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Embracethevoid... You mentioned "karmic precipitation "...I'm not sure i can define that but,i recommend googling "The Tibetan Yogas of dream and sleep by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche PDF " for the most concise and non-dual definition of Karma i have came across.

It talks in terms of Karmic traces, which i think may be what you meant by precipitation.(starts at about page 25 i think)

For now just remain in a state of acceptance.

Something else that may be apt for your right now...and i'm sure many others too.

"When kundalini has just awakened and you are not able to handle it, it is called Kali.
When you can handle it and are able to use it for beneficial purposes and you become
powerful on account of it, it is called Durga."

The transition from Kali to durga, will bring up a lot of issues in your lower centres. Namely things that have been deeply ingrained in the subconscious and stored in your sacral chakra...desires,cravings,conditioned responses...karmic traces ....

Tying back to the original point of the thread too, the sacral chakra is also tied to the lower astral plane. In order to progress on our paths, we have to transmute the lower energetic centers within us, so they are in balance with the rest of our entire psyche/soul or what ever you want to call it.

(and for people who don't deal with chakras, then simpy the part of your mind that deals with desire and the entire sub-conious mind.

Be at peace with it though. I have found once of the easiest ways to balance things out is to take the fast-train in to your heart centred awareness. As soon as you focus on gratitude, You shift attention to what is already there and what is already 'enough' as apposed to what is lacking,incomplete or 'wrong'. When we can be grateful for the challenges and the problems and obstacles we face, they know longer have power over us and we can begin to manage and assimilate the deeper lessons we are trying to teach ourselves.

But yeah, Check that Tibetan yogas of dream and sleep may shed more light on the karmic thing. (also very relevant to all those interested in the Astral ) Every thought we have has the potential to leave a karmic trace. Karma occurs at the level of thought first and foremost, Prior to any subsequent action. As soon as we recognize we are constantly leaving traces to pick up on in the future and that our current responses are already governed by the traces we have left before, then we can bring more mindfulness to our thoughts and actions and take further strides in to Self-Mastery, Bodhisattva, enlightenment etc

<blockquote data-quote="d-T-r" data-source="post: 3629525" data-attributes="member: 9686">Embracethevoid... You mentioned &quot;karmic precipitation &quot;...I&#039;m not sure i can define that but,i recommend googling &quot;The Tibetan Yogas of dream and sleep by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche&nbsp; PDF &quot; for the most concise and non-dual definition of Karma i have came across.It talks in terms of Karmic traces, which i think may be what you meant by precipitation.(starts at about page 25 i think)For now just remain in a state of acceptance. Something else that may be apt for your right now...and i&#039;m sure many others too.&quot;When kundalini has just awakened and you are not able to handle it, it is called Kali. When you can handle it and are able to use it for beneficial purposes and you become powerful on account of it, it is called Durga.&quot;The transition from Kali to durga, will bring up a lot of issues in your lower centres. Namely things that have been deeply ingrained in the subconscious and stored in your sacral chakra...desires,cravings,conditioned responses...karmic traces ....Tying back to the original point of the thread too, the sacral chakra is also tied to the lower astral plane. In order to progress on our paths, we have to transmute the lower energetic centers within us, so they are in balance with the rest of our entire psyche/soul or what ever you want to call it.<img src="http://www.lucidcrossroads.net/imagesNEW/ASTRALPLANES.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />(and for people who don&#039;t deal with chakras, then simpy the part of your mind that deals with desire and the entire sub-conious mind.Be at peace with it though. I have found once of the easiest ways to balance things out is to take the fast-train in to your heart centred awareness. As soon as you focus on gratitude, You shift attention to what is already there and what is already &#039;enough&#039; as apposed to what is lacking,incomplete or &#039;wrong&#039;. When we can be grateful for the challenges and the problems and obstacles we face, they know longer have power over us and we can begin to manage and assimilate the deeper lessons we are trying to teach ourselves.But yeah, Check that Tibetan yogas of dream and sleep may shed more light on the karmic thing. (also very relevant to all those interested in the Astral ) Every thought we have has the potential to leave a karmic trace. Karma occurs at the level of thought first and foremost, Prior to any subsequent action. As soon as we recognize we are constantly leaving traces to pick up on in the future and that our current responses are already governed by the traces we have left before, then we can bring more mindfulness to our thoughts and actions and take further strides in to Self-Mastery, Bodhisattva, enlightenment etc</blockquote>

[QUOTE="d-T-r, post: 3629525, member: 9686"] Embracethevoid... You mentioned "karmic precipitation "...I'm not sure i can define that but,i recommend googling "The Tibetan Yogas of dream and sleep by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche PDF " for the most concise and non-dual definition of Karma i have came across. It talks in terms of Karmic traces, which i think may be what you meant by precipitation.(starts at about page 25 i think) For now just remain in a state of acceptance. Something else that may be apt for your right now...and i'm sure many others too. "When kundalini has just awakened and you are not able to handle it, it is called Kali. When you can handle it and are able to use it for beneficial purposes and you become powerful on account of it, it is called Durga." The transition from Kali to durga, will bring up a lot of issues in your lower centres. Namely things that have been deeply ingrained in the subconscious and stored in your sacral chakra...desires,cravings,conditioned responses...karmic traces .... Tying back to the original point of the thread too, the sacral chakra is also tied to the lower astral plane. In order to progress on our paths, we have to transmute the lower energetic centers within us, so they are in balance with the rest of our entire psyche/soul or what ever you want to call it. [img]http://www.lucidcrossroads.net/imagesNEW/ASTRALPLANES.gif[/img] (and for people who don't deal with chakras, then simpy the part of your mind that deals with desire and the entire sub-conious mind. Be at peace with it though. I have found once of the easiest ways to balance things out is to take the fast-train in to your heart centred awareness. As soon as you focus on gratitude, You shift attention to what is already there and what is already 'enough' as apposed to what is lacking,incomplete or 'wrong'. When we can be grateful for the challenges and the problems and obstacles we face, they know longer have power over us and we can begin to manage and assimilate the deeper lessons we are trying to teach ourselves. But yeah, Check that Tibetan yogas of dream and sleep may shed more light on the karmic thing. (also very relevant to all those interested in the Astral ) Every thought we have has the potential to leave a karmic trace. Karma occurs at the level of thought first and foremost, Prior to any subsequent action. As soon as we recognize we are constantly leaving traces to pick up on in the future and that our current responses are already governed by the traces we have left before, then we can bring more mindfulness to our thoughts and actions and take further strides in to Self-Mastery, Bodhisattva, enlightenment etc [/QUOTE]