Kambogahuascanga
Rising Star
I know it is weird to post this in the Iboga section but alas alternatives have become a must...and I bring this up as a service to lessening the strain on Iboga harvesting.
So Yann Guignon(Iboga Sustainability Project Manager for the Gabonese Government) says that there are 180,000,000 addicts in the world. In my opinion there will soon likely be a breaking point occurring of the 100 monkey syndrome where everyone knows about Iboga. Honestly we might have already reached that tipping point. So here I want to propose alternatives. Now earlier in a thread as of yesterday, to me at least, Jaime posted some thoroughly breaking news...
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I recognize this is no where near conclusive but it certainly has me on the edge of my seat. Now the question becomes which one of us has the gumption to try it? I guess I will eventually but hopefully Jaime can find those treasured papers. But I can say I know a couple of young guys that eat a lot of Kiwis and listen to that Bob Marly album Kaya all day long, that know through and through how to sustainably harvest Uchu Sanango. We also have another contact on the Ayahuasca that loves Chaliponga for a late night snack that could get it without killing the tree.
Roots not stem bark IMO is how it has been done for time millenia but if cats are getting similar results with stem bark then please speak up.
On to the obvious one Ayahuasca ok nuff said Takawasi has proven this as well as this one Santo Daime center in Brazil that uses it in combo with Kambo.
KAMBO KAMBO KAMBO...
OK now it's game time. Not even to get into Giovanni Lattanzi's amazing success with using Kambo in combo with Iboga. But both of us in private communications have reported similar results that the Kambo alone when done to kick the shit out of the addict completely removes withdrawal symptoms. I have yet to find out but I can only infer that even without the Iboga, the Kambo could squash the addictions on it's own.
Kambo is sustainably harvested from what I can gather info about. They never kill the precious frogs and their are so many of them that it is highly unlikely that the same frog would be over harvested. So the best way to treat an addict with Kambo...
3 times in 3 hours. Starting on the left shoulder 5 dots close to the Brachial vein, right shoulder 5 dots close to the vein, and to cap it off 7 dots to the left spiritual side with 7 dots. They will purge everything out everytime and likely look like a frog and sound like a grog for 3-7 days, but it will kill the addiction from my experience. I had wanted to gather more case studies on this but frankly the time is ripe to spread the word...
Kambo for addictions!
The most invasive plant that I know of Kudzu vine, reportedly the roots work extremely well for alcoholics. So what about extra extracting the Kudzu roots and flooding someone on them?
Many other alternatives out there but I wish to hear what y'all have to say...
So Yann Guignon(Iboga Sustainability Project Manager for the Gabonese Government) says that there are 180,000,000 addicts in the world. In my opinion there will soon likely be a breaking point occurring of the 100 monkey syndrome where everyone knows about Iboga. Honestly we might have already reached that tipping point. So here I want to propose alternatives. Now earlier in a thread as of yesterday, to me at least, Jaime posted some thoroughly breaking news...
not too many reports out there about this but there are some and the effects of a sanango diet are said to build up within a day or 2 and some people experience a deep hypnogogic state that can last for days where they experience all kinds of insights into their life etc..it does sound alot like an iboga trip, except with uchu sanango they ingest it in smaller ammounts building up slowly as it can last a long time.
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I have also read of sanango ceremonies where large doses are taken all at once but this is something lacking in information. The head spirit of uchu sanango is said to be an old man with a beard and it apparently is a very powerful medicine that opens the heart chakra.
The whole idea of people basically flooding on this stuff, and bechete in the amazon is interesting.
I recognize this is no where near conclusive but it certainly has me on the edge of my seat. Now the question becomes which one of us has the gumption to try it? I guess I will eventually but hopefully Jaime can find those treasured papers. But I can say I know a couple of young guys that eat a lot of Kiwis and listen to that Bob Marly album Kaya all day long, that know through and through how to sustainably harvest Uchu Sanango. We also have another contact on the Ayahuasca that loves Chaliponga for a late night snack that could get it without killing the tree.
Roots not stem bark IMO is how it has been done for time millenia but if cats are getting similar results with stem bark then please speak up.
On to the obvious one Ayahuasca ok nuff said Takawasi has proven this as well as this one Santo Daime center in Brazil that uses it in combo with Kambo.
KAMBO KAMBO KAMBO...
OK now it's game time. Not even to get into Giovanni Lattanzi's amazing success with using Kambo in combo with Iboga. But both of us in private communications have reported similar results that the Kambo alone when done to kick the shit out of the addict completely removes withdrawal symptoms. I have yet to find out but I can only infer that even without the Iboga, the Kambo could squash the addictions on it's own.
Kambo is sustainably harvested from what I can gather info about. They never kill the precious frogs and their are so many of them that it is highly unlikely that the same frog would be over harvested. So the best way to treat an addict with Kambo...
3 times in 3 hours. Starting on the left shoulder 5 dots close to the Brachial vein, right shoulder 5 dots close to the vein, and to cap it off 7 dots to the left spiritual side with 7 dots. They will purge everything out everytime and likely look like a frog and sound like a grog for 3-7 days, but it will kill the addiction from my experience. I had wanted to gather more case studies on this but frankly the time is ripe to spread the word...
Kambo for addictions!
The most invasive plant that I know of Kudzu vine, reportedly the roots work extremely well for alcoholics. So what about extra extracting the Kudzu roots and flooding someone on them?
Many other alternatives out there but I wish to hear what y'all have to say...