less, it made the entrie experience very WORTHWHILE.
While I was in the research stage of all this, I had read many people's experiences. I had planned on having many of my own trips, to try to better inderstand for myself what it was all about. I had read that some people have terrifying experiences but I wasn't going to let that bother me if it happened. I would just pick myself up from it if it happened to me and move forward, because, afterall, I was just going to be an OBSERVER and nothing is going to actually happen to me that could harm me, in a 3D sense. After having this experience, I am now not certain IF or WHEN I will be doing it again. I am sure I will be able to move forward and experiment more, but it is such a total lack of control that still has me shaken a bit. I know I have to let that go and I am sure it will happen in time. We shall see just how long that is. When I tell friends and family about it, they ask if anything BAD happened. I respond with "NO". Then they ask why it is that I am not willing to do it again very soon. My response to that is this... "Although nothing BAD happen, and it was an amazing experience... but... it was TERRIFYINGLY AMAZING!" I am going to take some time and sit back and process this, as I should, before I move on. The part that holds me back is, if that was just the waiting room, I am not so sure how I would have reacted if the entities actually SPOKE to me or brought me past that room and flew me through hyperspace at warp speed passed many galaxies and showed me more intense things. All in good time I suppose. I just wish there were SMALLER incremental steps to this but I guess it effects each of us differently and I guess my destiny is predisposed to be 'BAM'! Time will tell and best wishes for all of you in your adventures.
P.S. Whatever this experience is, I know one thing for certain, it isn't just some hallucination created by a chemical acting on a certain lobe of your brain that also allows your visual cortex to be stimulated, causing it to create things that are generated from some hidden recesses of your brain. Don't let SCIENCE dilute an actual EXPERIENCE that involves so much more than just visual hallucinations. That's just my '2 cents' on the topic.
I have about a month of detailed personal research I had done to absorb as much information as possible, that I could about DMT experiences. My 28 year old daughter had done quite a bit of reading on the subject as well and was also very interested in experimenting with it. So I ordered some root bark and some basic lab equipment and extracted some DMT using a straight to base tek. My first batch came out very muddied with other foreign plant material mixed in. Probably more like jungle spice would be equated to but also with alot of DMT. There definately needs to be more tek about how to SEPARATE the sticky DMT crystals from the naptha once they are freezer precipitated. That seems to be the most difficult part. The other 6 extractions are sitting in a baking dish and evaporting, which contains very clear final product which, in turn, should produce very pure crystals.
So the day came for the testing of my first batch. My daughter came over and I broke out the "the Machine" and the crystals. I concluded that since a 'break-through' dose was determined to be between 25mg and 50mg, that I would start out with a much smaller dose than that. I used a friend's scale that wasn't very accurate and when I had a pile that was determined to be 50mg, I used this tiny measuring scoop that I have and it measured out to be 3 level scoops.(I have a very accurate scale on the way, for all of you that are going to respond, suggesting that I get one.)
I loaded one scoop(15 to 20mg) into 'the machine' and fired off one big inhale of vapor and held it in for 15 seconds. I began to get that body buzzing sensation that you get, right before you go unconscious. It lasted for a couple seconds and started to fade away almost as quickly as it came. There were no visuals but there was a very good invigoratinig feeling that lasted for a couple minutes afterwards. My daughter didn't plan on doing it that day and was only going to be a sitter and a comforter for me. Since the effects were very minor, she decided that she would also try one scoop and one big inhale of vapor. Her results were almost identical to mine. There was alot left in the device which provided me with another good sized one inhale. Again with similar results. I loaded up another scoop, melted it into the choreboy, let it sit to cool down for a bit and my daughter fired up another big inhale. This time she had gotten a larger amount of vapor which seemed to give her some minor visuals, so I again finished off whatever residual was left in the bowl, which also provided me with the most amount of vapor I had had so far. We both sat and discussed our very minor visuals for the next 5 minutes or so. It was almost as if we were debating whether we had any visuals at all of if we were just 'wishful thinking' some very minors ones. Either way, we were having a great time and enjoying eachother's conversation.
I decided that I was ready to proceed to one smaller step beyond that and hoping that I would be able to have some very nice visuals. Visuals that we didn't kinda maybe have to fabricate. Visuals that were what others describe as the "kaleidoscopic chrysanthemum" or the "picture puzzle pattern door", multi-colored fractals and geometric paterns. That was what I was hoping for. So I loaded the machine with 2 scoops this time and decided that I would take 2 inhales, holding each for 10 to 15 seconds. I felt the buzzing coming on after 10 seconds into the first inhale, so I exhaled that and took in a second breath of vapor and held that in. With my eyes opened, each brick on the brick wall, surrounding my fireplace, began to vibrate. I decided that since I was actually experiencing some open eyed visuals for the first time in my life, that I would close my eyes. Once I closed my eyes, I WAS GONE! I was in another dimension. There was no vortex of multi-colored geometrics shapes that drew me into its center and shot me out the other side. It was just BAM... there I was in another dimension, which I will now TRY to describe.
How do you use 3 dimensional terminology, to try to explain a 5 dimensional space? This is the best that I can offer... It was a 12 foot by 12 foot by 12 foot room and the walls were all pure white energy. Even though I was in the room, it almost felt like there was this one foot thick force-field that was immediately in front of me and kind of shielding me from total immersion into this experience. The shield was see-thru and seemed to be made up of tiny geometrical starbursts of light mathematical equations made of light. I did not look directly at it to get a very good view, but in the center of the room, going from floor to ceiling and maybe 3 feet in diameter, there was this sort of power containing device. For lack of a better way of describing it, it looked like the device on the StarShip Enterprise, in the engine room, the device that houses the dilithium crystals. In front of me there was this table, but how do you even use the word 'table' when there it really isn't a table in the sense of what we understand the word 'table' to represent as 'stuff' in this reality. Anyways, there was this energy-table in front of me and there was something on the table. It was like a non-symetrical hand-blown glass container. Inside of it there was like a plasma ball rotation of all sorts of geometric shapes made of light and geometric mathematical equations made of light. I then felt the presence of this motherly, nuturing entity on the other side of the table and it was about 6 feet away from me and to my left. There was another entity about 6 feet away from me and to my right that I feel was smaller and more adolescent male-like. I cannot tell you what they looked like in any detail because it was almost as if I didn't look directly at them but it was more like just an understanding that they were there and somehow doing and creating all this. It also felt as if they were floating all this geometrical energy stuff in front of me as if to program me with it all. I felt myself move forward and through the shield that was protecting me and took a few steps beyond it and was more 'in the room' and then I went slowly back and behind the protection of the shield again. There were alot of feelings during this and a few other minor things which I can't fully remember nor process, but they were very minor compared to the bulk of what the majority of it was, which is all of what I just typed. I also had a total disconnect from my body, with the exception of breathing. It was like I had this faint memory of a body breathing somewhere in another dimension that I left behind, but I couldn't feel my body breathing nor hear it breathing. I did not expect this break through, although I am now concluding that it wasn't a TOTAL break through, in as much as it was probably just this 'waiting room' that others have seemed to mention. I also recall that I was fully aware of what I had done to get to this place and that somewhere in another reality I had this body sitting on a couch that was waiting for me to retrun and that sitting next to it somewhere was my daughter. So I felt the need to call out to my daughter from this space that I was in, to let her know that I had a broken through and that I was there, wherever THERE was. When I later watch the video of all this, I am still so disconnected and amazed that I see my body there speaking and telling my daughter everything that I was saying to her while I was in this other space. It is still very amusing to me when I watch myself doing this and I chuckle when I see my body speaking to her lol. I still have a total disconnect from that iomage of me in that video. The unnerving part of the break trough was the total disconnect from TIME and not knwoing how long I had been there nor how long I would be there and that it could be eternity before I was allowed to go back to my body. I also had this sense that the whole FEELING of this environment was somehow familiar. Not that the scene I was in was familiar, but that the way I was 'OUT OF MY BODY' while I was there, was what was familiar. Beacuse it was so unexpected and because I was beginning to feel a little uncomfortable about the total lack of CONTROL that I had as to what I was seeing and my lack of ability to interact with it, I decided that I would try to convince my body that I left behind, to breathe a couple deep breaths to help these effects wear off quicker so that I could come back and tell my daughter what I had experienced. Shortly after that, the scene started to fade away as if it was a white energy mist that started from the outer edges of my vision and spiralled towards the center of vision and then fuzzed out. My consciousness was then back in my body and I could finally open my eyes.
What I experienced when I opened my eyes was the subject heading I put for my experience. I didn't see anything unusual, in the sense of anything that wasn't normally a part of that room on a regular basis. It was just in an INTENSELY enhanced high definition 3D perspective. It was almost as if my eyes were 2 feet apart and I was able to see everything with a new-found million layers of 3D perception. I have heard others describe a similar effect but this seemed to be much more intense 3D than I have heard others explain. As the light from the window bounced off the objects in the room, on the edges of everything, it turned into a thin beam of white laser light that shot around the edges of everything in the room, cutting them into such crisp defined 3D reality. My daughter had on a sparkley sequin shirt which was just radiating multiple multi-colored startburst effects of light. I was allowed this amazing perception for about another munute and and half. There was also a feeling that somehow TIME had slowed down which allowed me to be able to take in more things, in the room, in each given second, than I was normally able to. I guess that is the only way to put it, in order to make sense of it. Never the less, it made the entrie experience very WORTHWHILE.
While I was in the research stage of all this, I had read many people's experiences. I had planned on having many of my own trips, to try to better inderstand for myself what it was all about. I had read that some people have terrifying experiences but I wasn't going to let that bother me if it happened. I would just pick myself up from it if it happened to me and move forward, because, afterall, I was just going to be an OBSERVER and nothing is going to actually happen to me that could harm me, in a 3D sense. After having this experience, I am now not certain IF or WHEN I will be doing it again. I am sure I will be able to move forward and experiment more, but it is such a total lack of control that still has me shaken a bit. I know I have to let that go and I am sure it will happen in time. We shall see just how long that is. When I tell friends and family about it, they ask if anything BAD happened. I respond with "NO". Then they ask why it is that I am not willing to do it again very soon. My response to that is this... "Although nothing BAD happen, and it was an amazing experience... but... it was TERRIFYINGLY AMAZING!" I am going to take some time and sit back and process this, as I should, before I move on. The part that holds me back is, if that was just the waiting room, I am not so sure how I would have reacted if the entities actually SPOKE to me or brought me past that room and flew me through hyperspace at warp speed passed many galaxies and showed me more intense things. All in good time I suppose. I just wish there were SMALLER incremental steps to this but I guess it effects each of us differently and I guess my destiny is predisposed to be 'BAM'! Time will tell and best wishes for all of you in your adventures.
P.S. Whatever this experience is, I know one thing for certain, it isn't just some hallucination created by a chemical acting on a certain lobe of your brain that also allows your visual cortex to be stimulated, causing it to create things that are generated from some hidden recesses of your brain. Don't let SCIENCE dilute an actual EXPERIENCE that involves so much more than just visual hallucinations. That's just my '2 cents' on the topic.
Thank you for responding to my post. I periodically have been checking my post throughout the day just to see if anyone would respond to it. I am glad to see that someone actually enjoyed it. I guess that maybe it was too long or that I didn't type anything in the form of a question to ellicit more responses, but it is nice to get some sort of validation. <<< Not complaining!
