Brewing method:
6 grams(I felt like going higher) of Syrian rue seeds were ground into coarse powder using a hand-crank coffee grinder, then placed into a tea bag. About 125 ml of water was used to boil it for 10 minutes, repeated four times in total. The resulting brews were combined and reduced down to around 70 ml, used low simmer all the time, the end result brew was a orange-reddish color, During the 1st and 3rd boils, vitamin C tablets were added, totaling 439 mg. Before drinking, a small piece of ginger was eaten (heard it could reduce nausea and make vomiting less likely).
Experience:
1:40 AM — Took the first sip of the Syrian rue tea, drank about ¾ of it.
2:30 AM — Almost no noticeable effects, so finished the rest. Then ate a small piece of bread and drank some water mixed with milk.
3:05 AM — Started feeling a bit dizzy (but not like alcohol drunkenness), though it could have been placebo. Arms and legs felt weak and soft. The dizziness/body weakness felt somewhat similar to being sick with a fever. At one point while sitting on the couch, my arms felt very heavy, and I just wanted to close my eyes and sink into the sofa without thinking about anything, BUTNOT LIKE very comfortable, I had to listen to music to stop the boredom
3:30 AM — Nausea became much stronger and I vomited. After vomiting I still felt dizzy and had a mild headache. Then I spent the rest of the time listening to music.
5:00 AM — Ate food.
6:30 AM — Went to sleep. Contrary to what some posts claimed about Syrian rue causing very good sleep, I actually had trouble falling asleep for a long time. Various memories and random thoughts kept surfacing in my mind. After finally falling asleep, I also woke up once during the night.
Conclusion:
Overall the experience was neither pleasant nor enjoyable. The physical sensations were not pleasurable either. There was none of the “euphoria” described in some posts. The five senses were almost completely unchanged. There were no changes in perception, cognition, sense of time, closed-eye visuals, or inner meaning/significance.
I also bought a UV blacklight flashlight. When shining it on the brew, the liquid glowed bright green. When shining the beam vertically into the liquid, from the side of the glass I could not see the beam penetrate the liquid at all. According to
My Syrian rue seeds were bought from mainland China. I asked several sellers and they all claimed the seeds were grown in Xinjiang and were dried raw seeds.
At this point I’d consider the experience a failure. So What Might Have Gone Wrong? should I use a different brewing method? increase the dose amount? and I also made sure not to eat MAOI-interacting foods beforehand. Is it possible my Syrian rue seeds contained little or no harmine, harmaline, and other alkaloids? Or are the Syrian rue seeds grown/sold in mainland China fundamentally different from the Syrian rue described on Wikipedia and this forum?
6 grams(I felt like going higher) of Syrian rue seeds were ground into coarse powder using a hand-crank coffee grinder, then placed into a tea bag. About 125 ml of water was used to boil it for 10 minutes, repeated four times in total. The resulting brews were combined and reduced down to around 70 ml, used low simmer all the time, the end result brew was a orange-reddish color, During the 1st and 3rd boils, vitamin C tablets were added, totaling 439 mg. Before drinking, a small piece of ginger was eaten (heard it could reduce nausea and make vomiting less likely).
Experience:
1:40 AM — Took the first sip of the Syrian rue tea, drank about ¾ of it.
2:30 AM — Almost no noticeable effects, so finished the rest. Then ate a small piece of bread and drank some water mixed with milk.
3:05 AM — Started feeling a bit dizzy (but not like alcohol drunkenness), though it could have been placebo. Arms and legs felt weak and soft. The dizziness/body weakness felt somewhat similar to being sick with a fever. At one point while sitting on the couch, my arms felt very heavy, and I just wanted to close my eyes and sink into the sofa without thinking about anything, BUTNOT LIKE very comfortable, I had to listen to music to stop the boredom
3:30 AM — Nausea became much stronger and I vomited. After vomiting I still felt dizzy and had a mild headache. Then I spent the rest of the time listening to music.
5:00 AM — Ate food.
6:30 AM — Went to sleep. Contrary to what some posts claimed about Syrian rue causing very good sleep, I actually had trouble falling asleep for a long time. Various memories and random thoughts kept surfacing in my mind. After finally falling asleep, I also woke up once during the night.
Conclusion:
Overall the experience was neither pleasant nor enjoyable. The physical sensations were not pleasurable either. There was none of the “euphoria” described in some posts. The five senses were almost completely unchanged. There were no changes in perception, cognition, sense of time, closed-eye visuals, or inner meaning/significance.
I also bought a UV blacklight flashlight. When shining it on the brew, the liquid glowed bright green. When shining the beam vertically into the liquid, from the side of the glass I could not see the beam penetrate the liquid at all. According to
this supposedly indicates a very high alkaloid concentration.Don't worry, the vit C won't harm the harmalas - I use it in the hope that it's going to boost the THH content of the brew. Besides the oxalate thing, excessive acidity can be harder on the stomach and may make it (even) less palatable.
Oh, and try shining a UV light on your brew. This can be helpful in determining whether later brews are worthwhile. I use a kids' "spy pen" light. The beam from the single LED will penetrate the solution to a distance roughly and inversely proportional to the harmala concentration below a certain threshold.
Once the beam gets more than about 5-6 cm through the brew, the harmala concentration has become too low to be worthwhile for anything much other than recycling into the next fresh brew.
My Syrian rue seeds were bought from mainland China. I asked several sellers and they all claimed the seeds were grown in Xinjiang and were dried raw seeds.
At this point I’d consider the experience a failure. So What Might Have Gone Wrong? should I use a different brewing method? increase the dose amount? and I also made sure not to eat MAOI-interacting foods beforehand. Is it possible my Syrian rue seeds contained little or no harmine, harmaline, and other alkaloids? Or are the Syrian rue seeds grown/sold in mainland China fundamentally different from the Syrian rue described on Wikipedia and this forum?
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