OneIsEros
Rising Star
So, I made an acacia-rue brew (4 grams syrian rue boiled and 10 grams shredded acacia cold water extracted) and took it with a friend from Brazil last week, who has tripped a handful of times in traditional contexts in Brazil. He told me the dose was about as strong as what he had taken in Brazil with the Santo Daime and another group whose name he did not mention.
(pats self on back)
HOWEVER - he then told me that these groups offer a SECOND dose equal to or greater than the first initial dose, 2 to 2.5 hours after taking the initial dose.
He told me that after taking this second dose, is when all the crazy trips you usually hear about ayahuasca happens. Spirits from the forest coming out and talking to you, out of body visions, etc.
It's like when I took a genuine 300 ug LSD tab for the first time, and realized, "oh, THIS is why LSD has such a reputation - because back in the 60's tabs were NORMALLY dosed this insanely". Hahaha. I had always found ayahuasca so lucid! Sure, I tripped balls on it, but it was the most clear headed experience I'd ever had, right after acid! I always thought those shamans were just drum/song wizards who were insanely skilled at vaulting people into higher dimensions. I still totally believe in their craft! But, I also now see why people come back from South America with these insane stories, lololol. Massssssive doses.
I'm going to try this at some point this summer!
Has anyone done this / does anyone normally do this, when ingesting their brew?
Does anyone know why they might be taking a second dose, rather than simply taking one massive dose from the get-go?
******Update:
I did this, I forgot I posted here saying I was going to do it. I almost got shell shocked from the onslaught of fractal energy. I ended up realizing I was going to be lying on my bed going in and out of consciousness unable to puke because I never puke on ayahuasca. My ears were ringing, my face was pale white. I was being shell shocked. It was intensely unpleasant and traumatizing.
So, I reached up to the sky, grabbed hold of the celestial energies, and dragged them down to earth. I was jumping and skipping around laughing after that.
Nobody I have ever met in my life (well, one guy, maybe) could do this. Moral of the story: Unless you are the kind of person who spends hours upon hours daily meditating and studying religious philosophy and has done multiple ten strip acid trips and similar doses of shrooms and does heroic doses of ayahuasca every week while sitting zazen not moving for hours journeying through visions, plus has high intuitive ability in working with psychedelics and other mystical states --- I highly advise you not take a second dose of ayahuasca.
It was the harmalas. It's not like taking a second dose of shrooms or acid. The harmalas multiply the effects exponentially.
(pats self on back)
HOWEVER - he then told me that these groups offer a SECOND dose equal to or greater than the first initial dose, 2 to 2.5 hours after taking the initial dose.
He told me that after taking this second dose, is when all the crazy trips you usually hear about ayahuasca happens. Spirits from the forest coming out and talking to you, out of body visions, etc.
It's like when I took a genuine 300 ug LSD tab for the first time, and realized, "oh, THIS is why LSD has such a reputation - because back in the 60's tabs were NORMALLY dosed this insanely". Hahaha. I had always found ayahuasca so lucid! Sure, I tripped balls on it, but it was the most clear headed experience I'd ever had, right after acid! I always thought those shamans were just drum/song wizards who were insanely skilled at vaulting people into higher dimensions. I still totally believe in their craft! But, I also now see why people come back from South America with these insane stories, lololol. Massssssive doses.
I'm going to try this at some point this summer!
Has anyone done this / does anyone normally do this, when ingesting their brew?
Does anyone know why they might be taking a second dose, rather than simply taking one massive dose from the get-go?
******Update:
I did this, I forgot I posted here saying I was going to do it. I almost got shell shocked from the onslaught of fractal energy. I ended up realizing I was going to be lying on my bed going in and out of consciousness unable to puke because I never puke on ayahuasca. My ears were ringing, my face was pale white. I was being shell shocked. It was intensely unpleasant and traumatizing.
So, I reached up to the sky, grabbed hold of the celestial energies, and dragged them down to earth. I was jumping and skipping around laughing after that.
Nobody I have ever met in my life (well, one guy, maybe) could do this. Moral of the story: Unless you are the kind of person who spends hours upon hours daily meditating and studying religious philosophy and has done multiple ten strip acid trips and similar doses of shrooms and does heroic doses of ayahuasca every week while sitting zazen not moving for hours journeying through visions, plus has high intuitive ability in working with psychedelics and other mystical states --- I highly advise you not take a second dose of ayahuasca.
It was the harmalas. It's not like taking a second dose of shrooms or acid. The harmalas multiply the effects exponentially.