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hexagonomicon

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I’m coming more and more to the conclusion that DMT (and possibly psychedelics in general) are simply not for everyone. Let me explain what I mean by this. I don’t think that anybody should be denied the psychedelic experience if they seek it, in fact I do believe that everybody should have a psychedelic experience at least once in their lives. But we need to take a realistic look at the current socio-political framework that this psychedelic revival is taking place under, and we need to take steps to ensure the sanctity and survival of a psychedelic tradition based on experience and wisdom.

Right now you can buy DMT containing botanicals as easy as anything else legal online. The internet has allowed the massive dissemination of extremely simple and effective extraction teks, and now anybody who wants to can have access to what many call the Spirit Molecule. I’m convinced this won’t last much longer. Soon enough we will see MHRB, viridis, and ayahuasca imports made illegal, along with massive internet censorship. The information and plants are out there, nobody can stop them, but we who have the knowledge and experience need to ensure that it is passed on to worthy individuals.

A part of my proposal, also, is a shift in the way that we introduce psychedelics, and DMT specifically, to other people. The west has no shamanic tradition, and because of that the psychedelic community has been stumbling around senseless until very recently as it has begun to mature, and as the old generation of Elders (Hoffman, McKenna, Shulgin, Leary, etc) passes on. Psychedelics were initially explored under a psychoanalytical model, which I personally think doesn’t work. Now we are moving into a mode of exploration based on a model of “urban shamanism” which has a greater emphasis on mythology, magick, and inter/trans-personal experience.

This emerging psychedelic paradigm, borne out of the internet, can finally come to terms with the ideas of people like McCluhan and McKenna. There is an awareness of language, and a reclamation of mythology and symbolism. And what is the modern mythology that comes along with psychedelics? Hyperspace, entities, “vibes”, the pineal gland, and cosmic consciousness are the pillars of modern psychedelic mythology. We’ve created symbols like the mantis, the mandala of eyes, and geometric patterns immediately identifiable by anybody “in the know”. The psychedelic community has never hesitated to define its own culture, and I think this is a wonderful thing.

What is often missing, though, is a context for use in which ritual and proper guidance can be incorporated into the experience of the novice tripper. Summer festivals can serve this function to a degree, but unfortunately those events are often contaminated with a reckless party atmosphere. Burning Man seems to be one of the few high profile festivals which explicitly embraces ritual and deliberate shaping of the environment through media in order to alter consciousness. Other festivals may use occult symbolism in their logos (Bonnaroo anyone?) but any notion of ritual seems to be absent, especially from the people who attend.

Now I’d like to synthesize all these ideas I’ve talked about into what I’ve been calling The Culture. The Culture consists of cultivators/extractors, people who have extensive experience with psychedelics, who possess fact based knowledge about the chemistry and physiology, and, most importantly, who make deliberate efforts to reclaim mythology in order to redefine their worldview/identity by using the power of symbols/language to shape their environment, their own mind, and the minds of others. These people are modern day alchemists, transmuting horse manure and raw plant materials into substances capable of transforming the individual. Cultivation and extraction are alchemical processes, and in my opinion these processes should be performed as being reflective of the inner transformation which we seek.

Because most of these people are self-taught via the internet and books, there hasn’t been a need, or even a desire for the experienced to pass their knowledge directly to others in person. Adopting an “apprentice” would only open up most people to liabilities. But someday this will change. I was fortunate enough to have a friend teach me how to cultivate, but I have had trouble finding a worthy student to pass my knowledge on to. Most people aren’t really interested in taking a serious spiritual approach to psychedelics and the profit motive seriously mucks up peoples’ intentions.

I look forward to the day when I will be able to meet up with like minded people and engage in psychedelic exploration in a seriously ritualized context rather than a casual party atmosphere. I imagine a place where people can gather and be properly initiated into a purposeful group of extractors and cultivators. There can be a library, and a small solar monument built to track the passing of time and to mark the solstices. I dream lofty dreams, but my intent is to redirect an often reckless and purposeless psychedelic culture, or at least allow the pure fraction of tomorrows shamans to precipitate out of solution and crystallize into something beautiful.

What can we do to crystallize The Culture? First I would recommend creating one’s own rituals. Creating a small alter with symbolic objects is a good place to start. It doesn’t really matter what they are, as long as they have significance for you and your worldview. Becoming symbol literate, adopting existing symbols, or creating new ones will be very important for this. Secondly, I’d recommend being very mindful of who you share your spice or fungi with. You should ask yourself, “what are the intentions of this person? Do they respect the substance? How much do they know about psychedelics, and what are their expectations? Are they willing to participate in a ritualized context like myself?” etc. Thirdly, we must find a way to connect. Things like the Synchronized Hyperspace Event, are a good place to start. The DMT-Nexus seems to attract a different breed of psychonaut and this is good. But eventually these connections will have to move offline, and this must be done in a way that is safe and discreet.

The Culture, already exists. We are part of it. The only question is, where do we want to take it?
 
Your writing is well organized and presented. If you are able you should expand your concepts and author a book to prolificate your vision. You may have the communication skills to represent.. I may have a specific response to what you said, but I wanted to tell you right away you could be a good representitive, and of indespensible use to the community... right away!
 
Hello hexagonomicon,

What you wrote down is an excellent piece of awareness. It might be me but, just like what Spock's Brain says, with these thoughts and these communication skills you might be a new one of a new generation of public speakers on this subject.

You mention the S.H.E. as a good place to start. It's good you mention this since I think the S.H.E. needs a good makeover with new goals to accomplish. Back in the days, the old ones were very exciting but those are gone and I think it needs to focus more on the what you call "The Culture". Maybe you even like to collaborate with me about implementing "The Culture" into the new S.H.E.?
 
Thanks everyone. I'm glad to see my ideas are well received. I actually am writing a book at the moment, and that piece will probably be in it. I wanted there to be a psychonaut book that wasn't written by a total drug fiend who ends up dying during one of his "experiments" from ketamine.

I think that the anti-youtube/dmt campaign is a good indicator that most other people are on board with the idea of keeping things low key. I'm surprised though that there is a suppliers list for botanicals on these forums. I'd say that should go. but that's my opinion.

I haven't done a SHE yet, but I'm eager to participate. From looking over the website it seems that the thing didn't get off on a good start. QUite frankly I think the whole prime number thing is absurd, plus people tend to choose glyphs which are already images typical of DMT mythology. That's a confound.

anyways, yeah, I'll send you a pm
 
hexagonomicon said:
...keeping things low key. I'm surprised though that there is a suppliers list for botanicals on these forums. I'd say that should go. but that's my opinion.

I second that, absolutely 100%
 
I’m coming more and more to the conclusion that DMT (and possibly psychedelics in general) are simply not for everyone.

I disagree.

I think they aren't for cowards or narrow minded people... but everyone else can use them.
 
Great thread dude!! While i totally agree that while continuing to work within the current modality, entheogens are not for everyone..but that it not simply becasue they can't handle them or are too "week minded"...There is just way too much bullshit programming that they have been exposed to over the years, that builds the fundamental basis of they're "reality tunnel"..such reality tunnels that run off of the programing of mainstream society have NO background/program to deal with what entheogens show them..

Society is sick, it's like the collective human internet system has way too many viruses, with no way of cleaning the harddrive..it's all about the psychological battle at the core..and that core is in the mind, in the thoughts..in the places society deems "unreal" or fantacy. So we refuse to meet these problems on they're ground, at the core..so they manifest into the physical in the inevitable act of integration..destroying us.

All that shit NEEDS to be processed for the good of the community...it hurts us all, the ignorance of the many..This is why there is no unity, there is no love..there is only dollar signs gleeming in the eyes of greedy polititcian and buisness men in this society..but the problem is not "out there" at all..it's all "in there"..in my opinion, entheogens are healing, society is toxic.

edit..I started a thread yesterday over at the edot forums basically about the same thing...the first part of the post is a trip report, but some good discussion on this same topic..http://www.entheogen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24221
 
Fractal Enchantment >> I read your other post, and I'm definitely on the same level with you regarding the programming. I don't have a tv in my living room, and have lived without cable for 5 years now. I just decided once I moved out of my parents house that tv made me feel bad (anxious, angry, afraid, etc) and that I was happier without it. BuY! FEAR, BUY! FEAR! It's just too much.

That's why I suggest that we reclaim symbolism, and surround ourselves with symbols of our own making rather than having the symbols of consumer culture imposed upon us. I always tell people that the reason why grafitti is so subversive is because it allows the individual to take control of their environment. The primary environment of our daily experiences is often media. We walk through a mediascape. I'm not even just talking about advertising, but also the unspoken rules of behavior shaped by architecture and building design (think of the velvet ropes at the bank or theme parks and how they shape our behavior, or cathedral-like malls).

Yes, the programming goes deep, and we must first reprogram ourselves.
 
I agree with most of the discussion about how psychedelics are not for everyone.

But I am going to have to chime in and say I think trying to act like the psychedelic drug culture is somehow more mystical and holy then not just other drug cultures but society in general is somewhat of the wrong attitude. This is just my opinion but personally I don't really use psychedelics for spiritual purposes. I use them for recreational psychological and creative purposes. One of my favorite things is to go take acid and dance all night drink smoke and essentially "party" all night. I don't see partying and going wild as a bad thing. For me its much more enjoyable then sitting around in a room with a candle meditating. Of course I don't like doing that with all substances but yea I don't look down on people who just want to party at all.

Also I think by trying to project a holier (i know its a bad word but i can't think of another) image is in a way a bit self righteous. I also feel like its trying to give in to society to project an image which is appropriate in societies mind. Why did Tim Leary fail? Because people were running around naked having orgies? No it was because society didn't like seeing people running around naked having orgies. If society only saw the people sitting around meditating with candles would they have thought psychedelics acceptable? Or only scientists using them would be acceptable? I think these are all cop outs. Its our right to use any substance we want for whatever purpose we want and no one can tell us otherwise. Thats my opinion on the matter anyway. Its like how the medical marijuana movement pretends to only be about medicine when in reality people just want to smoke.
 
While you bring up a good point, burnt, that last statement is a pretty shitty thing to say. The MMJ movement is not out there just so people can legally smoke recreationally. Those who take advantage of it are the 'pretenders', whos abuse of the system harms the movement itself, but there are those who can (and should) truly use it as 'medicine'. Would you say most of those prescribed to painkillers (not the best analogy, but...) are just putting up a front so they can get fucked up? I certainly wouldn't say so in every case.
 
Right on! I like to drop acid and eat muchrooms and dance all night long too...actually I will be at rave all this weekend doing just that!!

But i dont think that would qualify us as somehow less responciple or anything..I dont want to say that we should all sit around and meditate when we take psychedelics..some are even better off when used socially I think. But its the people that make the situation what it is as well, what makes the culture. It's about how you carry you're self in part, whatever the situation..it's also about just being free to explore..I kinda dont like the workd spirtuality, mostly becasue it seems to imply that maybe I have spirit but you dont? kinda thing..you know? we are all here. We are all curious. All of this entheogenic/shamanic/spiritual/philisophical stuff really at the core jsut stems out from pure curiousity and the desire to grow in ANY direction.
 
I also think there is a distinction between realizing the level of programming going on, and seeing how it is effecting us ALL..and thinking that you are somehow unltimatily above all that programming, thus essentially disassociating you're self from any responcibily in the matters that face us.

I think that most of us here know that we are all embedded in it. Noone is above anyone. Noone is higher than anyone. Just becasue you realize the conditions of our society, does not mean that you have LEFT those conditions..or are even completely free of the programming.. There is no magic word that instantly makes it all good. That part obviousily takes time, and it's on all of our shoulders.
 
^^Yes I guess what I was saying is I think its important to avoid a holy then thou attitude. I am sure that's not what is intended but its important to keep aware that these attitudes can arise not even on purpose. I look at some ayahuasca cults and think they do just that.

The MMJ movement is not out there just so people can legally smoke recreationally.

Yea what I meant is there are those who are using it for that purpose. People abusing medical marijuana laws happens all the time. Anyway don't want to veer off topic.
 
burnt said:
^^Yes I guess what I was saying is I think its important to avoid a holy then thou attitude. I am sure that's not what is intended but its important to keep aware that these attitudes can arise not even on purpose. I look at some ayahuasca cults and think they do just that.

Point well taken. I have no problem with people tripping "for fun". I think that getting masses of people together and having them all dose and party is fucking awesome. The psychedelic experience is often a joyous thing! Hell I'm gonna smoke a deemster right in the middle of shpongle next saturday night!

Sometimes I wanna trip face and just have a good time. But other times I want to sit and meditate. And I find it frustrating that group trips seem to only want to be for fun, and that nobody wants to have a serious spiritual trip in a group. I mean, I want to trip with my friends, but sometimes our styles and intentions just don't align.

I think that it's important for like minded people to make a space where they can get together and explore in ways that work for them as a group and as individuals. I'm certainly against trying to solidify any kind of dogma; ideally eclectic beliefs and practices can come together and coexist in a sort of Meta-Paradigm.

And quite frankly, having "respectable" representatives of the psychedelic community is the only way to end the current persecution of drug users. People are cool with the aya churches because they sit around, light candles, sing, and vomit they're guts out! They don't sit around in black lights smoking pot and listening to techno. And even though you might have just as spiritual of an experience in the black lights and whatnot, people aren't going to take you seriously or respect your experience.

If a person knew nothing about burning man and the first media they encountered from it was a lecture from the Playa from someone like Pinchbeck (who I'm not a fan of, BTW), they're going to come away with a VERY different impression of Burning Man than if they were to see a video of people running around naked and having orgies. The thing is that both of those things are a part of what Burning Man is, but of course lectures are boring and naked people are sensational and scandalous... I'm not really sure what my point was here, but I think you get what I'm talking about...

I also should mention that I feel that there is definitely something about DMT that sets it apart. DMT is certainly for the most intrepid explorers. I was telling my friend the other day, "Man, you have to be a real fucking FREAK to enjoy smoking DMT!" We have to acknowledge that DMT use is a fast growing trend, specifically because of forums like this and the current legality of the plants. This is going to shape psychedelic culture drastically, just like the increase in cubensis cultivation, and so we should be mindful of how this influence is cultivated. That is why I'm suggesting an intensely deliberate creation of culture by the creative leaders in our community.
 
And quite frankly, having "respectable" representatives of the psychedelic community is the only way to end the current persecution of drug users. People are cool with the aya churches because they sit around, light candles, sing, and vomit they're guts out! They don't sit around in black lights smoking pot and listening to techno. And even though you might have just as spiritual of an experience in the black lights and whatnot, people aren't going to take you seriously or respect your experience.

You hit it dead on! That is the difference between the USER showing respect to the drug versus just treating it like a party drug.

Now I can't see anything wrong with smoking Cannabis with black lights and techno (people do it with alcohol all the time) however... The respect and reverence that the Ayahuasca user displays is far more OBVIOUS than that of the Cannabis smoker in such a setting. I advocate responsible entheogen use.

This is one of the reasons I think botanicals should be legal and drugs illegal.

If a person knew nothing about burning man and the first media they encountered from it was a lecture from the Playa from someone like Pinchbeck

God, how I hate Pinchbeck. Don't read his trash!

That is why I'm suggesting an intensely deliberate creation of culture by the creative leaders in our community.

Welcome to Teotzlcoatl.
 
I'm on board for the spawning of culture. I'm about to start cultivating my own botanicals. I'm also kind of with Burnt in that I don't use entheogens in a religious or spiritual manner. But I do not mind if people use them for that either. Just keep in mind that psychedelics have had such a positive influence on America. The way it has influenced music(Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Grateful Dead, ect), art, literature(One flew over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey), and science. The positive impacts of psychedelics is undeniable. The negativity stems from the government testing of psychedelics. This government testing is the basis of what is taught in psychology classes about psychedelics all over the nation. I got in a discussion with a girl who took a college psychology class and there was no getting anywhere. According to her, if you take psychedelics for long enough you will go nuts. Frustrating.

We will start seeing the fruits of the flower children's labor soon. MJ will be legalized in California sooner than later. Of that I am confident. Yes, society is sick, psychedelics made it alot healthier 40 years ago. Psychedelics fueled a counter culture which challenged convential institutions. Psychedelics fuel a life style that was based on being different for the sake of being different. I feign to think what America would be like right now if LSD had never swept over the nation. I still believe that psychedelics still have unlimited potential to heal the illnesses of society.
 
You hit it dead on! That is the difference between the USER showing respect to the drug versus just treating it like a party drug.

How can you judge people like that? Just because some people prefer to take psychedelics while smoking pot listening to techno in their basements with black lights as opposed to those sitting in a circle in a wig warm chanting doesn't mean they don't have respect for the substance's they are taking. This is what I mean but the 'holier then thou' attitude. Just because westerners don't put some feathers on their heads and dance around a fire chanting doesn't they don't have respect for the power of these substances. The entire ritual set up for traditional ayahuasca ceremonies has the EXACT SAME purpose as black lights and techno for others. Its to make a comfortable or conducive environment to experience an altered state of consciousness. Just because one culture has been doing it longer doesn't mean their way is better or worse.

I think ayahuasca churches or other groups that use these substances are in some cases actively brainwashing people into believing in their 'gods' or accepting their culture as the 'true path'. Shamans can be just as stuck in dogmatic belief systems as those in a modern day churches. Not all of them are like that though.

This is one of the reasons I think botanicals should be legal and drugs illegal.

What about sythetic medicine that saves lives should that also be illegal? Its a man made drug. Where do you draw the line between recreation and medicine? You over simplify everything and look at it only from your point of view by painting everything in black and white.

Sometimes I wanna trip face and just have a good time. But other times I want to sit and meditate. And I find it frustrating that group trips seem to only want to be for fun, and that nobody wants to have a serious spiritual trip in a group. I mean, I want to trip with my friends, but sometimes our styles and intentions just don't align.

I think that it's important for like minded people to make a space where they can get together and explore in ways that work for them as a group and as individuals. I'm certainly against trying to solidify any kind of dogma; ideally eclectic beliefs and practices can come together and coexist in a sort of Meta-Paradigm.

Yea I understand what you mean. I also sometimes want to make more serious explorations not for spiritual reasons more for psychological or scientific reasons. Sometimes people SWIM would trip with would get annoying about stuff like this but SWIM used to have a really good trip crew so didn't see it as a problem. Avoiding dogma is CRITICAL for a culture like this to reach its full potential.

And quite frankly, having "respectable" representatives of the psychedelic community is the only way to end the current persecution of drug users. People are cool with the aya churches because they sit around, light candles, sing, and vomit they're guts out! They don't sit around in black lights smoking pot and listening to techno. And even though you might have just as spiritual of an experience in the black lights and whatnot, people aren't going to take you seriously or respect your experience.

Yes its important to have respectable members to try and show that psychedelic users aren't all a bunch of hedonistic hippies or something. But again I think its BS that people are fine with ayahuasca churches who in my opinion are actively brainwashing people (even if it makes their communities better off its still based on what I consider lies much like the christian churches) but not fine with people sitting in their basement listening to techno.

Its a cop out to accept people who use drugs in a way that others consider responsible in this case a religious setting while others who use it in another setting are considered wrong or irresponsible. It makes no sense to me. It also shows the weakness of the drug legalization argument. Drugs should be legal for one reason which I already said above. Its about freedom. Standing down and accepting things that are traditional or spiritual as the only forms of acceptable drug use is hypocritical unfair and a complete failure for true freedom.
 
burnt said:
You hit it dead on! That is the difference between the USER showing respect to the drug versus just treating it like a party drug.

How can you judge people like that? Just because some people prefer to take psychedelics while smoking pot listening to techno in their basements with black lights as opposed to those sitting in a circle in a wig warm chanting doesn't mean they don't have respect for the substance's they are taking. This is what I mean but the 'holier then thou' attitude.

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Avoiding dogma is CRITICAL for a culture like this to reach its full potential.

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Yes its important to have respectable members to try and show that psychedelic users aren't all a bunch of hedonistic hippies or something. But again I think its BS that people are fine with ayahuasca churches who in my opinion are actively brainwashing people (even if it makes their communities better off its still based on what I consider lies much like the christian churches) but not fine with people sitting in their basement listening to techno.

Its a cop out to accept people who use drugs in a way that others consider responsible in this case a religious setting while others who use it in another setting are considered wrong or irresponsible. It makes no sense to me. It also shows the weakness of the drug legalization argument. Drugs should be legal for one reason which I already said above. Its about freedom. Standing down and accepting things that are traditional or spiritual as the only forms of acceptable drug use is hypocritical unfair and a complete failure for true freedom.

OK, the things about the black lights and techno. I definitely agree that candles and blacklights are just arbitrary setting factors, intended only to create an ambiance. But I think that you CAN divide trippers into two categories, those focused on the outward, external experience (ie. "Whoa dude, the walls are bleeding! I'm tripping face!") versus those who focus on the inward experience (ie. "I sat in silent darkness and contacted the hive-mind!"). Of course this is really a continuum, but I'm using the extreme ends of that continuum only as examples.

I personally think that a focus on external objects, visuals, etc, is indicative of immaturity. After you've tripped enough times, visuals become very unimpressive and even boring. Ignoring the inner realms also leads to the lack of insight, not because it's not there, but because people just get distracted by self induced sensory overload.

Not that there aren't wonderful experiences to be had in OEV's. Often the "external world" is a conduit, or medium for the "inner world" to express itself. But it's really a whole different experience when you turn your attention totally inward. You'll be really surprised if you ask around to people who trip, "When you were tripping, have you ever just laid down and close your eyes?" and most people will say no. They were watching little Nemo, or texting their friends, or whatever, but the last thing most people want to do is look deep, DEEP inside themselves. It usually makes somebody feel totally vulnerable and ashamed and depressed and instead of facing it they distract themselves with blacklights and techno and pot, or whatev.

I've personally explored the darkest most evil parts of my psyche and have come out much stronger because of it. I've learned to embrace the often terrifying and morbid aspects of tripping because I know that the experience is part of something "larger" and more important than just checking out the cool colors and trails.
 
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