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The Cultivation Way of the Law Wheel

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sgtWow

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The Law Wheel Great Way is an ancient high level cultivation technique which I have posted about in small pieces in this thread:


This practice isn't just your regular Tai Chi or Qi Gong practice to heal up your body and keep it fit. It's a complete spiritual discipline to raise oneself energetically, purge all illnesses, cultivate high energy matter within ones soul and ascend to higher dimensional realms.

Also one will aquire supernatural abilities like opening one's third eye, pre and retrocognition, healing abilities, telekenis and many others. These however are just by products of cultivating in this discipline, not it's main goal and shouldn't be persued with intent.

If anyone is interested in checking it out:


Now, the reason I bring this very powerful practice up is that they talk about many fascinating, unique and confounding things in some of the lectures that have been held around the world.

These talks seem to give even more evidence to the validity of what many DMT psychonauts have experienced while taking small peeks into the multiverse. DMT I feel is a part of the puzzle, a sneak peek so to speak with many real dangers however.

I beleive, the true way to ascend to these realms in a correct, elegant and safe manner is by practicing an Upright cultivation Way, be it the one I posted or some other one, as long as it's a true one.

I'm going to be posting snippets of some of these lectures here in installments but If people want to just check out the whole lot they can be found here:



“Some people say that they’ll go to Heaven after they die. People who haven’t practiced cultivation are, in the words of your Western culture, called “spirits” after they die. These spirits are actually ghosts. Think about it, everyone: What are they? People in the East have a clear and definite concept of human body cultivation: One develops a Buddha-body through cultivation, that is, a divine body. If a person doesn’t have this Buddha-body—in other words, if a person doesn’t have the body of a heavenly paradise’s god—his spirit fears light after coming forth [from his body]. It disintegrates in sunlight, and can’t even reincarnate.

That’s why people are covered with a cloth after they die—it prevents exposure to sunlight—and buried in the earth so that their spirits won’t disintegrate. Buddhas and gods are infinitely brilliant, even brighter than sunlight. Wouldn’t a person’s spirit dissolve were he to see a god? How could it go to Heaven? It thus needs to have the body of a god and, at the same time, change the compositional elements of its intelligent beings through cultivation to make them comprised of high-energy matter.

Only with a Buddha-body or a god-body can it go. Can a spirit come to the human world? No, it can’t. So before it can stay in this world, it needs to have a human body to reincarnate with and needs to be born through the bodies of parents. Some people mistakenly think that they’ll go to Heaven if they just have faith. How could that be? It sounds ridiculous to those of us in cultivation circles. You have to truly practice cultivation before you can go to Heaven.

So in Western religions, in the process of having faith in God, a person’s heart nature and his realm of mind continually elevate, and he becomes a better and better person. Then wouldn’t you say he’s practicing cultivation? Form is unimportant in cultivation; there are all kinds of cultivation methods. It’s a difference in cultivation forms between Western and Eastern religions. Why don’t they mention cultivation in the West, like they do in the East? Both are in fact cultivation. It’s simply that Eastern culture is very specific with regard to this, while Western culture doesn’t talk about these things.

That’s because when gods come down to save people and to impart their Law, they need to adopt a cultural form that’s intelligible to people. Only then can you understand—only [when they] use the human languages of those times can you understand. What I’ve said is also to tell you that practicing ordinary qigong can’t enable people to reach a very high, profound realm. It’s impossible. Only real cultivation can do so.

Qigong is only something at the lowest level in cultivation, so it’s limited to healing illness and maintaining health. Even when it comes to healing illness and maintaining health there are some requirements for people, because after all, it’s a form of cultivation and is different from any kind of medical treatment that exists among everyday people. If you want to learn qigong to heal your illness, you have to meet the requirements of qigong’s principles.

What does it mean to meet the requirements of qigong’s principles? Because it’s beyond the ordinary—if you want to use extraordinary means to treat illness without resorting to medication, shots, or surgery, and be cured, isn’t it supernormal?—human beings have to conform to its principles before their illnesses can be truly healed.

This is the fundamental reason why many people fail to get rid of their health problems even though they practice qigong. Since you want to use this supernormal method to eliminate your illness, you have to conform to the supernormal principles. So you have to follow qigong’s requirements, be a good person, and break your tendency to do bad or immoral things—only then will your illness be truly cured. This is the real reason behind recovery from illness.

This doesn’t apply should you opt for everyday people’s medical treatments. You will then have to undergo surgery, get shots, or take medication in order to recover. Yet there’s a principle in the universe, called, “no loss, no gain.” To gain, you must lose; when you lose, you will gain. This is an absolute truth. Do you know why your illness improves in the hospital? Some people say that it’s healed through the technological means of modern science.

I say that’s just modern people playing out a way, or a form, of manifestation in modern society. The true reason behind your recovery isn’t limited to that. Things have to conform to the principles of the universe in this dimension. You know that when you’re sick you have to spend a lot of money seeing doctors. Of course, some countries have good social welfare programs, and people in those societies have health insurance that can resolve this problem.

But you still suffer—don’t you suffer when you’re sick? You are afflicted when you’re suffering, and suffering is itself a way of paying off karma. In addition, you need to spend money, have injections, take medication, and you might even be cut open in surgery. Haven’t you endured suffering before your condition starts to improve? But let me tell you that this recovery hasn’t corrected the illness at its root: it has pushed the illness karma to somewhere else or postponed it to the future.

This is because the illness doesn’t originate from the outermost surface of an ordinary human’s physical body; rather, it comes from the plane of microscopic particles beneath the body made of the largest molecules. The human body is composed of molecules that have particles at different microscopic planes, and each plane of particles is a dimension. Of course, the dimensions aren’t stacked up together. They are in the form of smaller particles comprising larger particles. Yet the realm of each plane of small particles is a dimension. There are many dimensions like these, and it’s actually there that the causes of many illnesses reside. Illnesses don’t come from the surface. What appears on the surface of a person’s flesh or tissues is only the superficial manifestation of an illness.

After you have surgery, you think that your tumor has been removed. Actually, what’s been removed is the flesh tissue that’s made up of the plane of the largest molecules. It is removed, as its cells are no longer present in this dimension. Yet you can’t remove the more microscopic particles that comprise the cells. But since you no longer see those cells at the body’s surface after they are removed, it appears as if you’re healed. Later on, the illness might transform, and some illnesses might relapse. Since the illness wasn’t truly eliminated, it might move to somewhere else and another tumor might reemerge there. Or maybe it will be transformed into some other illness or some misfortune.

This is the real underlying reason that we’ve observed. When supernormal abilities are used to treat an illness, however, surgery isn’t necessary. Why can a supernormal ability remove a person’s tumor? It’s because it removes the illness from another dimension, a dimension that’s invisible to the human eye. Let’s use a simple illustration. You see that this cloth has a lump protruding up here. Why? It’s because there’s a cause behind it—my hand is behind it. If you take the cloth away but you don’t remove the hand, it will come over to this side. This means that if you don’t resolve the cause behind it, you can’t eliminate the problem at its root. In other words, human medical treatments can’t solve the fundamental problem, for they only resolve problems on the surface and can’t eliminate karma.

In this world, whether a person loses or gains, whether he’s happy, whether he’s totally content with how things are going, whether he has good fortune, and the extent of his misfortune—all of these are determined by two substances carried on his body. One is called virtue (de), and the other, karma (yeli). It’s just these two substances taking effect. We accumulate virtue when we do good things. In the old days people talked about accumulating virtue. People now consider it something conceptual or in the realm of mind. Actually, it’s a type of matter, a truly tangible substance. The karma that people speak about has been clearly explained in Eastern religions.

What is karma? It’s a black substance. A person generates this material when he does wrong. When too much of this thing is accumulated, he will have unpleasant things happen to him, such as getting sick, having misfortune, or going through hard times. I’ve found that everything that happens to humans is the result of what humans themselves have done. In this human world, whether you are happy and whether you are doing well are the result of your own doing. These things often manifest in your present life, while some of these things will manifest in your next life; most of them manifest in the next life. What’s meant by “manifest in the next life”? It means that it won’t occur in this lifetime but will appear in your following lifetime.

The part that manifests in this life is called “retribution in the same life” by cultivation circles in the East. [That is,] after doing something wrong, you will meet with immediate retribution. Some people fall on their face when they step out the door after doing something bad. They don’t see it as retribution for doing wrong, but think it’s coincidental or natural.

I hold that there’s no such thing as “natural phenomena,” as all things are ordered—coincidence doesn’t exist. In this dimension there are many, many things that people aren’t able to see. Of course, modern science knows that there is air, oxygen, hydrogen, and other trace elements that are composed of molecules, but that’s all it knows. Yet your eyes can’t even see those things.

Actually, I can tell you that in this dimension, at the extremely microscopic level, they are—including the enormous, pervasive matter—all gods. They know clearly every move and every action made by humans and the things they’ve done. When people do bad things they always think that nobody can see what they’ve done. They know that what they did was wrong but still try to find a self-deceptive excuse that will allow them to feel justified and at ease. They don’t believe in gods whatsoever. Here’s an offhand example.

It doesn’t involve any matters of religion or race, I’m just talking about people doing wrong. You probably know that a few days ago a certain country conducted nuclear tests, exploding five atomic bombs in succession. Many countries were shocked! That’s because people the world over all long for peace.

What were their atomic explosions for? I’m not invested in any notions. I’m only talking about people doing the wrong thing, I’m not commenting on whether that nation was right or wrong. Let’s think about it. Although the nuclear bombs were detonated underground, gods won’t tolerate the damage they do to the earth, to the human environment, and to the material world that’s composed of different [sized] molecules! When Heaven punishes humans they think it’s a natural phenomenon.

The temperature in that country immediately shot up to the highest in the world. It stayed at over 122°F (50°C), and a lot of people died from the heat. And a windstorm came along later and caused many deaths. People don’t realize these phenomena are the warning of gods: “You cannot do that.” People just take them to be natural phenomena. Nothing that happens in this world is coincidental. Just take a look: If any nation, region, or individual does something bad, some special phenomena will immediately follow. Disasters and everything that befalls humans are the result of their own conduct. Just now I briefly discussed some things at an elementary level.”
 
“The people in this universe are not meant to be human beings, but to practice cultivation to go back and to return to the place where you were created. One may say, "I am in ordinary human society, and I cannot give up the ordinary people's sentimentality. If I practice cultivation, what about my wife, sons, daughters, parents, and brothers? Then, I will be living without meaning." That is your understanding from your human point of view and a thought on the present basis. When you move up to a new basis and after raising your level, you will not think this way. When you are in another realm, you will not think this way.

However, I will tell you a principle. Who are your real relatives? Here I am not interfering with your family relations. In samsara you are human this lifetime and an animal or a plant in the next lifetime. From one life to another, how many parents, wives, sons, daughters, sisters and brothers have you had in each lifetime? In your long journey of life, you are even unable to count them. Also, some are human and some are not human. Which ones are real? It is just that human beings are lost too deeply in the maze! Your real parents are in the place where the universe created you. That is where your parents are.

This is because life has two kinds of origins: one is the life created from the motion of enormous matter; the other is the life with a form that is created from the motion of matter in the universe. In itself, it is like a person who is pregnant, giving birth to a life. For such lives, they will have parents. Therefore, your real parents are right now watching you over there, hoping that you will return; but instead of returning, you get lost here and still feel that your relatives are all here.

For human beings to be human is not the goal. The goal is to return to your original true self. Once a person has this thought of cultivating Buddhahood, though he does not have the opportunity of cultivation, still, he has seeded the benevolent fruit of cultivating Buddhahood. Why is it said this way? It is that for him to have this thought is just too precious! For a person in an environment as bitter as this and in an environment as confusing as this, he still has the heart to go back and the heart to cultivate Buddhahood and to be kind.

Then, if you want to practice cultivation, everyone will help you and think of ways to give you the green light. When a person has such a thought, it will shake the world in ten directions. It is as glittering as gold and everyone will be able to see it. If this person wants to practice cultivation, it will be this way. With so much karma, what could be done? Then, measures have to be taken to eliminate the karma for you. Elimination of karma cannot be done unconditionally, nor can it all be eliminated for you. To what extent can others do it for you? I do not look at it. However, it is said in Buddhism that you cannot succeed in your cultivation in one lifetime, and that only after a few reincarnations can you succeed in your cultivation. Namely, you are unable to eliminate that much karma all at once.”
 
“What is "nothingness"? I mentioned before that people thought "emptiness" meant that nothing exists. And some people have said that "nothingness" meant not having anything exist. If nothingness truly meant that nothing was there at all, then what is nothingness itself? And if "emptiness" meant everything was gone, then what would emptiness itself be? If nothing really were existent, then even the concept of a name would not be there. In other words, the cultivation of a Great Way without form is really a formless kind of form.

You know, historically, whether it was Shakyamuni, Laozi, Jesus, or the many other Enlightened Ones or saints who taught their Fa or Dao in pre-history, they invariably took one of two approaches. One was to leave the secular world and cultivate, and the other was to take the form that Christianity and Catholicism use.For this reason, and drawing from past experiences, people have formed narrow understandings of divine beings and formed a sort of culture.

That's why as soon as you mention things like a being elevating, rising, cultivating, and so on, the world's people think about the formats that religion has used in the past and present. But these religions' formats are not the only ones in the cosmos, and they can't represent the various Law’s that boundless numbers of divine beings each validated, or the formats that each of them used to accomplish that. The number of gods at even each tiny level is so large that it's innumerable, so how could those two formats represent everything? They definitely can't. Then, exactly how many formats for cultivation are there?

There are eighty-four thousand cultivation disciplines in the Buddhist System and thirty-six hundred cultivation disciplines in the Daoist System. In fact, that was said from the vantage point of a very small level, that is the understanding at a certain level, and it was taught only to the extent that human beings could comprehend. You know, there are Buddhas beyond Buddhas, there are Heavens beyond Heavens, and there are Gods beyond Gods. So how big is the cosmos? It is just boundlessly and endlessly immense.”
 
“A person can Consummate at the level of the initial level Arhat Attainment Status as well , attaining self-liberation is adequate. It’s not necessary to think about saving all sentient beings, and a person doesn’t need to think about taking care of others—the cultivator just needs to work at attaining liberation himself and achieve it. That’s the initial -level Arhat Attainment Status.

If you want to achieve the Bodhisattva Attainment Status—even if it’s just the initial Bodhisattva Attainment Status—you need to cultivate and develop a heart of great compassion as you cultivate, and along with achieving self-liberation, you have to also help others be liberated. W hether you can accomplish that or not, you will have that compassion, see all sentient beings as truly suffering, and shed tears at the sight of them. It’s not feigned —it is real. It’s not something you will to happen. Of course, in cultivation that state won’t occur all the time, but it will occur.

Your compassion will be different if you cultivate into a Buddha. You definitely won’t shed tears like a Bodhisattva does when looking upon sentient beings. You will have compassion , will more clearly understand the karmic connections among sentient beings , and will view everything with greater wisdom. When Buddhas who have cultivated to a level much higher than a Tathagata stop and look at it, they’ll think, “What kind of compassion is that? ” They think that the compassion Buddhas have toward ordinary human beings is also an attachment.

They can only be compassionate toward those Gods, Buddhas, and sentient beings in the paradises of Buddhas below them , but have no compassion towards human beings. That’s not to say they aren’t compassionate, but rather, their realm s are too high. To them, the lives down here are so trivial that they ’re even lower than microorganisms. They don’t think that those deficient human beings are any kind of useful life form.

When Buddhas who have reached even higher realms look back, they think: “Oh, these Tathagata Buddhas are ordinary people too; what are those people doing down there? ” What do human beings look like to them? Humans are nothing ; they burrow around in the dirt like extremely tiny microorganisms. Then what about Buddhas in even higher, and even higher higher realms ? If you want to achieve th at state, you have to cultivate to that realm.

Then what about Buddhas in even higher, and even higher higher realms ? If you want to achieve th at state, you have to cultivate to that realm. I’m only giving you a simple idea of what it’s like. It’s not limited to just this.

The True Fa can’t be made known to human beings , because you still have human minds. Beings in different realms have different ways of existence. Also, the physical bod ies of beings on this side are constantly changing. If a Buddha ’s body is composed of atoms, then the bodies of those even higher Buddhas , and the bodies of the gods who are higher than Buddhas , could be composed of what is equivalent to neutrons. Further up, they could be composed of neutrinos or quarks.

And that’s only the microscopic scale that humans can recognize. What about those that are composed of more microscopic, even more microscopic matter? Their energy is visibly greater . The smaller a substance’s particles, the greater its density. Their appearances are thus extremely fine and lustrous. We can see pores on the human body, but if you look at a god’s body, there aren’t any pores. If you look at the beings in the Three Realms with bodies that are one level higher than those of humans—that is, the heavenly beings at different levels inside the Three Realms—you will see that to the human eye, their bodies are smooth , fine, and just wonderful.

That’s because their particles are smaller and denser than those of humans in the secular world. In other words, as a being continually elevates, the entire form at the surface elevates in tandem; but elevation of realms is a prerequisite. Consummation can be achieved in different realms. No matter which level you reach in cultivat ion, what’s below your level will no longer be a mystery to you. Everything below will be displayed before your eyes, and you will see things as they truly are. Yet everything higher than your level will forever be a mystery to you, you will never know about them, as where you are is the Attainment Status you have enlightened to. You will get out however much you put in and cultivate .”
 
“Everyone comes from his mother’s womb and feels not too bad. Some people do very well in business, some rank very high in office, some people live very comfortably and consider themselves better than others. In fact, you are also very miserable! It is because you do not know how you lived before. For instance, it is said in religions, "Living is suffering." Why is it? When you came out from your mother’s womb, you had this physical body made of molecules. In other dimensions, one does not have this layer of a body composed of molecules, and his most surface body is made of atoms. The surface matter made of molecules constitutes this dimension, including the human flesh body, which is also made of such molecules.

With a body made of this layer of matter, you had this flesh body as soon as you were born and you were given such a pair of eyes made of molecules so you cannot see other dimensions. Therefore, you are all in a maze. Then, you cannot see the truth of the universe while being in the maze. Wouldn’t you say that the way you live is like watching the sky while sitting on the bottom of a well. This way of life itself is quite pitiful? In addition, after you had this body, your body is afraid of pain and cannot stand cold, heat or thirst.

It cannot endure the tiredness from walking either. Anyway, it has brought you much discomfort as well as much suffering. Moreover, there is the existence of birth, aging, illness, and death. You often become sick. You think that you live very comfortably. In fact, in that suffering you only seem to be a little bit better off than others with slightly less suffering. And then, you feel that you are very comfortable. Man just exists like that. It is living in such an environment that man gradually loses his original human nature, increasingly disbelieving the existence of gods. With the inadequacy of empirical science, man has also lost the human moral values and slid down to the most dangerous situation.

However, human society also has a big advantage: because a person suffers, he is able to practice cultivation. Why is a Buddha always a Buddha in that realm of Buddhahood? Why can’t he ascend even higher? Why can’t a Bodhisattva become a Buddha through cultivation? Because they cannot find a place to suffer a little bit even if they want to. He could practice cultivation precisely because he is able to consolidate his Buddha nature in a maze. If there is no maze for him over there and he is able to see everything, then cultivation does not count because one can see everything.

Therefore, cultivation and enlightenment come first. Seeing comes later. Some people say, "If I see it, I will practice cultivation. If I do not see it, I will not practice cultivation." If everyone were allowed to see it, ordinary human society would no longer be human society, but a society of gods. With one hundred percent and no one left out, everyone would practice cultivation. Those people with all kinds of unforgivable sins and people with worse character would all want to practice cultivation.

Do you think that it is still a human society? It is precisely because man has become corrupt that he has fallen into this environment. If you want to return where you came from, you must have the following two factors. One is suffering. The other is enlightenment. With regard to enlightenment, Jesus talked about faith while enlightenment is required in the East. If you have lost these things, you will not be able to practice cultivation. However, why is it that people normally find it very difficult during the course of cultivation?

Actually, cultivation practice is not difficult. The difficulty lies in the inability to let go of ordinary human mind. Man has never been told what the Buddha Fa is in history. People had all regarded what Buddha Sakyamuni said as the systematic Buddha Fa. Please think about it. This enormous universe is quite complete and rather wise. Buddha Sakyamuni only mentioned a small portion of the Buddha principles. Besides, Buddha Sakyamuni did not disclose to man everything he knew either. He only taught people what they should know. Therefore, the Dharma left for human society now is only a tiny, tiny bit of the Buddha Fa.”
 
I noticed that many of your posts consist mostly or entirely of quotes from what you consider to be important and significant texts. Absent are your own thoughts, opinions, interpretations, etc.

It would be refreshing to hear what you actually think about all of this rather than to just see post after long post of material that can easily be linked to and viewed elsewhere.

Without relying on quotes from falundafa.org, do you care to expand on your beliefs and ideas?
 
Hi Gibran2,

The reason why I have quoted this Buddha Master is that I know that I have limited knowledge of Spiritual matters. I also believe there are still true Great Enlightened beings on the Earth today as there where throughout the ancient past with deep wisdom and vast knowledge of many esoteric things.

The Buddha Grandmaster who these quotes are from has trained in Spiritual Cultivation since the age of four. He has been trained by both Great Buddha and Daoist masters for 56 year constantly raising himself and perfecting himself through arduous cultivation. Once a person has practiced a spiritual discipline for a long time he may become what they refer to as 'enlightened' or 'unlocked'.

This state is one in which a person's innate and deep wisdom is awakened. It also unlocks one's Supernatural abilities which are innate in every human but have been atrophied and forgotten as people began to rely more on this Technological society.

The reason why I am sharing it with people is that it bears many similarities with the DMT Phenomena such as other dimensions, sentient beings in other realms, the vastness of the actual cosmos, realms within the microverse and macroverse and many other things.

In a way it reinforces the validity of peoples DMT experiences. That these places really exist and are real, realer then real. That they are the higher dimensions that prophets, sages and enlightened beings have tried to convey to the masses and teach them how to ascend to these places.

DMT in my opinion is a sneak peek, a shortcut to take a look. But it is not without real dangers to one's soul and spiritual development. Many case reports of DMT Travel include alien abduction, manipulation, seduction and rape by dubious entities, having ones self mangled and destroyed and a myriad of other bad and malevolent phenomena.

Many people light heartedly brush these things off as a 'bad DMT trip' however if we take into account that these places, beings, and states are very possibly real just not within our current dimension or current scientific paradigm then the implications of this are very serious and very real.

I'd like to share many more excerpts in this thread as I believe that some people may find them interesting. I'd recommend giving them a read however If you don't find them of interest and don't want to read them that is fine.

“What kind of dimensional form does our human race live in? I am telling everyone that this dimensional layer where mankind lives is between two kinds of particles. As for particles, those of us who have studied physics know that molecules, atoms, nuclei, quarks, and neutrinos are each a layer of particles. They are physical elements that constitute larger particles. Which layer of particles does mankind exist in? The largest things that we see with human eyes are planets, and the smallest things that we can see under the microscope are molecules.

In fact, our mankind just exists in this dimensional layer between the planets and the molecules. We may find it very vast, very extensive, and incomparably big. I say that modern science is not advanced. No matter how far a spacecraft can fly, it cannot fly beyond this physical dimension of ours. However developed a computer is, it cannot match the human brain. Now the human brain is still a mystery. Therefore, the science of mankind is still very shallow.

Try to imagine it, everyone. Our human race lives in between these two kinds of particles of planets and molecules. Molecules are made up of atoms, then what is the dimension between atoms and molecules like? Modern scientists can only understand an atom as a point, one of its small structures. In fact, the place where atoms exist is also a plane, and the physical dimension formed by such a plane is also quite huge. It is only that what you have discovered is a point. Within this plane then, how big is this dimension?

Our standard for measuring distances is always based upon the perspective of mankind’s own modern science to judge everything. You must jump out of the framework and the concepts of empirical science. In order for you to enter that dimension, you must comply with the forms of that dimension, and only then can you enter it. The distance from an atom to a molecule, as science understands it, is approximately two million atoms lined up, and only then can an atom reach a molecule. That is to say that this distance that it can understand is already quite vast. You cannot understand it from the standpoint of this present empirical scientific model of mankind. Then, please try to think about it for a moment.

Isn’t it a dimensional layer in between from an atom to its nuclei? How great then is the dimensional distance between the nuclei and a quark? What about between a quark and a neutrino? Of course, the current science of mankind can only understand as far as neutrinos. Man cannot see them except for detecting them with apparatus to know their mode of existence. In fact, it is not known how far away they are from the original source of matter!

What I am talking about is the simplest form of dimensional existence. All physical substances of our mankind, including all substances that you cannot see in the air as well as those substances that we can see such as iron, cement, animals, plants, matter, and the human body, are composed of molecules. Mankind just exists on this plane of molecules, just like a 3-D painting. You live on this plane and you cannot escape it. Mankind’s science is also limited within this one dimension which it cannot even break through.

Yet, people still claim how developed science is and disregard all other theories. Mankind’s technology cannot reach a higher understanding of the universe. If it were really able to break through this dimensional layer, it would see the mode of existence of life and the mode of existence of matter in other dimensions, as well as the structures in them made by time and space. However, our practitioners can see it. Only Buddhas are the greatest scientists.

When I talked about opening Tianmu (the third eye), I mentioned this issue. One can avoid using eyes to see things and look through this Tianmu of ours, namely between the two eyebrows, or from the Shangen as the Taoist School calls it. At the root of your nose, a passageway is opened directly to your Pineal Body. It is called the Pineal Body in medical science. Practitioners in the Taoist School call it the Niwan Palace, which refers to the same thing. However, in the front part of this Pineal Body, medical scientists have already found it equipped with all the component structures of a human eye.

Modern medical scientists find it very strange. Why is there an eye inside? They consider it a vestigial eye, and they still explain these things with the theory of evolution. In fact, it just exists this way, and it is not at all degenerated. When one avoids the flesh eyes, of course, when these flesh eyes have been cultivated, the flesh eyes can also penetrate and also have this kind of supernormal capability. The Buddha Fa is boundless. Generally, when one avoids the eyes, avoids the eyes that are made up of molecules to look, one will be able to penetrate this dimension and see scenes in other dimensions.

It is just such a principle. Therefore, practitioners can see things that ordinary people cannot see. Of course, some ordinary people occasionally have vaguely seen some unexplainable phenomena in their lifetimes. For instance, they may have seen a person pass before their eyes and disappear instantly, or they may have seen something or heard some sounds. That is probably the situation whereby they have actually vaguely seen or heard something in another dimension. Because one’s Tianmu is not sealed too tightly or his ears are not sealed too tightly, every once in a while he is able to hear the sounds of other dimensions or see some phenomena of other dimensions.

I’ve just spoken of this dimension in which mankind lives. Actually, this planet that our human race inhabits is neither the largest particle nor the largest substance. Beyond the planets there are still larger substances! Therefore, Buddha Sakyamuni’s eyes could already see quite microscopic matter in the extremely microscopic microcosm and could see quite enormous, macro matter in the macrocosm. However, at the end Buddha Sakyamuni could not see how big this universe ultimately is.

Therefore, he made a statement, "It is big enough without exterior, and it is small enough without interior." How huge this universe is! Please think about how complex it is. It is unlike what mankind knows. Even for this dimension of ours, this form, it is quite complex! Besides this dimensional form, there is also a dimensional form that exists vertically, and within this vertical dimension there are also many unitary paradises. It is very complex. The unitary worlds that I am talking about refer to paradises, etc. Each dimension has different time-spaces. Do you think that the time in the dimension composed of atoms, can be the same as that in our dimension over here, which is made up of molecules?

Its concept of space and its distance is also different from ours, and everything becomes different. Why do the extraterrestrial UFOs come and go from nowhere and fly so fast? They are traveling in other dimensions; it is just so simple. If man tries to understand the unexplained phenomena in the universe from his own current scientific perspective or uses this method to study cultivation practice or religions, he will never get it in his research. He has to change his way of thinking, and he must understand it from another perspective. In the history of man, science is not only today’s so-called empirical science that was discovered or invented by the Europeans. This is not the only path; there are other paths as well.

For those ancient civilizations that have been discovered on earth and once existed in history, their courses of development all took different paths in understanding life, matter, and the universe. The ancient science of China also took another path. The Chinese culture, although the levels it involved were very high, yet because the people’s morality was no longer good, it had also been suppressed. Therefore, it was not passed down, and this lowest form of science from the West was left to man instead. Thus, it is rather inadequate.”



“There are different dimensions in the cosmos, and each dimension has a different time. In the cosmos, from the largest to the smallest, from the infinitely microcosmic to the infinitely macrocosmic, there are countless particles, on each particle there’s an independent time, and each time has a different length. Then inside the different-sized worlds that are composed of particles, there are times; inside the even more gigantic cosmic bodies that are composed of countless particles, there are times as well; and then the gigantic groups of particles that are at the same levels, existing as a whole, also have even more gigantic times.

In the cosmos there are so many different times that they’re as countless as the beings in the cosmos. And the cosmos as a whole has another time, which contains countless, countless times that have their specific effects in all the different dimensions; all these times were created for the ways of existence of the sentient beings in the different dimensions. So some dimensions’ times are very fast, while some dimensions’ times are very slow.

The sentence that I just uttered about the different speeds in different dimensions, for example, from the beginning of it up to now, some dimensions’ times have proceeded at the same speed as mine here, while in some dimensions several days have already passed, in some dimensions ten of thousands of years have already passed, and in some dimensions hundreds of millions of years, or thousands of billions of years have already passed, that fast. This is because the cosmos is incredibly gigantic, the particles inside it are infinitely microcosmic and infinitely macrocosmic, and they all have their own times.”


“What’s known as “empirical science” is limited to the physical dimension visible to the human eye—only one dimension within the Three Realms. So how many layers of matter are there in the Three Realms? There are so many that the number is incalculable, and humankind inhabits but one of them. Your eyes can only see what’s within this one layer; they are confined to this scope alone.

This vast cosmos can never be sized up by the human mind, for your mind lacks the capacity. Human language can’t describe the way the cosmos is at very high realms. There’s no such vocabulary, nor even concepts for it—nothing can describe it clearly. So human language can’t be used to teach high-level things. Only through your continuous advancement during the course of practicing cultivation can you yourself gradually understand or enlighten to it.”

“When people see scenes of the heavens they’re shocked and think, “What colors can I use to depict this?” Human beings can see as well as touch and use matter at the surface that is composed of molecules. But when it comes to things that are composed of particles more microscopic than molecules, ordinary people can only sense their energy. The colors of matter in dimensions composed of particles more microscopic than molecules can’t be found here at this human place. Actually, molecules carry energy too. Not only do they carry energy, they can also have the impact of energy.

The people in this world can’t sense the energy because their bodily composition, eyes, skin, blood, flesh and everything else are all things in the layer of molecular particles. That’s why humans can’t sense the energy that exists at the same level as them, and the reason they can sense the energy of a more microscopic level is that particles that make up objects at this human level are larger in size than the microscopic particles. In other words, the elements that make up colors are not particles of only one level, and that’s why high-level dimensions appear brighter and shinier than dimensions that are made up of particles of one level below.

But that brightness is the kind that transcends realms, so in the human world you can’t find those kinds of colors. Even if you used radiant colors, you still wouldn’t be able to depict them. If you could completely display Gods in the human world using everything of Gods, that would mean Gods had arrived in the human world.”
 
sgtWow said:
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DMT in my opinion is a sneak peek, a shortcut to take a look. But it is not without real dangers to one's soul and spiritual development. Many case reports of DMT Travel include alien abduction, manipulation, seduction and rape by dubious entities, having ones self mangled and destroyed and a myriad of other bad and malevolent phenomena.
Do you believe this because you’ve read about it, or because you’ve experienced it for yourself? Do you feel your spiritual development has in some way been hampered by using DMT?
 
“Annihilation of a person’s body and spirit, that’s something really horrifying—extremely horrifying! Were I to tell you the details, you wouldn’t be able to bear the extent of its dreadfulness. It’s just too frightening! People think they only have one life, when in fact this lifetime is just like being asleep, as your true self assumes little role. When you come out of the shell of your physical body, you will find that you are light and buoyant. You will discover that your mind is totally open, as you are then free from the human brain’s restrictions. Upon your entering that dimension, time will change from the time in the dimension of ordinary humans. It’s like waking from sleep: You will suddenly find that everything you did over the course of your life is clearly and vividly before your eyes.

Every little thing will appear, as if you had just done it—it will be that clear. The brain will have suddenly been set free. You will know all of the good things and bad things you’ve done. Can you say that the things you’ve done among ordinary humans aren’t your own doing? You can’t just reincarnate again and keep doing bad things. Gods look at your beingin its entirety, not just one lifetime of yours. Accordingly, you, as a being, have to pay for everything you’ve done. That’s the principle. So if a person does bad deeds he has to pay for them.

If annihilation is to take place, that’s just terrifying! If body and spirit are to be completely exterminated, how are they exterminated? It’s done by killing and exterminating the tangible beings of this person’s entire life. At the moment when the body is killed, his Spirit and all of his intelligent beings—which can exist in realms at this same level—will all be killed. But he isn’t really dead after being killed.

He has merely left this level, and his more microscopic beings still exist. Then the more microscopic beings are killed at the same time. And he has to pay at every level for his karma during the process of being killed. How does he pay for it? He pays through the pain from being exterminated and through all the suffering—just like suffering all kinds of torment in Hell, such as being seared with a sheet of burning-red iron. In short, everything has to be paid for throughtorment, and then he’s killed level by level.

His existence is still not over yet after being killed, for he still has beings composed of more microscopic particles. Beings at those levels have to continue to suffer, to continue being killed. And then his bodies at even more microscopic levels will continue to suffer, and continue being killed, until all are completely annihilated. That agony is utterly horrifying!!! Some people say, “When I die, all the bad things I did will be over with.” How could it be that easy?! You have to pay for all the bad things you did before they’re “over with.” Yet this “over” isn’t really over: You are cast down to somewhere tremendously filthy—the filthiest place in the cosmos. Gods all say that human sputum is the filthiest thing.

You will be thrown into a pot of sputum. You feel that a sick person’s sputum is filthy, the filthiest thing. But let me tell you that it can’t even be compared with those filthiest of filthiest places.This person will be cast down to the filthiest of filthiest places, yet he’ll have a glimmer of consciousness and know that it’s filthy. You tell me what that’s got to feel like! He will stay there forever and never be able to get out. Now that is really something horrifying! Shakyamuni didn’t discuss it to this extent. He only spoke of Hell and mentioned the eighteen levels of Hell. Each level of Hell is more miserable than the previous one.”
 
To answer your question Gibran, yes I have tried it. And yes I do believe my spiritual being has been harmed in some ways with this compound, most definitely. The after effects are hard to put into words, a shift of consciousness to a lower frequency and other subtle things happen after the initial jump and voyage.

I beleive it is possible to heal and repair this damage i.e loss with various spiritual disciplines, it all depends how much ones will has been 'hacked' or comprimised.

DMT I will tell you, is a spiritual hack. It is what the ancients called the 'Poison Path' or the left hand way.It is a chemical method to literally force one's soul into other dimensions. It is both highly dangerous and risky and also a sure fire way to attract 'spirit possesion' or manevolent entities.

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Now I'd just like to post some more Buddha Law lecture excerpts for those interested:

“No matter what kind of hardship a being endures or what blessing he receives in any dimension of the cosmos or in any environment, there will be payback—either a reward for good or retribution for evil.”

“The development of human society and every situation in the universe have been arranged by gods. These things all follow certain patterns. Human society experiences bad situations, including wars, earthquakes, floods, epidemics, plagues etc., and there are many, many other natural disasters. In fact, all of these have a purpose. They eliminate karma for mankind. Human beings’ thoughts are directed by gods.

Human beings never think about where their thoughts come from. When they want to do something in a particular way, when their thoughts emerge, when a so-called inspiration comes along, or when they suddenly remember something, they all think those are their own thoughts, when in fact many are not.

Gods are keeping every aspect of human society under tight control. However, there is one thing. There’s a principle in this universe that says: when it comes to what a human being wants to do, what he wants to do as an individual entity, you still have to look at the person’s thoughts. If he wants to cultivate, great, I’ll help him cultivate; if he doesn’t want to be good, I’ll let him be, and he’ll become a very bad individual. But overall, human society is controlled by gods. So, when a person is good, he’ll have a bright future, and if he isn’t, he won’t, and he’ll have darkness and evil karma awaiting him.”


“ I’ve told you that, regardless of whether it’s Jesus, St. Mary, Yahweh (whose ability exceeds that of even the previous two), or the Buddhas in Eastern religions, with a wave of the hand there wouldn’t be one single sick person on this tiny Earth. Why aren’t they being compassionate and doing that for people? Because people themselves are doing bad things. Of course, this isn’t to punish people—it’s the principle of the universe evaluating all beings. Since humans have done bad things, they have to pay for them themselves. Suppose you killed someone, and a Buddha eliminated the karma for you.

Then, would it mean that you’re allowed to kill people as you please? How could it be acceptable for a Buddha to eliminate your diseases as soon as you had killed people and generated karma? When people do bad things they have to pay for it and bear the responsibility. But when people have done bad things, the most obvious manifestation of it in the human body is sickness, which is used to punish people.

I’m not the only one saying this—Jesus also said that people have sins. Why do people have sins? It’s exactly because people have karma in their bodies. Western culture doesn’t have the word “karma”—there’s no such word in Western culture. So Jesus used the word “sin” to illustrate the general point. In fact, isn’t having karma the same as having sins? Without sins, how could there be karma? It’s the same idea.”


“Say a person came to the world and has reincarnated lifetime after lifetime . You have no idea how many lives and how many lifetimes you’ve been through. But in each and every lifetime you have accrued many debts to others and done much wrong. Some people came from various levels and have reincarnated onto this earth. They did wrong things as they were descending step by step, which is to say they’ve spent time in some high-level dimensions.

Why couldn’t they remain in those dimensions? It’s because over there they again did bad things and descended further; they did bad things again and descended even further. So the debts accrued from doing wrong in the heavens were owed to gods. The gods in the heavens won’t allow a human being to return to the heavens! Without a Master to teach you, without a master looking after you, you could never return no matter how great your abilities.

After coming to th e earth it’s forever impossible to return if you aren’t taken care of by the kind of master who truly saves people. That’s because even if you could really pay for the karma of the human world, you still couldn’t pay for what is owed in the heavens. Jesus wanted to save people and had great mercy, so he ignored all of that. He then had to undo those hard-to-undo karmic knots that were tied onto people.

Yet in this universe there’s a law that states: “Those who don’t lose, don’t gain ; to gain, you must lose ; what is owed must be repaid.” That’s absolute, it’s an absolute and eternal law. Accordingly, if you release a person from it, who will pay for his debts? So those accounts or all of those debts naturally fell on Jesus . “You untied it for them, then you pay for it on their behalf.” All of the knots that couldn’t be undone, everything that was owed, and the things that those people being saved simply had no way to free themselves from, all of it was fastened onto Jesus since he was on the earth.

There were karmic debts from all different levels; meaning, they weren’t only from here, among humans. What extent did it finally reach? The more people he saved, the more knots he carried. He simply had no way to free himself, nor did he have the energy to do those things . The knots couldn’t be untied.

So in the end, Jesus saved those people, but his own human body couldn’t be freed. Jesus thus had no choice but to abandon this body to pay th e karmic debt s for them. A lot of lives’ karma as well as great hatred all landed on Jesus. “Alright, I will pay them for all believers.” He was crucified and died an agonizing death. All knots were bound to his flesh body, and with the death of his flesh body they were released. Jesus was freed the moment that body was cast off. That’s why Jesus had to be crucified, and why people say Jesus suffered for people. That’s the reason.”


“Karma not only manifests in our ordinary human society, that is, in the human world. The positive and the negative coexist in all matter. Where there are Buddhas, there are also demons; where there are human beings, there are ghosts; where there are good people, there are bad people; where there are believers, there are doubters; where there is support, there is opposition. Even when it comes to human beings, there are males and females.

Everything exists in opposition to something else, and everything has a yin-yang relationship—that is, a relationship of mutual-generation and mutual-inhibition. So when people do wicked deeds they definitely produce bad karma, and their thoughts are evil. In Buddhism they differentiate between good karma and bad karma. I’ve found that even the good karma that people talk about has two sides to it, one positive and one negative.

Let’s talk about Buddhism during a relatively good period in history. It was a cultivation group then, and everyone safeguarded the cultivation group with kindness. But if someone tried to damage or attack it, they would, like others, take corresponding measures to protect themselves. So it also had a negative side, which was the evil side: If you damage my monastery, I may risk my life fighting you; if you harm our monks or disciples, I’ll retaliate fiercely. That is, even in good deeds, a negative side, or the evil side, always existed. So, strictly speaking, their idea of good karma and bad karma isn’t comprehensive. They only have the ability to talk about it in a general sense.

In order to articulate how the positive substances and the negative substances precisely play out and how they truly manifest, we call the best part—what’s most meaningful to human beings and most beneficial to cultivators, as it can be directly transformed into gong (cultivation energy), virtue (de). And in fact, it really is the virtue normally talked about. As for karma, we use the term to refer to all bad karma, the evil side of “good karma,” the evil side of things, and all things that belong to the negative side. It’s more accurate to refer to them this way.

As for a person’s mind-intent, if a bad thought arises in an everyday person’s mind, if he intends to do something bad but doesn’t take action, or if no bad outcome occurs, then no karma is produced. If he doesn’t succeed in doing it, he doesn’t produce karma; if he does succeed in doing it, he produces karma. And that karma will manifest in his body and in the field around his body. However, when a person has a bad thought, thought-karma is produced in his mind. That’s why thoughts about bad-mouthing someone, about opposing or doubting, or about wavering in your own cultivation, and so on, arise in the minds of our cultivators and disrupt them.”

“The phenomenon of retribution in the same lifetime existed before and will continue to exist in the future. Minor misbehavior may result in retribution in the same lifetime. After a person does something bad, he falls hard when he walks out the door, or is hit by something when he steps outside. Although the degree of severity can vary, he’s still being punished. People usually don’t believe in the existence of high-level beings in other dimensions, so they think that what happened was accidental. They recognize only humans as intelligent beings. How absurd people have become! There are lives everywhere in this universe.

People commit bad deeds and do things as they please; when someone becomes like that, retribution in the same lifetime becomes less frequent. So what will happen? He’ll accumulate karma, and accrue more and more of it. When there gets to be too much karma, his life will be shortened. The more karma he has, the more his life will be shortened, and additional karma will shorten his life further. For example, for people who’ve done too many bad things and have become “evil beyond forgiveness,” although they die in this world, they will continue to be exterminated in other dimensions until they’ve paid off all of their karma—there are numerous ways of being exterminated. In other words, they have to pay for everything. That’s really horrifying.”


“Nothing that happens on earth, that is, nothing that happens in human society is accidental. You know, to prevent humans from prematurely deteriorating to the point of being destroyed—[in other words,] to sustain human lives and maximally allow people to return again when reincarnating and not descend to Hell and eventually meet with annihilation—gods in the past continually helped humans pay off their karma.

That isn’t known to man. As gods helped man pay off his karma, they also helped society, matter, and all beings pay off their karma. Even some matter has karma. For example, say that a person has done bad deeds. He dies and his karma follows him—it follows his being. Then he won’t be able to reincarnate as a human in his next life. If he reincarnates as a tree, that tree will have karma. If he reincarnates as an animal, that animal will have karma.

By the same token, this means that if he reincarnates as some kind of material, that matter will have karma too. I’d say if you could open your eyes and take a look at the world, you almost couldn’t live here—there is karma billowing everywhere. What happens if man’s karma becomes too massive? Gods won’t come to the human world to directly eliminate karma for human beings. Karma elimination can’t be unconditional—the universe has this law. So gods uphold the laws of the universe when they do things.

The universe has a law. What’s it called? It’s called “no loss, no gain.” To gain, one has to lose. So if you want to eliminate karma for man, people will have to bear the karma. If you don’t help them pay off their karma they will accumulate more and more of it. If the karma becomes enormous, it’s called “evil beyond forgiveness.” Annihilation is what comes after the state of evil beyond forgiveness is reached. The person’s existence will be annihilated and not allowed to continue—it will be completely annihilated. So if you want to eliminate karma for humans so as to protect them, they have to endure the suffering of paying off their karma.

How are they to suffer? They have to endure natural disasters, man-made calamities, and disease. In fact, let me tell you a truth: If a person doesn’t get sick, if that person doesn’t get ill once during his lifetime, he is one-hundred percent guaranteed to descend to Hell after he dies. That’s because a person produces karma while he’s alive. It’s just like what Jesus said: Man has sins. People are in danger if they only produce karma and don’t pay it off. That’s why people get sick and have misfortune. What happens when people on a large scale have accumulated karma? Earthquakes, fires, floods, and even plagues and wars.”
 
I'd just like to add that if anyone is interested in this practice, you can download the full Buddha Law Lecture free either in video or audio format here:


It's a 9 part lecture and each part roughly goes for an hour and a half. It covers many profound topics on various topic including the true history of mankind, the cosmos, other dimensions, supernatural abilities, cultivation of ones soul and many many other interesting things.
 

In continuation of The Buddha Law Lecture excerpts, I have come upon a fascinating excerpt where Master Li expounds upon the topic of the Heavens:



"Next, I’ll address one other subject for you, something students can’t explain clearly in cultivation, namely, the “heavens” (tian). According to contemporary science, spaceships have traveled to outer space and flown to many other planets, but they haven’t seen any human beings or paradises of gods, nor were there the scenes of different heavens within the Three Realms that people have talked about. So modern people use this logic to reject religion, deny legends from the past, and negate the most essential nature of human beings. Actually, the “heavens” that gods refer to isn’t at all the same concept as the heavens human beings see.

I often say that molecules compose everything in this material dimension of human beings, while microcosmic matter is the reason for the composition of molecules, and layers of even more-microcosmic matter are the fundamental reasons for the composition of layers of particles at different levels. Gods are in extremely microcosmic worlds, which are nonetheless extremely vast worlds, broad spaces. The microcosmic worlds and the dimensions formed in the microcosm that I have told you about in each lecture are where gods reside. Think about it: Gods… I mentioned the other day that things in the human dimension, such as air, matter, soil, rocks, iron and steel—everything in this dimension, including your body—are composed of molecules.

Yet molecules are the coarsest, most superficial, and filthiest matter in the universe. These molecules—actually, in the eyes of gods, all molecules—are seen as dirt and considered mud in the universe, and this is the understanding merely at the level of Tathagata. That’s why what was said in the past about Yahweh and Nü Wa using mud to create man was true. It is because even your flesh is made of molecules, and in the eyes of gods, it’s mud, it’s dirt, and something that is most coarse. Then think about it, everyone: No matter how far spaceships may travel, have they flown beyond the realm of molecules? Say an airplane flies in the sky and you travel from Asia to America.

You feel like you have flown rather high and quite far; the fact is, you are merely moving inside mounds of molecules and you are all moving on the ground—this isn’t the heavens in the least. In the eyes of gods, it is only a matter of different long or short distances within substances of the same level. The dimensions composed of microcosmic worlds are the real heavens that gods refer to. The more refined and microcosmic a substance is, the more quintessential and refined the surface it composes.

Energy exists in all matter, including molecules. It is only because the human body and everything around you is composed of molecules—even the machines you use to measure that energy are also composed of molecules—that you can’t detect the energy of molecules. The more microcosmic the matter is, the more energy it has and the stronger its radioactive power is—the more microcosmic, the more powerful. That is why gods’ energy and forms of existence are like that. So let me word it a bit more clearly for you: People on Earth see that the Moon, the Sun, Venus, Mars, as well as the Milky Way, outer space, the remote cosmic bodies, and so on, are all in the heavens. But if you look at Earth from Mars, wouldn’t you say that it too is in the heavens? It’s in the heavens as well. This is an understanding that breaks through ordinary people’s ways of thinking.

But, understood at a deeper level—think about it—what are the heavens? Once you enter a microcosmic dimension, that is the heavens. Let me give the simplest example and tell you a story. In the past, there was a cultivator of the Dao walking on the street while drinking. He suddenly saw someone. This person was just who he had been looking for—someone who could cultivate the Dao. So he wanted to save this person and take him as his disciple. He asked this person, “Do you want to follow me to cultivate the Dao?” This person’s enlightenment quality and inborn quality were very good, and he said, “I do.” “Do you dare to follow me?” the cultivator asked. The person replied, “Yes, I do!” “Do you dare to follow me wherever I go?” he then asked. “Yes,” was the reply.

The cultivator then said, “Okay. Now follow me!” Saying that, he put his palm-sized wine gourd on the ground, opened the lid, and jumped into the gourd. The person saw that his master had jumped in, so he imitated his master and likewise jumped into the gourd. The bystanders all leaned over and looked inside the gourd. “Wow!” they exclaimed. There was a vast world inside the gourd, really vast. Viewed with human thinking, how could it be possible for a person so big to jump into such a small wine gourd? That’s because when you want to enter that dimension, everything of your body has to conform to the state of that dimension before you can enter. When you travel through the gaps between different dimensions, your body inevitably enters those states of being.

This is because the more microcosmic particles of matter are, the more vast and broad the planes are at their levels. At the levels of microcosmic particles, the way the gourd manifests is different from the form that human beings see; all particles are connected. What appears to be large or small to human beings is only a form of manifestation in the space-time formed by the same particles. That is to say, the surface of the gourd is formed by molecules, and that’s the shape you see, but the gourd in the microcosm isn’t like this. It is connected to the universe at that realm. Do you understand what I said? (Applause) I’m just discussing that kind of idea. This is something that man cannot understand and that can’t be understood by human conceptions.

So, having mentioned a person going up to the heavens, I can say that if you suddenly enter a stone, isn’t that going up to the heavens? It won’t do if you enter the surface formed by the stone substance. You enter the realms of the microcosmic particles that form its molecular particles—aren’t you going to the heavens? Aren’t you in the heavens if you shrink into the microcosmic levels of your body? When you enter the microcosmic particles of the surface particles of dimensions at any level—in other words, enter the layer of particles smaller than that one—you are already in the heavens. It’s just that the levels of heavens are different, and the microcosmic degree is different. After you enter the microcosm, although you see that you enter the stone, enter your body, or enter a certain thing, you have actually entered the broad universe connected to that dimension. In other words, this isn’t the human way of thinking.

I often say that what people refer to as east, west, south, or north, up, down, in, or out, doesn’t exist in the universe, and it’s different from human thinking and concepts. After I explain it like this you will understand, “Oh, it’s not at all like it is when you use human thinking to contemplate it.” The present-day science is very shallow. It can’t detect or know the real heavens because it crawls within only the current material dimension, and this has limited it. And the science imposed upon man by aliens is thus confined to this. Aliens are living beings in this dimension as well, and they are similarly incapable of knowing the truth of the universe.

Man does not believe in gods, and this is no simple problem. It is man destroying human morality. When man believes in karmic retribution, believes that doing good deeds is rewarded and doing bad deeds meets with retribution, and that whatever man does is watched by gods, man then won’t dare to do evil things. Man knows that doing good deeds will accumulate virtue (de) and be rewarded with happiness, which is absolutely true. But man no longer believes these things; science nowadays doesn’t believe in them, and it considers them superstition. This is exactly swinging the club of science to strike at people’s righteous thinking.

Isn’t this striking at the most essential nature of human beings? When people’s morality, upright beliefs, and righteous thinking are destroyed to the point of nonexistence, people will recklessly do whatever they want to and will resort to any means to achieve their goals. This is one of the fundamental reasons for the deterioration of human society. People in Western society appear to believe in God, but they don’t really believe in God: What they truly believe in is science. Gods are not like what they have imagined, that is, beings with human emotions. Just now I corrected a key concept for you, namely, how “heavens” are to be understood. What gods and human beings mean when they each speak of “heavens” are two different things.

During the course of cultivation, many people sometimes see that they seem to have entered their own bodies. Their bodies are like a vast sky, they move in the sky and walk among the cosmic bodies, and doors are opened one after another as they dash forward. When they take a closer look or expand their minds one step further to take a look, they realize, “Oh, it’s the energy channels in my body being opened.” Let’s think about it.

When you are cultivating, your bodies are being changed from the utmost microcosm on up. So what is the utmost microcosm? Aren’t your other bodies precisely in the heavens and in those realms? It is only that you the person have fallen into the midst of ordinary people, and along with that, you have fallen to where ordinary people are; even the part that’s the most microcosmic has dropped to the level of ordinary people.

However, if you can return through cultivation, everything will be rectified for you, so you will go through that experience. Many cultivators in history have seen those phenomena [that I just described], but they weren’t able to describe it. Sometimes those in the Buddhist religion say that Buddha is in one’s mind, while people in the Dao school say that the human body is a small universe, and so on, and this has to do with their having seen such things.

When I was talking about science I said that science is not playing a good role. Not only does it pollute mankind’s environment and destroy the tissues of the human body, but also aliens will eventually replace human beings. Its things have penetrated every field in human society, mankind can’t break away from science, and everything is now created by science. Since this is the case, as Dafa disciples, no matter what your professions are, you should just go ahead and do your work, and do your work well—that will be good enough. As for everything that is happening, don’t concern yourself with it. I’m not telling you to oppose this science, nor am I teaching you to break free from it.

That’s not what I mean. I am telling you what science is. Science’s understanding of many things is terribly shallow; even its understanding of matter in this existing dimension is inadequate. Its inability to recognize the existence of divine beings has limited its development. For instance, scientists nowadays are saying that mankind’s industrial pollution is quite severe, and one of the examples is that freon and other substances used in coolants are said to cause damage to the ozone layer.

They say that damage to the ozone layer has occurred at the South Pole, where a hole has appeared. The fact is, science is incapable of realizing the role played by gods, so people say that the hole was caused by damage to the ozone layer. It is true that the pollution brought on by modern industry has polluted mankind’s air to an extremely terrible extent.
Yet the countless lives in the microcosms of the immense universe are, whether they have form or not, all gods, and they exist in microcosms that human beings can’t see. Air is composed of molecular particles, while molecular particles are composed of more-microcosmic particles.

In the air itself there are countless layers—layer after layer, progressing toward the microcosm—and all [that exist there] are gods. When they saw that man’s environment had become like this, they opened up a window, opened a door, to expel the waste gases from Earth. This was done by gods. They opened it on purpose and then closed it. If gods didn’t protect human beings, humans would not survive. Man not only doesn’t believe in gods, but also even dares to disrespect gods.

Let’s use the simplest example. You know that the places where industrial pollution is most severe are the most populated places—big cities. Why didn’t a hole develop in the ozone layer above those places? That’s because gods think that opening a hole in the South Pole area is safe for man. It should be that wherever there are more waste gases there is a hole in the ozone layer, right, so why isn’t it that way? It is nothing like what people have imagined. There is also a large hole above the Qinzhang Plateau in China—the big holes always appear in sparsely inhabited areas.

It’s not just limited to the ozone layer that we can see, for the microcosmic materials contained in matter are quite numerous, and they all must make way so that those things can be evacuated. Of course, this is what gods have done for man.

Mankind’s pollution has caused even more serious problems. You know that almost no fresh water in the world is pure. Whether it be underground water or above-ground water, no matter how people filter or purify water, water’s real purity cannot be reached. Moreover, people reuse water repeatedly and water becomes more and more polluted because human water circulates—fresh water is a circulating substance.

Fresh water doesn’t mix with seawater since they aren’t the same substance. Life exists in any matter and in any object. You see that on the surface it is water, but over on the other side it is imbued with life. When soil, water, air and the like are polluted more and more, the harm to mankind also becomes greater and greater.

The development of today’s human society is a repeat of the development of the last human society; the last cycle was a trial run for this cycle. If development continues along this path, human beings will become deformed. Industrial waste gases and wastewater will cause human beings to become deformed and look hideous, looking half demon, half human. That’s how it will be if it develops further. What’s more, there is also people’s wicked behavior that results from the factors of moral deterioration"



From the Western U.S Fa Conference:


 
I have a few questions..

I read up to the "god body" then stopped. Is that not a direct contradiction? In that, the idea of a god seems to denote an eternal being. Yet a body is clearly finite. Similarly with this idea that the light destroys spirits....destroys them to what?

Also, these supernatural powers; any idea how theyre shown. Have any of these buddhas had documented proof of these abilities?
 
unansweredquestions wrote:

I have a few questions..

I read up to the "god body" then stopped. Is that not a direct contradiction? In that, the idea of a god seems to denote an eternal being. Yet a body is clearly finite. Similarly with this idea that the light destroys spirits....destroys them to what?

Also, these supernatural powers; any idea how theyre shown. Have any of these buddhas had documented proof of these abilities?

Unanswered apologies for these quote excerpts. They can be taken out of context and are not that concise and comprehensive. They are only a few different excerpts from various lectures that I found interesting and decided to share.

As for your questions I beleive they can be answered within the core book of Falun Dafa entitled 'Zhuan Falun. This is a much more comprehensive expounding of this practice and goes into depth about all the questions you have raised:

 
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