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Hey thanks for the responses. I like the discussion we have flowing here. First I want to quickly expand upon the "auto-pilot" mode (being step 1 of "unconscious autopilot" in your steps Cellux). The only part I see in error with your setup Cellux is that at step 3 you say that there is no remissions into loss of personal power as there is no self. I think that diagram is more of a constant progression. Everyday we are a little ignorant, and we have to move past those things slowly. Just like a 1000 petal lotus, we must unfold slowly.

Auto-pilot mode to me, is when you're are not wholly in the moment. By not wholly living in the moment you can't take fully advantage of the cosmic energy/opportunities that are around you everyday. Like the motto, "there are no ordinary moments." Same idea. If there are no ordinary moments, then every moment that we're alive together is extraordinary. And by turning off "auto-pilot" you recognize that, and stop just going through the motions during certain actions. For example, I'm really bad at this when I go to work. It's almost like I'm a completely different robot at work. But by shedding autopilot, I still retain the things that make me me whilst doing my job. People recognize when you put love into you're work and reciprocate through appreciation/money/opportunities. Always remember, love makes love.

Cellux: Dude I totally hear you on the artist part. My efforts are in visual arts but you don't understand how many times I've tried to cross boundaries and start working in Ableton or something but like yourself, its very hard for me. Musicians really are the ultimate artists and there's a part of my artistic side that envies that.

And to you're question:

I would say yes and no. I think yes that it may be a waste of time from the perspective you're coming from. Perhaps you may need to think of other ways to make money. But I think there is also a largely resounding no. The thing is, all people are artists. One of the gifts we were giving as part of our existence is to create. And that isn't limited to painting rock walls. Creation can happen in all fields, in all walks of life. So no I don't think it's a waste of time because there is something in it for you that you enjoy. Just remember your perspective, that you're making music primarily to have fun. Even if I spend like 3 hours behind ableton and I'll get is a beat, own it. That is YOUR beat. YOUR unique perspective on the situation. And that is priceless.

<blockquote data-quote="KwisatzHaderach" data-source="post: 3366806" data-attributes="member: 5221">Hey thanks for the responses. I like the discussion we have flowing here. First I want to quickly expand upon the &quot;auto-pilot&quot; mode (being step 1 of &quot;unconscious autopilot&quot; in your steps Cellux). The only part I see in error with your setup Cellux is that at step 3 you say that there is no remissions into loss of personal power as there is no self. I think that diagram is more of a constant progression. Everyday we are a little ignorant, and we have to move past those things slowly. Just like a 1000 petal lotus, we must unfold slowly.Auto-pilot mode to me, is when you&#039;re are not wholly in the moment. By not wholly living in the moment you can&#039;t take fully advantage of the cosmic energy/opportunities that are around you everyday. Like the motto, &quot;there are no ordinary moments.&quot; Same idea. If there are no ordinary moments, then every moment that we&#039;re alive together is extraordinary. And by turning off &quot;auto-pilot&quot; you recognize that, and stop just going through the motions during certain actions. For example, I&#039;m really bad at this when I go to work. It&#039;s almost like I&#039;m a completely different robot at work. But by shedding autopilot, I still retain the things that make me me whilst doing my job. People recognize when you put love into you&#039;re work and reciprocate through appreciation/money/opportunities. Always remember, love makes love.Cellux: Dude I totally hear you on the artist part. My efforts are in visual arts but you don&#039;t understand how many times I&#039;ve tried to cross boundaries and start working in Ableton or something but like yourself, its very hard for me. Musicians really are the ultimate artists and there&#039;s a part of my artistic side that envies that.And to you&#039;re question:I would say yes and no. I think yes that it may be a waste of time from the perspective you&#039;re coming from. Perhaps you may need to think of other ways to make money. But I think there is also a largely resounding no. The thing is, all people are artists. One of the gifts we were giving as part of our existence is to create. And that isn&#039;t limited to painting rock walls. Creation can happen in all fields, in all walks of life. So no I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a waste of time because there is something in it for you that you enjoy. Just remember your perspective, that you&#039;re making music primarily to have fun. Even if I spend like 3 hours behind ableton and I&#039;ll get is a beat, own it. That is YOUR beat. YOUR unique perspective on the situation. And that is priceless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KwisatzHaderach, post: 3366806, member: 5221"] Hey thanks for the responses. I like the discussion we have flowing here. First I want to quickly expand upon the "auto-pilot" mode (being step 1 of "unconscious autopilot" in your steps Cellux). The only part I see in error with your setup Cellux is that at step 3 you say that there is no remissions into loss of personal power as there is no self. I think that diagram is more of a constant progression. Everyday we are a little ignorant, and we have to move past those things slowly. Just like a 1000 petal lotus, we must unfold slowly. Auto-pilot mode to me, is when you're are not wholly in the moment. By not wholly living in the moment you can't take fully advantage of the cosmic energy/opportunities that are around you everyday. Like the motto, "there are no ordinary moments." Same idea. If there are no ordinary moments, then every moment that we're alive together is extraordinary. And by turning off "auto-pilot" you recognize that, and stop just going through the motions during certain actions. For example, I'm really bad at this when I go to work. It's almost like I'm a completely different robot at work. But by shedding autopilot, I still retain the things that make me me whilst doing my job. People recognize when you put love into you're work and reciprocate through appreciation/money/opportunities. Always remember, love makes love. Cellux: Dude I totally hear you on the artist part. My efforts are in visual arts but you don't understand how many times I've tried to cross boundaries and start working in Ableton or something but like yourself, its very hard for me. Musicians really are the ultimate artists and there's a part of my artistic side that envies that. And to you're question: I would say yes and no. I think yes that it may be a waste of time from the perspective you're coming from. Perhaps you may need to think of other ways to make money. But I think there is also a largely resounding no. The thing is, all people are artists. One of the gifts we were giving as part of our existence is to create. And that isn't limited to painting rock walls. Creation can happen in all fields, in all walks of life. So no I don't think it's a waste of time because there is something in it for you that you enjoy. Just remember your perspective, that you're making music primarily to have fun. Even if I spend like 3 hours behind ableton and I'll get is a beat, own it. That is YOUR beat. YOUR unique perspective on the situation. And that is priceless. [/QUOTE]