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The importance of breaking-through

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cero

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After the first few tentative steps exploring this molecule, i feel compelled to ask this question:

Is the DMT experience only about breaking-through?

If i compare the non-breakthrough DMT experience with mushrooms, DMT lacks the emotional and spiritual involvement mushrooms give me.

However, the very first hit i took from DMT altered reality so much more than mushrooms could ever do. It only lasted for 20 seconds or so, but it's ever so alluring.

The non-breakthrough DMT experience is too short to have a meaningful impact on me. The visuals are nice, but that is not enough.

Now, i realise that this molecule simply might not be my thing, but i would like to hear your experiences and opinion on this matter.
 
cero said:
After the first few tentative steps exploring this molecule, i feel compelled to ask this question:

Is the DMT experience only about breaking-through?

If i compare the non-breakthrough DMT experience with mushrooms, DMT lacks the emotional and spiritual involvement mushrooms give me.

However, the very first hit i took from DMT altered reality so much more than mushrooms could ever do. It only lasted for 20 seconds or so, but it's ever so alluring.

The non-breaktthrough DMT experience is too short to have a meaningful impact on me. The visuals are nice, but that is not enough.

Now, i realise that this molecule simply might not be my thing, but i would like to hear your experiences and opinion on this matter.


I basically agree with you. freebase DMT alone will never have the full magical experience that shrooms will. It's to short to get much work done. Yes if you take a full break through dose you will get more euphoria and reality will shift significantly more, but it is still only about 5 minutes.

I have a one word solution for you. It will change everything. It will likely turn your humble freebase DMT into the greatest psychedelic you have ever encountered.

CHANGA. <<-- Look it up and make it. It makes the experience last a good bit longer, bumps up the euphoria and slows the visions down. It's much more gentle. This way you can slowly work your way up to the exact psychedelic level you want to be at and you can extend the experience for hours if you want. If you overdo it there may be some nausea...
 
Do not miss out on what a low dose DMT has to offer for meditation and clarity of the mind and communication.
This is such a profound and tangible effect that the spice provides that I feel is often overlooked.
 
Have you tried oral DMT yet?
It's a perspective worth experiencing. It is similar to mushrooms yet uniquely different as well.
 
joedirt said:
CHANGA. <<-- Look it up and make it. It makes the experience last a good bit longer, bumps up the euphoria and slows the visions down. It's much more gentle. This way you can slowly work your way up to the exact psychedelic level you want to be at and you can extend the experience for hours if you want. If you overdo it there may be some nausea...

Couldn't agree more. With Changa you can keep re dosing at sub breakthrough levels, and after the peak, you get 10 mins or so of a very warm, blissful experience. If you are looking to "work" with the molecule, this is a great way.

I do think that it is the breakthrough that is the most important aspect however. Even if it is only 5-10 mins, I could spend a lifetime marvelling at what happens in that short time. It is truely humbling how powerful a breakthrough can be.
 
Thank you all for your replies.

joedirt CHANGA. <<-- Look it up and make it. It makes the experience last a good bit longer, bumps up the euphoria and slows the visions down. It's much more gentle. This way you can slowly work your way up to the exact psychedelic level you want to be at and you can extend the experience for hours if you want. If you overdo it there may be some nausea...

I have a few extractions to go and will set aside a good portion towards this goal. Working with a base pipe is somewhat of a chore, so i'll definitely make a batch of changa!

house Do not miss out on what a low dose DMT has to offer for meditation and clarity of the mind and communication.
This is such a profound and tangible effect that the spice provides that I feel is often overlooked.

I must admit that there's truth to this. The quiet, reflective quality of a low dose is something that should not be overlooked. I noticed that this afternoon riding through the fields and smoking the residue from the base pipe [which was obviously not that potent].

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alzabo Have you tried oral DMT yet?

I haven't. I guess that's step #3 after changa. I'm not sure though if purging is an aspect of oral DMT i'm fond of, at least, i assume it's part of it?

1664 I do think that it is the breakthrough that is the most important aspect however. Even if it is only 5-10 mins, I could spend a lifetime marvelling at what happens in that short time. It is truely humbling how powerful a breakthrough can be.

A lot has been said about breaking-through. It's the holy grail of DMT, or so it seems. The glimps i was granted the very first time was extraordinary, but what do you think happens when you break through?

P R Try Pharmahuasca.

In a later stage perhaps :)
 
cero said:
alzabo Have you tried oral DMT yet?

I haven't. I guess that's step #3 after changa. I'm not sure though if purging is an aspect of oral DMT i'm fond of, at least, i assume it's part of it?

P R Try Pharmahuasca.

In a later stage perhaps :)
I don't get any nausea using pharmahuasca. Mimosa tea will make you nauseous but since you already know how to extract DMT, you can use that with harmalas.
 
alzabo said:
cero said:
alzabo Have you tried oral DMT yet?

I haven't. I guess that's step #3 after changa. I'm not sure though if purging is an aspect of oral DMT i'm fond of, at least, i assume it's part of it?

P R Try Pharmahuasca.

In a later stage perhaps :)
I don't get any nausea using pharmahuasca. Mimosa tea will make you nauseous but since you already know how to extract DMT, you can use that with harmalas.

That's good to know alzabo, but i really don't want to get ahead of myself or use DMT and it's cousins too often. It's new and interesting but i can't approach this casually, i don't think that would be right for me.

Nevertheless, i do feel invigorated and connected afterwards, so i'm not done yet :d
 
cero said:
A lot has been said about breaking-through. It's the holy grail of DMT, or so it seems. The glimps i was granted the very first time was extraordinary, but what do you think happens when you break through?

Well that is the 64 thousand dollar question.
:d

I wouldn't call it a "holy grail", but it does represent a level of experience several orders of magnitude above sub breakthrough doses. It is truely staggering.
 
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