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Gateless

Gateless

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I've never been much of a drug user. I can count the number of times I've smoked bud and been drunk on my fingers. From what I've read, DMT is relevant to my path, and this community seems to be on the path with me.

I'm here because I see something wrong with the world. It's something in the way we think and the way we live. We learn to walk, talk, read, and write. Then we're told to sit down, shut up, work, produce offspring, and die. It makes sense to any social scientist. It makes sense to any sane human. I'm not a sane human. I'm a cat, but you wouldn't know that on the Internet.

I have questions, and questions lead to uncertainty. I don't tell people anything, but my questions leave them uncomfortable, offended, or dazed. An Oxford English Dictionary definition of consciousness is "the fact of awareness by the mind of itself and the world." People would rather attach to whatever they're told so they don't have to be conscious. Maybe consciousness is unwelcome for someone with Stockholm Syndrome.

These sane humans fail to explain one thing: Why do people fear awareness of themselves?
 
You're an interesting Cat...Welcome to the Nexus...
With questions of that order you will spark interesting debates...

Put your slippers on and settle in for while and you will be rewarded with like minds and information you never thought you could find...

This truly is a magical place...:)
 
I'm glad you appreciate my curiosity. I found plenty of druggie sites, some mysticism websites, and plenty of superstition. It seems that way with everything that could be considered deep or spiritual. It's rare to find a gem like this.

I really have no idea where I'm going with this, but maybe I'll find the way and appreciate the scenery too.
 
There is probably no finer place in cyberspace to find what you seek..

3 years of info..so delve deep..

Follow the 'necessary' rules/regulations and you can't go wrong...😉
 
Welcome to the nexus, Gateless.

I enjoyed your intro! I'm sure you will find this place full of interesting ideas and people. It's a good question you ask but I feel like, while it's very relevant, it's not the question that will lead to answers. Sometimes I think people are too much aware of themselves in the sense that they only focus on themselves and totally disregard their relationship to the world around them, the big picture, etc. Also, to use a Jungian term, people cary around with them so much shadow - so much subcionscious that affects them and their thoughts in ways they don't understand. And I'm not sure that what keeps them from fixing these things is only fear. I think a big point is that it simply is NEVER discussed in our society at large, in our upbringing etc.

anyway, enjoy the forum and have fun. Hope to see you around!
 
Hello Gateless,

Welcome to the Nexus. I also enjoyed reading your introduction. I resonate with many of your feline feelings and have spent a goodly amount of time contemplating similar things.

I wonder if you might be willing to tell us a bit more about your psychedelic self? Have you tried any entheogens yet? If so, which ones and what did you think. You mention that you are not a user and can count cannabis and alcohol experiences on one hand. Psychedelic?

In my opinion, DMT is a heavy starting place for a psychedelic. I often personally recommend mushrooms first or even salvia as it can produce a heavy, 3D immersive vision, but due to its' dissociative nature I think it can be very confusing to folks. Mushrooms are probably a great starting point. That or LSD. Heavy experiences peaking on these materials can be a bit like coming down from a mid-level dose of DMT in my opinion. It's not the same, but can give one a sense of the territory.

Anyway, lots of things to see here, packed subfora, etc. I look forward to seeing you around this place. Again, a warm welcome to you.
 
I enjoyed your response oon. I find myself looking at issues on the individual level, and I often neglect viewing problems from a societal perspective.

I've never tried a hallucinogen, so my psychedelic self is basically nonexistent at the moment. That's what I've come here to find. Everywhere else I looked, I found a bunch of junkies talking about and craving their next high. I don't crave anything; I see what the world is and what I am in the moment.

I know a lot of humans who are into the drug scene. I don't take their drug advice because they don't know how to responsibly use drugs. They don't know how to responsibly use anything for that matter: money, jobs, school, time, relationships, or friends. I don't put anything into my delicate, feline body without knowing what it does. I'm looking for responsible people to guide me in the right direction, and I think that's what I've found. Thank you for your starting advice, Pandora.

I do consider my transcendental self to be reasonably developed. I've spent a lot of time in deep meditation, and I've journeyed through the mind in unimaginable ways. I've experience things such as unconditional peace, interconnectedness, pure consciousness, incomparable relaxation and bliss, spatial expansion, imagery (independent of the eyes' vision), and things I can't quite describe, like being. I never related these experiences to exogenous chemicals until I heard of DMT.
 
the relationship of these experiences to endogenous or exogenous chemicals so far is not clear. There are some speculations about this especially concerning DMT that by many are taken as fact, but so far there is no evidence whatsoever that supports these speculations. Surely it would be wonderful if we find an easy answer to explain mystical experiences or whatnot, but I think the world as well as the functions of our brains are very much more compex than one simple substance can be responsible for. However, it's interesting to muse about...

Concerning psychedelics - I'm glad you've come here to begin to your journey. I think it's so very important to prepare oneself properly for ones experiences, not only for safety reasons (which are very important) but in order to actually work with the experience - whether it be for the sake of exploration, spirituality or for healing purposes.

With some experiences or substances you might find you can use your will to direct the experience, and with others you are just a passenger. A lot of times it is a combination of both. In my experience much of what you end up experiencing depends on what you take with you e.g. thoughts you are hung up on, ideas that predominate in your mind... What you can learn from this then depends on your ability and willingness to really look, to be honest with yourself, to be critical, to interpret, to have the courage to actually face it, etc.
So called "break through doses" can strip you from just about everything you carry with you. It can be a refreshing and wonderful feeling, a kind of epiphany. But it can also be very scary. sometimes painful. Almost always very interesting.

I personally started exploring psychedelics with LSD and it is to date still my favorite substance because of it's versatility. Also it is the only entheogen I have up until now never had a significantly scary/bad/traumatizing experience. DMT and even mushrooms can be more unpredictable, but I don't think there is a recepie for starting out. Whatever rout you take you will most likely be surprised. After more than ten years of experimenting with psychedelics I still am surprised almost every time I take them.

Just make sure you are safe: physically (location, sitter), physiologicaly (purity of substance), mentally (mind set before the journey should be stable, no predominant problems or worries on your mind). Explore and then integrate / learn / interpret and expand yourself in what ever way you feel is positive.

good luck my friend!
 
I've found that it helps tremendously to look at every single aspect of life and really understand everything there really is to know - knowledge is the key to any of life's questions.

It's important to note that there is ALWAYS something fundamental that you can learn from any topic, even if you may not know it.

When I first learned about the ideas of fitness and nutrition, it completely opened my eyes - particularly with the paleo diet and how the human race has been conned into so many false presumptions i.e. that saturated fat is bad for you.

The financial system is another example - perhaps my most prominent one - which has completely blown my mind. If you can understand finance, you can understand how the world works and functions, not only politically but every single kind of corruption out there. After all, "money makes the world go round". This then branches into so many other things :)

Of course, I'm a naturally curious person, so this works well for me. But the idea is that you can always learn something incredibly important, from anything.

You never know. You might even discover new passions.
 
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