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Joedirt, it's just that the mind is too complex for us to even have the ability to understand all of its dynamics. But I don't feel any need to; I think we can have a general understanding of the way minds work that wouldn't exclude the meanings and importance of religions, but, in my view, their precision in portraying reality. Because they don't utilize scientific methods, each religion, when compared to others, is imprecise; that is, the religions are all hitting different spots around the mark. As a whole, though, they are accurate in that they cluster around the "truth." This truth is simply a oneness of being, a subjective understanding of one's place in the world, being in "a state of grace."

Religions are completely fine without the scientific method. They're like art's ultimate answers to the meaning of life; they use all the pictures in our minds, all the semblances of this life, this human and his experiences with his fellow beings, to answer, to the best of the ability of one with this foundation, the source and meaning and purpose of that life, this human, our foundation.

There are other ways of arriving at this ultimate self-understanding, and I believe beauty and love and acceptance of death are critical to those ways. Also important, and associated with science, is the realization that trying to understand everything is like trying to count to infinity. No real number is closer to infinity than any other real number.

Part of me believes, no, is almost sure, that corporations/governments/some very intelligent and rich assholes do not want us to know how our own minds really work. If everyone knew how (and why) their minds worked, they'd be able to make sense of their experiences and come to know beauty, love, and humility. There is a book called The Evolution of Consciousness, written a doctor who did 20 years of top-level brain research, in which he explains the mind (and its purpose) in such a clear, coherent, and logical way that I believe that to understand what he's saying is to be enlightened. I was blown away particularly by how it felt as if I was learning explicitly what I had felt implicitly during my DMT trip months before. This book is the GVG of understanding the mind. Unfortunately I lost it and must buy another one javascript:insertsmiley('%20','/forum/images/emoticons/icon_sad.gif'). But anyway, I think one of the reasons DMT is schedule I could be that they don't want anyone to diverge from the path carved out for them. How off topic am I? I've not even kept track of that, sorry. lol.

<blockquote data-quote="Dedalus" data-source="post: 3423740" data-attributes="member: 6032">Joedirt, it&#039;s just that the mind is too complex for us to even have the ability to understand all of its dynamics.&nbsp; But I don&#039;t feel any need to; I think we can have a general understanding of the way minds work that wouldn&#039;t exclude the meanings and importance of religions, but, in my view, their precision in portraying reality.&nbsp; Because they don&#039;t utilize scientific methods, each religion, when compared to others, is imprecise; that is, the religions are all hitting different spots around the mark.&nbsp; As a whole, though, they are accurate in that they cluster around the &quot;truth.&quot;&nbsp; This truth is simply a oneness of being, a subjective understanding of one&#039;s place in the world, being in &quot;a state of grace.&quot;Religions are completely fine without the scientific method.&nbsp; They&#039;re like art&#039;s ultimate answers to the meaning of life; they use all the pictures in our minds, all the semblances of this life, this human and his experiences with his fellow beings, to answer, to the best of the ability of one with this foundation, the source and meaning and purpose of that life, this human, our foundation.There are other ways of arriving at this ultimate self-understanding, and I believe beauty and love and acceptance of death are critical to those ways.&nbsp; Also important, and associated with science, is the realization that trying to understand everything is like trying to count to infinity.&nbsp; No real number is closer to infinity than any other real number.Part of me believes, no, is almost sure, that corporations/governments/some very intelligent and rich assholes do not want us to know how our own minds really work.&nbsp; If everyone knew how (and why) their minds worked, they&#039;d be able to make sense of their experiences and come to know beauty, love, and humility.&nbsp; There is a book called The Evolution of Consciousness, written a doctor who did 20 years of top-level brain research, in which he explains the mind (and its purpose) in such a clear, coherent, and logical way that I believe that to understand what he&#039;s saying is to be enlightened.&nbsp; I was blown away particularly by how it felt as if I was learning explicitly what I had felt implicitly during my DMT trip months before.&nbsp; This book is the GVG of understanding the mind.&nbsp; Unfortunately I lost it and must buy another one javascript:insertsmiley(&#039;<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />%20&#039;,&#039;/forum/images/emoticons/icon_sad.gif&#039;).&nbsp; But anyway, I think one of the reasons DMT is schedule I could be that they don&#039;t want anyone to diverge from the path carved out for them.&nbsp; How off topic am I?&nbsp; I&#039;ve not even kept track of that, sorry.&nbsp; lol.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dedalus, post: 3423740, member: 6032"] Joedirt, it's just that the mind is too complex for us to even have the ability to understand all of its dynamics. But I don't feel any need to; I think we can have a general understanding of the way minds work that wouldn't exclude the meanings and importance of religions, but, in my view, their precision in portraying reality. Because they don't utilize scientific methods, each religion, when compared to others, is imprecise; that is, the religions are all hitting different spots around the mark. As a whole, though, they are accurate in that they cluster around the "truth." This truth is simply a oneness of being, a subjective understanding of one's place in the world, being in "a state of grace." Religions are completely fine without the scientific method. They're like art's ultimate answers to the meaning of life; they use all the pictures in our minds, all the semblances of this life, this human and his experiences with his fellow beings, to answer, to the best of the ability of one with this foundation, the source and meaning and purpose of that life, this human, our foundation. There are other ways of arriving at this ultimate self-understanding, and I believe beauty and love and acceptance of death are critical to those ways. Also important, and associated with science, is the realization that trying to understand everything is like trying to count to infinity. No real number is closer to infinity than any other real number. Part of me believes, no, is almost sure, that corporations/governments/some very intelligent and rich assholes do not want us to know how our own minds really work. If everyone knew how (and why) their minds worked, they'd be able to make sense of their experiences and come to know beauty, love, and humility. There is a book called The Evolution of Consciousness, written a doctor who did 20 years of top-level brain research, in which he explains the mind (and its purpose) in such a clear, coherent, and logical way that I believe that to understand what he's saying is to be enlightened. I was blown away particularly by how it felt as if I was learning explicitly what I had felt implicitly during my DMT trip months before. This book is the GVG of understanding the mind. Unfortunately I lost it and must buy another one javascript:insertsmiley(':(%20','/forum/images/emoticons/icon_sad.gif'). But anyway, I think one of the reasons DMT is schedule I could be that they don't want anyone to diverge from the path carved out for them. How off topic am I? I've not even kept track of that, sorry. lol. [/QUOTE]