The meaning of DMT: A universal method of communication with ancestors and other life forms

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According to Terence McKenna's idea*, DMT could be a universal method of communication left for us by our ancestors. SWIM finds this theory plausible and worth of being considered.

If the engineers of our world and of us, human creatures, wanted us to call back home as soon as the creatures are ready for that, they would left a universal means of communication which can be used by everyone.

You do not have to be a professional chemist and you do not have to have an expensive equipment to extract DMT. It is not very hard to build a "communication device". The only thing you need is a certain level of trust and enlightenment. You need trust to believe that your subconscious is life ward and your body will continue breathing and the hart will keep on beating while you on the trip. And you need enlightenment that allows you to overcome that which is considered illegal/bad by the society/system. You must have a certain level of understanding of the system, or else you would not "do drugs" Last but not least, you must have enough decree to do the extraction.

Independent of the dose, SWIM does not always experience intense trips where he experiences an "overload" of hyper dimensional geometries, a guide, other beings dancing, presenting themselves or their world and a sort of communication. This is a very profound observation! SWIM can smoke a full dose (40 mg) of spice and stay in the physical reality, walking around his room, observing the matter dissolving and everything vibrating and changing. The most intense trip so far SWIM has experienced loading his bong with 20 mg spice and taking only two tokes leaving the most of the spice behind. Right before this trip, SWIM has formed the intention to go on an intense trip!

There is a book from 1996 by Barbara Marciniak "Bringers of the Dawn, Teachings from the Pleiadians" (attached here). Read the quotation from page 120 below! **


The conclusion with the presumption above: DMT puts you into the broadcast mode, allowing you to visit other worlds that exist independently of you (thus excluding the possibility that a DMT trip is just an imagination of yours). This experience teaches you in a demonstrative way with no language, no worlds - in contrast to argumentative way, used in books and human teachers in general. DMT helps you grow and understand your world with a depth far beyond one you could get from books and other humans in general.

Even the teachings of Abraham/Hicks, known also from the movie "The Secret", get an entirely new perspective with spice experience. The conclusion here is: they rarely use metaphors and/or figurative speech, although SWIM often tended to interpret the teaching this way. Teachers like Abraham are not to be interpreted; everything they say is to be taken literally!

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* Terence McKenna: "how to make contact with other beings"

previously posted here: SWIM is blown away by the pleiadian explanation of DMT experience - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

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** A quote from "Bringers of the Dawn, Teachings from the Pleiadians" by Barbara Marciniak

Many of you want to reach the higher realms and stay there, forgetting that your task is here on Earth. You must learn to stay grounded. The necessity of being grounded is something many of you do not understand. You will soon find out that if you move into greater and greater acceleration and you do not have grounds - things to connect you and pull the worlds into one you may have difficulty with your nervous systems. When frequency changes and more light comes into the body, the typical vehicle begins to receive much more data. Sometimes you get very bored living in your world, and you just want to come into data receptivity and forget about what you consider the mundane world. If you are not grounded, you will not have a way of allowing that information to enter your reality and be put to use. It could simply overload your system, or you could not be able to translate what you are getting and stay calm.
You need to balance many worlds at once. How do you do this? By intention, by practice, and by decree. Grounding allows worlds to merge and allows you to access many worlds. It allows you to feel surges of energy and then to direct these surges of energy where and when you need them - to become superhuman.

The audio book is available on YouTube:

By the way, how freaking esoteric must this book sound with no DMT experience?!?!

 

[Saidin]

Very interesting. I've been watching the video series on youtube, and there is a lot of good information in there.

Just got done with part 6, and they are talking about frequencies and vibrations, how we are receptors of information in ways we do not consciously understand. Lots of connection with the use of dmt, and how we become more perceptive of the wonders of the universe.

Some will find the information too esoteric, even after DMT use. For me DMT opened up my mind to new possibilities I was unable to consider before. It created a gateway of understanding and a desire to question. Much of this information I have read and found elsewhere, but I never would have begun searching if not for the spirit molecule.

Thanks for sharing this.

 

[clouds]

Same things have seen said about mushrooms, peyote, salvia, ibogaine and more recently... 2CB.

 

[ismokecrystals]

Same things have seen said about mushrooms, peyote, salvia, ibogaine and more recently... 2CB.

And the same goal can be reached without the use of any of those things. However, they do make it MUCH easier.

 

[clouds]

Same things have seen said about mushrooms, peyote, salvia, ibogaine and more recently... 2CB.

And the same goal can be reached without the use of any of those things. However, they do make it MUCH easier.

Sure there are many path to enlightenment and to understanding and communication with ancestors and love, etc.
But if the goal IS to hallucinate really hard and have astonishing visions... then pharmacology is the only way to go.

 

[Saidin]

But if the goal IS to hallucinate really hard and have astonishing visions... then pharmacology is the only way to go.

This can be accomplished with meditation as well. Pharmacology is just the shortcut.

 

[vovin]

I preferr to hold the view that a break thru experience is a exploration of my own subconcious mind. It doesnt make it any less significant. I am not saying that it cant be actual contact with extra dimensional beings. Heck If you get into quantum physics and M theory it is somewhat plausable but I preferr to err on the side of skepticism until I can attain enough information to justify such things.

 

[jamie]

But if the goal IS to hallucinate really hard and have astonishing visions... then pharmacology is the only way to go.

This can be accomplished with meditation as well. Pharmacology is just the shortcut.

I tend to disagree..I dont buy into the shorcut explanation..meditation and astral travel is not the same thing as entheogens, and entheogens are not the same as meditation and astral travl..not for me anyway..I have never meditated myself into a salvinorin experience or had the voice of the mushrooms speak to me in astral projection..and I have never taken DMT and felt like I was just having some sort of lucid dream etc..

To me thats like saying that going to mexio is like taking a shortcut to jamaica, simply becasue both can be tropical..or that eating food is a shortcut to nutrition. There are TONS of different psychedelis with all diff effects, effects that are specific to the interaction between them and the human brain..its not a "shortcut" at all..more like the only route.

Also, its all pharmacology either way, endogenous or not. If you rely on meditation you are still relying on something that changes brain chemistry.

 

[clouds]

But if the goal IS to hallucinate really hard and have astonishing visions... then pharmacology is the only way to go.

This can be accomplished with meditation as well. Pharmacology is just the shortcut.

Thank God for "shortcuts". I don't have freakin' time to waste.

 

[Seven]

But if the goal IS to hallucinate really hard and have astonishing visions... then pharmacology is the only way to go.

This can be accomplished with meditation as well. Pharmacology is just the shortcut.

Thank God for "shortcuts". I don't have freakin' time to waste.

Don't worry meditation is not wasting time at all. Its all about being in that golden moment and enjoying it fully.

I dont think entheogens are a shortcut though. They give us glimpses of the divine, or flashes of insight, but the real insight comes from a daily practice of some sort like meditation, where your continually cultivating that awareness of the divine, God, spirit, however you relate to it.

The teacher plants brought my consciousness to do meditation though, so I hold them as sacred divine teachers that deserve the utmost respect and reverence.

 

[Saidin]

But if the goal IS to hallucinate really hard and have astonishing visions... then pharmacology is the only way to go.

This can be accomplished with meditation as well. Pharmacology is just the shortcut.

I tend to disagree..I dont buy into the shorcut explanation..meditation and astral travel is not the same thing as entheogens, and entheogens are not the same as meditation and astral travl..not for me anyway..I have never meditated myself into a salvinorin experience or had the voice of the mushrooms speak to me in astral projection..and I have never taken DMT and felt like I was just having some sort of lucid dream etc..

Also, its all pharmacology either way, endogenous or not. If you rely on meditation you are still relying on something that changes brain chemistry.

My point was that one can have hallucinations and visions though meditation alone, and that the statement "pharmacology is the only way to go" was incorrect.

Yes you are relying on something that changes brain chemistry, your mind, which is not pharmacology...

Pharmacology - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Pharmacology (from Greek φάρμακον, pharmakon, "drug"; and -λογία, -logia) is the study of drug action.[1] More specifically, it is the study of the interactions that occur between a living organism and exogenous chemicals that alter normal biochemical function.

 

[jamie]

well okay, NEUROpharmacology then.

 

[clouds]

Saidin is correct. Pharmacology is not the only way to induce hallucinations, neuropharmacology is the only way (but that is redundant, since all perceptions are influenced by it). Meditation, sleep deprivation, schizophrenia and other things can be the cause of hallucinations. However, fractal enchantment is also correct when saying that each substance (DMT, Salvinorin, LSD, 4-HO-DMT) has a unique effect on the mind... and that those hallucinations are caused by the specific interaction between the brain and the substance.

Someone who is experienced in meditation can probably induce hallucinations this way... but I don't think he/she can go to "hyperspace" just by meditating.

Its worth mentioning that not everyone wants to meditate to induce hallucinations and that not everyone wants to take hallucinogens to be enlightened.

 

[Saidin]

Saidin is correct. Pharmacology is not the only way to induce hallucinations, neuropharmacology is the only way (but that is redundant, since all perceptions are influenced by it). Meditation, sleep deprivation, schizophrenia and other things can be the cause of hallucinations. However, fractal enchantment is also correct when saying that each substance (DMT, Salvinorin, LSD, 4-HO-DMT) has a unique effect on the mind... and that those hallucinations are caused by the specific interaction between the brain and the substance.

Someone who is experienced in meditation can probably induce hallucinations this way... but I don't think he/she can go to "hyperspace" just by meditating.

Its worth mentioning that not everyone wants to meditate to induce hallucinations and that not everyone wants to take hallucinogens to be enlightened.

All excellent points.