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Hi folks !
Interesting thread so far.

After 8 years of changa research and consume i can say that i prefer mixes without harmala, blue lotus and mullein. And even would leave out the caapi this days . Somebody stated before that that is no changa, which just shows the close mindedness of some people. Who defines that kind of things an why should we get blinded by it ?
If you need to give it another name, but do not get trapped in conceptual matters.

It is fairly clear that MAO inhibitors are only necessary if DMT is consumed orally, as the monoaminooxidase in the blood does not breakdown DMT.
Even if the MAO inhibitors in commonly used plants are considered save , there has been cases of people having rather hefty experiences in combination with other substances in their bloodstream.
After 500+ changa experiences i can say that they have detrimental effects on the experience, they seem to create rather dark experiences and not very smooth journeys, plus they leave people tired and dazed, which is ok when you are smoking at night at home, but for social daytime consume its just annoying.
I recommend all of you to try infusing on chamomile , which greatly reduces the unpleasant coming up mentioned in the main post , and experience with plants like ginko biloba , gotu-kola and sinuichi. All of which enhance concentration , allow for a smooth and bright journey, and dont make you tired at all. To the contrary they let you remember better what you experienced and coming up, coming down and the allover experience are just smooth, and do not leave you dazed or half asleep .

What i've learned from the plants over the years is
keep it simple , use max 4-5 plants.
Use plants that have low alkaloid content and have little effect alone.
Smoke joints , and smoke them often , the true lessons we can learn from this plants don't come to you in a 15 minutes brain-wrecking roller-coaster ride , they come from the deepest areas of our mind after regular consume of smaller doses.
I consider high doses like going to a museum and look at fancy art, but regular small doses let your mind really work with the plant, and bring lasting change into your life.

Just my little input .

<blockquote data-quote="Dizzy Druid" data-source="post: 3653396" data-attributes="member: 25023">Hi folks !Interesting thread so far.After 8 years of changa research and consume i can say that i prefer mixes without harmala, blue lotus and mullein. And even would leave out the caapi this days . Somebody stated before that that is no changa, which just shows the close mindedness of some people. Who defines that kind of things an why should we get blinded by it ?If you need to give it another name, but do not get trapped in conceptual matters.It is fairly clear that MAO inhibitors are only necessary if DMT is consumed orally, as the monoaminooxidase in the blood does not breakdown DMT.Even if the MAO inhibitors in commonly used plants are considered save , there has been cases of people having rather hefty experiences in combination with other substances in their bloodstream. After 500+ changa experiences i can say that they have detrimental effects on the experience, they seem to create rather dark experiences and not very smooth journeys, plus they leave people tired and dazed, which is ok when you are smoking at night at home, but for social daytime consume its just annoying. I recommend all of you to try infusing on chamomile , which greatly reduces the unpleasant coming up mentioned in the main post , and experience with plants like ginko biloba , gotu-kola and sinuichi. All of which enhance concentration , allow for a smooth and bright journey, and dont make you tired at all. To the contrary they let you remember better what you experienced and coming up, coming down and the allover experience are just smooth, and do not leave you dazed&nbsp; or half asleep . What i&#039;ve learned from the plants over the years is keep it simple , use max 4-5 plants.Use plants that have low alkaloid content and have little effect alone.Smoke joints , and smoke them often , the true lessons we can learn from this plants don&#039;t come to you in a 15 minutes brain-wrecking roller-coaster ride , they come from the deepest areas of our mind after regular consume of smaller doses.I consider high doses like going to a museum and look at fancy art, but regular small doses let your mind really work with the plant, and bring lasting change into your life. Just my little input .</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dizzy Druid, post: 3653396, member: 25023"] Hi folks ! Interesting thread so far. After 8 years of changa research and consume i can say that i prefer mixes without harmala, blue lotus and mullein. And even would leave out the caapi this days . Somebody stated before that that is no changa, which just shows the close mindedness of some people. Who defines that kind of things an why should we get blinded by it ? If you need to give it another name, but do not get trapped in conceptual matters. It is fairly clear that MAO inhibitors are only necessary if DMT is consumed orally, as the monoaminooxidase in the blood does not breakdown DMT. Even if the MAO inhibitors in commonly used plants are considered save , there has been cases of people having rather hefty experiences in combination with other substances in their bloodstream. After 500+ changa experiences i can say that they have detrimental effects on the experience, they seem to create rather dark experiences and not very smooth journeys, plus they leave people tired and dazed, which is ok when you are smoking at night at home, but for social daytime consume its just annoying. I recommend all of you to try infusing on chamomile , which greatly reduces the unpleasant coming up mentioned in the main post , and experience with plants like ginko biloba , gotu-kola and sinuichi. All of which enhance concentration , allow for a smooth and bright journey, and dont make you tired at all. To the contrary they let you remember better what you experienced and coming up, coming down and the allover experience are just smooth, and do not leave you dazed or half asleep . What i've learned from the plants over the years is keep it simple , use max 4-5 plants. Use plants that have low alkaloid content and have little effect alone. Smoke joints , and smoke them often , the true lessons we can learn from this plants don't come to you in a 15 minutes brain-wrecking roller-coaster ride , they come from the deepest areas of our mind after regular consume of smaller doses. I consider high doses like going to a museum and look at fancy art, but regular small doses let your mind really work with the plant, and bring lasting change into your life. Just my little input . [/QUOTE]