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The first time I remembered the future as the past in a synaesthestic present

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synchroneyes

synchroneyes

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Dear Nexians,

Now:
I am excited to your community of like minds...?

I am not sure how much detail is approriate, so i will try to be brief where I can regarding my first time.

T-(minus)29 years: from birth to inhaling.
I have always had spice like experiences throughout my childhood and teenage years and was well prepared for the expeirence when it occurred.
T-10 years:
My relationship with it first began late 80's I began researching and developing a relationship with it. It was a further 10 years till I was to inhale. Every thought I have ever had about it was to produced an effect when I inhaled and relaxed.

T-0 years:
My Friend had brought some around, a few weeks before Terrence McKenna was due to visit. I was to meet up with him for a rave on time (As I had been developing a practical unified time thesis). I had waited nearly 10 years for that too,,, so I was glad that my friend surprised me with a session, at home in a peaceful setting.

Then:
I sat upright against a mezzanne post near the middle of the room. Soft trace music was in the back ground as my 3 friends offered advice and suggestions.

Old mate passed the glass pipe and a deja-vu began to envelope the back of my head. I knew this moment so well. I had been here so many times, I was in a nexus in my time line, a place where all thoughts and fantasies were converging... OMG!
My hands knew what to do.....
I expelled the air I held and proceeded to draw.

0 seconds.....
How smooth it was to receive and allow to linger and penetrate my red life filled blood.
I had enjoyed Nitrous Oxide many times in the past and a first i remember feeling a similar withdrawal to the rear of my mind. I backward tunnelling of echoes and focus.
+3 seconds.....
The deja-vu continued, as i began to exhale. It was this at this moment I was to learn that every even subliminal encounter i had ever experience regarding spice I was to be relived. All forms of my spice meme funnelled into the void as I stretched and descended through the threshold.
+6, 6.5, 7, 7.3, 7.6, ,8.......seconds:
.At this point time is distending exponentially....(talk about this again in a laterpost)
My experience of life was changing forever..... I waited for my heart to beat again....
All my tensions were arisen as I recognised the fabric of my high speed out of control tunnelling environment was made from my own personalised pains. I was moving through a tunnel of thousands of screaming real life hyper time selves (separate moments of real life synchronised as a fractured pattern giving dimension and release).

+10-25 seconds:
I was living my own personalised hell. I had seen it so many times before as glimpses and glances from the witnesses perspective.
My Old mate mentioned "remember you want to be here...."
I took this as a great positive message of my conscious choice being the agent of change and I am free........

Being free in hell wasn't so bad after all.... in fact it was amazing as a stream of 4 blue lines formed at the poles on a red based background as I moved into the vast pastel fractal like space scape, the centre of which was a super hot red colour.

+25-40 seconds:
My consciousness relaxed and I began observing my inner location. It was visually like moving toward the centre of a series of giant red multi layered flattened planes. Many association began to present themselves from various locations in the planes. I however gently rejected idenitfying with them and simply passed my gaze back toward the ever changing centre.

+40-1:10 minutes
I noticed a red stone which when focused upon opened into a Mayan Jungle scape with no floor. I met with 3 priest who directed me to a podium to sigh in from. I noticed their architects working and opened my eyes to speak.

+1:10-3:00 minutes
I spoke to the group and observed their bodies which appeared to be made from tiny hyper dimensional cubes, I continued with body observations and listening tests. Every thing I could see i could taste or smell, all the sounds from the soft music were full of direction moving taste structures. Words had flavours and some were truly bad tasting. I realised the likeness with childhood prior to the solidification of the senses.

+3:00-12:00 minutes
I closed my eyes again and found myself in a blue world of vertical planes which 9 bridges to cross over the infinite void.
I flew up to the top level a began to cross as i noticed a doorway on the other side....

+3 days
I had very powerful integrative dreams, which were nearly as strong as the main event.
I will save it for another post.

Now:+12 years
Great and strange to relive the experience by writing about it.
I look forward to hearing and discussing ideas regarding time consciousness and spice lore.
Looking back from this present perspective it seems like only moments ago that i was thinking those thoughts and holding the pipe for the first time.
I bet it the same for you?
 
..wicked! a Time Lord nexian...welcome,

do you think?: Time=Consciousness, (as opposed to the often used Light=Awareness 'mental formula'?

what importance do you place on specific colours experienced as you described?

see u around...
 
The following is just a hunch:

I'm not familiar with "Time consciousness" and spice lore other than to say we remember everything subconsciously. In my brain (While I took DMT) I remember seeing multiple versions of myself like multiple slices of perspectives of my past self sealed up in access points that were sound activated portions of my brain. It was like the spiral I saw inside my own head represented a backward enclave of time going further back in time to the root of self at the beginning of the spiral which was also from which subconscious (consciousness) began. It seems time distortions perceived through neurological activity are relative in a way to infer that the more a mind is evolving, moving, changing the perception of time passage increases so if the brain is changing rather fast like while taking DMT, then time dilation occurs where time stretches and this is perceived by the conscious mind of the person taking the substance, but not those around them. I would like your input. =)
 
Dear Blacklist666

Great to hear from you.

I agree that time dilation seems relative to the speed of cognition (except for the witness that perceive the dilation effect upon itself). If the processing capacity of our minds is speed up, more within the observable moments are presented for inspection, which in tern dilates the events perceived duration. As the mind sees more within the moment so the moments increase and appear to extend. This happens every time I(we) have a car accident...lol. As my higher self realises the danger of the impending danger it kicks into hyperdrive to give me the best chance of making a sound choice from my situation.
However my witness is not entrained by my extended perceptions.

It seems reasonable to suggest at this point that there is a cross over of perceptual perspectives that appear as hyper awareness in time. It is known that left brain (mentality) can only perceive the environment as pieces. In sequences and in a linear fashion using the components of language. All aspects are divided and named.
Our right brain however perceives in wholes and in non verbal methods. Many aspect of right brain genius are misunderstood by "the left brain dominate world view".
Perhaps what is happening is the left brain is speeding up to see more integers within the moment, yet the right brain holds space by perceiving time from it's natural constant present tense. Therefore creating awareness of the difference in perception from usual.

cool to rave about it with you.
speak about it again soon.
 
I still make references using the terminology left brain / right brain. The more scientists have looked at it, the less they are sure about consciousness being divided between both halves as much as ( I ) would like to believe it, and the more they are finding consciousness is everywhere. Not so much in that saying that they can register electrical output on a screen to see which regions are stimulated under different circumstances the volunteer is under, or tasks they are performing. I am not trying to say one way is right or wrong. Remembering how many times scientists scrap their brain map models; it really does make being alive exciting in this age where we still don't know so much! I was wondering if you have researched the "sigma" portion of the brain?

Article Covering Consciousness Stretched Out All Over Even When One Is Put Under With Drugs:
healthland.time.com

Real-Time Video: First Look at a Brain Losing Consciousness Under Anesthesia | TIME.com

What happens to your brain as it slips into unconsciousness? A new technique allows researchers to view real-time 3-D images of a patient undergoing anesthesia using the drug propofol, and the findings show that consciousness isn't suddenly switched off, but rather fades as though a dimmer is...
healthland.time.com

How Subjective Time Relates to Neural Time
www.jneurosci.org

Time and the Brain: How Subjective Time Relates to Neural Time

Most of the actions our brains perform on a daily basis, such as perceiving, speaking, and driving a car, require timing on the scale of tens to hundreds of milliseconds. New discoveries in psychophysics, electrophysiology, imaging, and computational modeling are contributing to an emerging...
www.jneurosci.org www.jneurosci.org

Time-Keeping Brain Neurons

I hope this is on Topic. Once I discover more about time, I will post to here and share my findings! =)
 
Thanks for your efforts blacklist666

I agree with your objection that the left/right brain activity is not as clear as science would have it. We both know and can agree that the brain adapts to circumstances and all brains differ.
But my point is that only the left brain centres are able to articulate perception in words and language. Therefore describe time in a usual sense.
I believe humanity is recovering from a seriously linear outlook that has focused too much on details with no vision. I see this as an unconscious effects of literacy education through western culture.(which patterned all subsequent minds of Europe and the modern world.
Regarding time measurement and display. Each society developed a system that suited their own physical situations. Each calendrical system offered a skill set to it's location. Each a way to live in accordance with their environments. None of these were ever developed for a whole Earth at this particular present.
I feel an urgent we need to reinterpret time conceptually. Both personally and collectively.

All these Nexian horonaughts(time travellers) might help though,
thanks for your thoughtful feedback
I look forward to chatting with you again in the presented future.
 
You are a fascinating person! I would love to chat over the phone some time at length. I can really trip out about time myself, but you did threefold. Put it eloquently, said it better than I could have, and said it in a way I have never heard before! I agree with everything you're saying whole heartedly! My few personal friends and myself have had in depth conversations over the topics of time. I will reminisce upon these, and get back to you in a few day all in good time. The reason is the wording has to be just right, and it has been some time since I have met someone with such an interest! Allot of what I know about time is more instinctual awareness of how it work that are from before I was incarnate.

A Quote comes to mind goes something like this: You have to "hear" the silence, to listen without words for the mind truly speaks without words or symbols.

For some reason upon the topic of "time", this thought process (behind the poem) came to mind as a good point to recall from. (access point for remembering)

Instead of looking at time as cylindrical, pyramidal, or spiral in nature (opposed to linear) I look at it as muti-dimensionally.

Always a pleasure chatting with you on this forum. Respectfully so, I'll check back later and post my findings! =)
 
Dear Nen888

thanks for asking about the time=consciousness and the colours seen within my first journey.
I will reply to the colour part as I am an artist and feel a very strong affinity with the colour changes i perceived.
As stated the journey initially started with a base colour scheme in the red wavelengths. I passed through a green section where I spoke with Mayans priests then it all changed into a series of blue vertical fields.
The colours seemed to go through sequential changes as i metabolised the spice.
It seemed to me during the event that the colours were following the path of my blood as the spice travelled through my body.
The red oxygenated blood was eventually spent and returned as blue blood through my veins. The green may have been the free time to involve myself?

there were many other full colour paths to the story but this has always interested me whether others also experience colour values changing in a similar way.
do colours make a difference to your trips, do colours sometimes sequentially change for you also?
 
Forgive me for being too spacey to read this thread. I have found large bodies of text very hard to read after eating Iboga last sunday. I did however want to come in and say I really loved the thread title :) I giggled a little bit at how awesome it is. Welcome to the Nexus!
 
Thanks for your comments and welcoming me to the site.
I have already felt the connections and the love....
Nice to know we are all in the same boat.

I have some fun ideas to discuss down the track....
There should be a few good giggles for you in store.

Hows was your iboga experience?
I would love to read an outline of your experience, if you feel it useful.
have a create day/night
 
..time lords,

i suppose i was wondering how it is possible to perceive multiple time rates without some part of consciousness being external or relative.

i am dividing perceived phenomena (as a thought exercise) into 2 parts:
Consciousness (the 'roller-rink'/skate park of reality) & Awareness (the ball rolling around the rink).
Experience (the 3rd principle) arises as a field out of the interaction of these 2 parts.
you could also imagine Consc./Aware. as opposite poles of an"Unconscious/Conscious" Dynamic (using more common languauge)

the Awareness (like the photon) would be timeless unto intself (or from it's perspective). always the 'now'...

when you repair your TARDISes hope you have time for a comment.

ps. god knows what gravity is..!
 
This is rather random but somewhat on the topic of the split brain...
I was reading this post when I felt the urge to take a small hit of dmt and meditate. When I did I felt a strong polarization of my energies in the body, which I've been feeling a lot lately in my daily life.

I believe there are two major channels in the body, left being meditative, right being more physical energy.
I've heard the left brain controls the right side of the body, and vice versa. (correct me if I'm wrong this is a random piece of info I feel I heard quite a while ago.)

This makes sense with the left hand side being the literal, very grounded in reality (making the "physical" energy.) and the right hand part of the brain (making the meditative type energy.)
Now I'm in no way a time-lord (although I've begun to see how meaningful ever moment in life can be if I'm tuned into the conscious and striving to experience eternity in the moment, essentially removing that aspect of time that awareness has, but of course I'm still aware, it just cuts out the perspective that time is only linear) but I see an interesting parallel here with one part of the body being literal, and the other more abstract, same with synchroneyes' ideas on how the hemispheres might play a part in perceiving time.

An interesting note about the energies, is that on the way to a kundalini awakening these two channels balance out, but in daily life (in a stable body) there supposed to switch every 90 minutes. I find that my most sucessful meditations occur after I consciously try to balance them as well, so it suggests to me that the balance between the two is the key in understanding how we interpret time.
 
@Nen

What a tricky series of questions...j/k.
It is possible to perceive multiple time frames from within the self, If fact we are doing it all the time everyday in normal states of awareness, without being aware of it.
However being conscious of these differing rates of perception is rather more challenging. However still normal.
This effect is achieved by the differing rates of perception of the various senses.
For example the amount of processing to be able to recognise sighted objects is far more costly compared to directional hearing.
To see any given object a large number of processes are required. Cones and rods matching the corresponding wavelengths of light bouncing off the object to our eyes (600 nanameters for reds, 430 nanameters for blues) fire signals from the retina, via the optic nerve to the back of the back of the brain where the visual processing centres are located. This is sorted to a large number of regions that attempt to catagorise various components matching the object being sought. Distance, Tone. Hue, Chroma, Size, Shape, context etc are processed before we know we are seeing it.
Because the eyes are so close to the brain centres needed, all this a happens very quickly, less than 1/10th of a second.
However compared to directional hearing which is the most finely temporally turned sense. The minute different intervals between the arrival of sound waves between each ear, allows us to perceive where the sound came from. This tuning is so fine that we can define the difference to around 1/10,000th of a second.
Defining what was heard takes more time again, but is still far quicker that sight, around 1/1000th as rhythm and 1/100 as tones.

We can therefore understand why differing rates of the sensory perception can distort of diverge at times.
The mind attempts to correct these misgivings by slowing down the rates of information of the finer senses by delaying their outputs.
Think of when the starters gun goes off, how the runners sometimes seem to hover motionless at the start (after the gun has gone off). This is because we have already heard the gun, but time is taken to also see it, then synchronise it.



As for the question requiring or nor requiring an external reference. It is a great question but how do we separate ourselves from this external environment. How could we ever not be part of a greater field of reference?
Existing as beings within this environment, seems to always imply a external reference for time to be gauged from.

Humans are not so great a measuring time internally. Separated from the rhythms of the light cycles, our cicadian rhythms can be distorted by up to 2 hours.
We will have to discuss this aspect another day
that is why we stated using clocks....lol

I will have to get back to you regarding your other interesting questions.
Could you see if you could re-phrase them? Consciousness v's Awareness?

till the next is present is opened.
 
..i like your thinking, syncroneyes.

as to 'external to the system' (maybe what the Gnostics called the Source..."alien" in the absolute meaning) i will meditate on it and get back to you...

your description still largely fits into a biochemical model, so i wonder why such processes would not have equivalence or relation to
atomic, quantum and string(M) levels of scale. surely the entire system is coherent ?

..the 3rd principle is neither of the other 2, and therefore perhaps external..

thank you for your thoughtfulness
 
Dear Distracted

Great to hear your thoughts on the topic and I am very glad it inspired you to inquire with spice.
I think we are running along similar lines, regarding your energetic description.

Your thoughts about hemisphere bias is basically true.
All the lateral attributes of the body are flipped to the opposite side in the brain. Except for our sense of smell.
I think the usual brains set up is a bit like right handedness, which a large majority of persons have, around 80-90%. Ambidexterity is exceptionally rare, so if you are right handed you would be spot on.

When reading the "polarisation" effect you mentioned, it made me flash to an image of your electric body, flowing in and out at the same time.
I feel your meditation method is right on.

I have experienced stages (weeks) mainly in my twenties, usually after revelations, where I felt I was able to fully access those eternal moments.
During those periods all actions and reactions seemed whole. The moment held all paradox in the context. Eternity is everything at once. All forms of livng that had ever lived, had lived in this present tense. Being asleep was as involving and easy to remember as waking life, but with less mental boundaries .... But there was also no cross overline between the two ?

It lasted for weeks as I said.
later when it happen again,
I saw time as the then current image of the earth in relation to the solar system. Night and day, hell and heaven all at once. As I scaled up I realised the earth has only one day, we were the sun and saw it only turning.
To light time is arbitrary.
Any thought about another time blocked this. A separation from the present.
Future wants and Past needs.
I felt causes or actions were reflective desires, and effects and reactions projective desires. This desire or urge to seek novelty, to be altered from the present state of mind. This is what seemed to make us human, seeking balance....
Not being present... But imagining....
Now we have lost much of the art of being without definition. We have been dominated with separation complexes, pulling things to bits.
It seems natural for this imbalance to be dealt with somehow. With a search for a sense of wholeness.

We can learn to change time!
You are doing it.... we all are.
Attention and controlled pacing of bodily movements definitely magnify own awareness of time, eg. Tai 'Chi, meditation, dance, sport, sex.

good one
Love to talk about it again mate.
 
Dear Nen888

I too am sure the system is coherent.
I will take your lead and also meditate on your ideas.

presently....
 
@nen888

Regarding the term "time lord"
We are all TIME LORDS when we want to be.
But thanks for the tag.
I am excited by our ability to alter our perception of time. As well as the possibility of transforming ourselves through a greater awareness of time's conceptual effect.
We are all time lords as we can all compress, fold or extend time... to some degree.
we are the ones currently experiencing it.
We are doing something about it right now in fact.

Horanaughts unite! (hora = time) +(naught + traveller?).....
Chrononaughts converge?
temporanaughts begin!

Timelords, does sound better though eh? lol
 
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