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blizzard311

blizzard311

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Well, SWIM is following noman's and found that it was a little trickier than SWIM anticipated to seperate the layer of naptha off of the MHRB/NAOH mixture. SWIM used a turkey baster/wine jug combo to put the naptha in the jars, put em in the freezer, thought they had crystals the next day, buy when filtered out dizzolved into soft dark clumps looking like "bad crank". SWIM is wondering how long their MHRB/NAOH mixture can stay, IS THERE A SHELF LIFE TO THAT?? SWIM needs a seperatory funnel, needs to find one, needs a little $$ and just a little time.
 
MHRB/NaOH can stay for days/weeks..

but separatory funnel wont help you there, friend... separatory funnel is good for A/B for not for STB, because the sludge at the bottom sticks to the walls, so even if you are able to drain it out and not block the funnel with the MHRB sludge, the naphtha will not come out clean

best to do is to crudely separate the top layer naphtha (even if a little of the bottom liquid comes, no prob) to a tall and thin container... then, with another pippete/baster (or clean the one you just used), you can much more accurately make the separation because being a tall thin container, the layers will be thicker and more distinct.. then in this second part, only separate what you can do accurately, and the last bit of naphtha just pour back into the main container for next pull


Also, better not filter the crystals as you did.. instead, pour out the naphtha (and reuse for next pull), and put the container with the crystals that are stuck to the side upside down, but with some support so it stays at an angle and air can come inside.. Put a fan in front to make big air circulation.. This way any any remaining naphtha will drop out/evaporate, instead of warming up and melting the crystals as it probably happened to you. Then once its totally dry after a few hours you can scrape it out.

and also remember if just very little crystals come out, you should evaporate your naphtha half the amount or more, and stick it back in the freezer again
 
A cheap and efficient way to do this, is with a plastic bottle shown here:SIMPLE STB PICTORIAL, with Step by Step pics. - FAQ - All your basic questions and answers - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus. One with a "nipple top" as opposed to a cap(that twists on and off, makes it easy to close without messes. Make sure its clear, so you can see what you're doing. And as endlessness said,
only separate what you can do accurately, and the last bit of naphtha just pour back into the main container for next pull
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Once you get to your fourth pull, there'll be such a minisquel amount in that little tiny layer yuo can't seperate accuratly, that it wouldn't be worth it.
 
Thanks for the advice, just a few more questions...
When it comes times to scrape out the jars, should the substance be hard and a powder??

Where can SWIM purchase a glass pipette?

What stores are good for getting basic lab equipment?

Is it worth buying the bestine for recrystalization, or can SWIM just use more naptha? SWIDNM seen it at Micheal's craft store the other day if anyone has had trouble finding that...

And last ( for now ) when the recrystalized solution comes out of the freezer, should SWIM be able to use fingers/tweezers to separate crystals from slag??

SWIM would like to apologize for all of the questions, but this is his/her first attempt and is very anxious to join his/her friends in HyperSpace!!!! (':p
 
Depends on the equipment. HDPE2 jugs can be bought from most auto shops, or, clean out a milk jug and use that. Do a search on here and you should find a store that sells it, or, buy it online. Or, if you can't find it, do a google search and find generally what kind of stores they're found at, and go to few different places locally. Trying to help out with what I can so I know the process back and forth. PerPLExEd is going to ask me tons of questions so I must be spot on for him when his shipment arrives.
 
Cool. So SWIM could just use a cleaned out milk jug, and when it comes time to separate layers, gently squeeze jug and use nasal aspirator, that seems easier. SWIM was afraid of using plastics with the solvents and NAOH, afraid of coming home to a disaster. Could SWIY imagine the mess that purple/pink MHRB and NAOH mixture would make?
Anyways, SWIM appreciates the advice and will try it out, the mix SWIM has now is in empty wine bottle, will transport to other vessel tonight.....
SWIM will keep posting on this topic if any other questions come up that SWIM can't find the answer to..
 
blizzard311 said:
Cool. So SWIM could just use a cleaned out milk jug, and when it comes time to separate layers, gently squeeze jug and use nasal aspirator, that seems easier. SWIM was afraid of using plastics with the solvents and NAOH, afraid of coming home to a disaster. Could SWIY imagine the mess that purple/pink MHRB and NAOH mixture would make?
Anyways, SWIM appreciates the advice and will try it out, the mix SWIM has now is in empty wine bottle, will transport to other vessel tonight.....
SWIM will keep posting on this topic if any other questions come up that SWIM can't find the answer to..
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Yes, SWIM can, although I find glass works much better.

Anonym zu www.specialtybottle.com/

It is really cheap from them^.

Also any local brewing supply store for home brewing beer and wine will have the jugs SWIM needs for just a couple dollars. (Your plant material costs way more)

If SWIM finds their product isn't as pure as SWIM would like, also stop by that brewery shop and pick up some fumeric acid. ;)

It's really hard to break a tek beyond repair, just usually a pain if you make some big mistakes. The only really bad thing that can happen is if SWIM's use way too much lye on a tek that calls for it and it eats some of the DMT or if your solution escapes its bottle (ie: not using glass, some solvents will melt nearly any plastic to a liquid, and liquid isn't a good container to hold your liquid in... always test your container before proceeding if unsure.)
 
SWIM just wants to say really quick before SWIM goes to work, SWIM FUCKING LOVES THIS FORUM!!!! The responses to questions that have that anxiousness to them ( first time tekkers apply!! ) have yet to disappoint SWIM. So yeah, thank you SWIM will check that in the near future......
 
acolon_5 said:
For pulling out the naphtha, I have not found ANYTHING that works better than a nasal aspirator, also called an ear bulb.


Seriously, I never use anything but this to pull solvents (expect Toluene, and Xylene). Combined with a milk jug that can be squeezed you can get damn near every drop out without issues VERY quickly.
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i think a pipette is a little more useful and safe. Even though this might work for you^^^^^ a different manufature might make the same thing out of different materials. This could potentially contaminate ur product. Basic lab skills>>> ....you should not get any type of solvent including water inside the rubber bulb.
 
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