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bigmack

Mack
Trip Report- the trip of all trips

I would like to firstly articulate the notion that I have never written a trip “report” before.... and so, in a sense this is something very new to me and I’m sorry If I don’t meet the expectations of what It is to formally recount an experience.
I’ve probably read close to every report on erowid,shroomery,dmt-nexus etc. (At least for the substances I have personally used over the years).
I’ve always been cautious going into an experience... trying my hardest to gather as many perspectives of what to expect, before indulging. That’s part of the responsibility of it all.
Throughout my twenty years of existence on this planet, I have made it my goal to experience everything to the fullest, I have lived life vivaciously, existentially, passionately.
I have felt the awesome static of neural pathways palpitating ferociously in my temporal lobes, I have walked along the twilight hand in hand with the darkest and brightest of things.
I have flooded receptors of all kinds opiod,serotonin,adrenaline,dopamine alike.
I have found tranquility in the most unexpected places.
I have taken every and any psychoactive substance in my reach...
but this one experience... truly, truly blew me out of the water.

Pre-conditions:
Mindset: I wasn’t particularly happy on this passing easter weekend. After wrestling with a two-year long addiction to daily 400mg doses of codeine both in the morning and at night, I had been attempting to find the spirit of ayahuasca for several weeks now. After attempt, after attempt of trial and error, hoping to have a revitalizing experience... I had found no such luck. At first I thought I wasn’t boiling the MHRB long enough, then I thought maybe I wasn’t using enough plant material, then I thought I wasn’t getting enough maoi potentiation. These ‘doubts’ would eventually lead me to my demise. Having no scale or way of measuring out my plants, I had been significantly increasing the amount of MHRB powder in my boiling pot. Taking several large fistfuls of meticulously shredded powder, thinking that even that was not enough to get the effects I desired... I began to boil all through the day, what would eventually translate into the most revolutionary experience of both the mind and soul.
Physical condition: I haven’t eaten anything for the last two days. I’m physically healthy and fit.
Setting: In my basement, alone.
Recent drug use: weekly experimentation with woodrose seeds, and daily codeine use. And I thought the occasional 10-12 seeds of woodrose was intense enough!!
Participant: Male, twenty years old, 135 pounds, no medical condtions.
List of drugs injested up until this experience: lsd,lsa,mescaline,psylocibin,mdma,meth,dmt(smoked),THC,caffeine,codeine,morphine,fentanyl,
oxycodone,muscimol,dextromethorphan,diazepam,diacetylmorphine,clonazepam,cocaine/crack,alcohol,absinthe,piperazines etc. etc. (‘ve basically used everything and anything that’s been raved about, but obviously the list isn’t entirely complete)
Bioassay:
As mentioned earlier, I had been foolishly messing around with the ayahuasca trip, scale-less.
My estimation based on how deeply disturbed and impacted by this experience that I was... I would assume I used upwards of 35 grams mimosa hostilis and five grams Syrian rue. Yeah, thats right. Thirty-five fucking grams.
So I started by taking the rue, I waited a good two hours after taking it before ingesting my boiled down, extremely darkened mimosa brew. I was actually surprised by how reduced in volume I managed to get the mimosa, maybe only 15ml’s!!
After the two hour mark, I injested the mimosa and got into some serous matches of online poker as I waited, unaware of what was about to happen.
Effects:
The entire concoction was taken at around 6pm, the sun was still peering through my basement window. I played poker for an easy two hours after the ingestion period. I got very, very sick for about a half an hour, but unlike my prior attempts with ayahuasca, surprisingly, never purged. This is probably what accounted for the intensity.
I had spoken to a friend in the dmt-nexus chat room before injesting, arrogantly declaring to him that I had not measured my plant material... and he/she was actually concerned for me. I assured him/her that: “It’ll be alright, I’m sure my body will expel the brew before too much dmt is absorbed, under the circumstances that maybe I have taken too much. I’m sure my system will spare me.”
I was wrong. Anyways, the sickness passed and after two hours, I thought I had failed at my aya experience, yet again.
The light body high I was experiencing had passed and I felt completely sober. I sighed and went upstairs to nibble on a cherry Danish. Yum.
After eating the Danish, I went back downstairs and turned on my electric piano and was surprised by how perfect and effective I was hitting the notes. Suddenly, in the middle of playing the piano, my hand began to cripple... like arthritis had made it’s way to my nerve endings. And that’s when an extremely overwhelming sense of fear hit me.
I got up and walked to my bed, grabbed the biggest blanket I could find, pulled it over top of me and began to descend into the trip of my lifetime. All I can remember coming out of It was having repeated to myself over and over: “I deserve this. I deserve this.”
I don’t want to actually get into the details of the trip. Quite frankly, the ayahuasca experience seems to escape us, as we exit it.
However I will say this.
Yes, the elf/alien creature made it’s way into my basement. Yes, I thought I had died and emmigrated into a timeless void. Yes, there was ego-death... I cried profusely, and was shattered by a force that no word or form of communication could even begin to describe.
The trip was more intense than any prior substance use. It peaked for longer than anyone has ever articulated having happened to them (probably in the eight-hour range).
I came out of the trip at about 5am, feeling like I had regressed to the intelligence of a three-year old. I called my mother down to the basement where I had layed for ten hours straight heavily sedated by the experience.
She turned on the light and I begged her to turn it off, the luminescence burned my eyes.
She sat with me, and all I could say to her is: “mom, I have no idea what just happened to me. I can’t even understand anything right now.”
She asked me if I was afraid and I told her that no, I wasn’t. Just overwhelmed.

Well... eventually my cognitive functions returned to me, but it took a hell of a long time.
I would just like to express my concern for anyone seeking this medicine, please, please practice precision. I wouldn’t wish on to anyone what happened to me last night.
In conclusion,
I don’t think I’ll be returning to the psychedelic realm of dimethyltryptamine anytime soon, or that of any substance for that matter. I need a long vacation. I can’t believe I’m actually saying this, but I need reality for once.
The last thing I would like to say is Terrance mckenna is right.... if you ever find yourself in an experience too powerful for words... if you ever find yourself plunging into a deep and dark obscurity of madness and incomprehensible fear... just sing. Lightly, loudly, humming, shouting... it matters not. Just sing your way through it... and you might actually immerse untarnished.

I love you ayahuasca. Thank you for giving me the trip of all trips, thank you for teaching me the necessity of responsibility
*Any comments are greatly appreciated*
peace
 
I think sometimes we need an experience like that to tell us its time to take a break, use the time to get some perspective on things. Can always come back to it when the time is right.
 
holy bejesusman... 35 grams of mimosa with 5g rue? Glad you made it through!! :) But please..be more careful next time! This happens often with pharmahuasca- where you have a couple disappointing "dud" experiences, and then crank the dosage up way too high when aiming to correct it later.. when really its just technique that is off. I know you said they didn't work, but what kind of doses were you taking before this attempt?

and its not ayahuasca without the ayahuasca vine..rue can take you to similar places, but they have their differences to

Like ewok said, take as much time as you need to integrate back into "reality".

happy trails
 
basically, i just kept adding more mimosa to my pot everytime i tried. left it in the pot for weeks in between just chilling in water, and then the day of the attempt, i would boil it down a little while.
all the attempt before this one, i wound up puking... so naturally i assumed I wasnt getting enough dmt in the brew to enter my bloodstream before i purged.
but like i said... the strangest thing about it was how after drinkin the mimosa, i was literally sober for 2+ hours, and then after eating a little danish... it suddenly just exploded on me.
thanks for everyone's support
 
Yeah i always eat a piece of fruit or something with aya or pharma or rue or whatever, or else it takes over an hour to kick in sometimes. Eating a bite with it though gets digestion flowing and makes it kick in 20-30 minutes at the most
 
Wow... That is an ultra-mega-dose in my opinion.

I have gone very deep on 3 grams rue in tea, waited 30 minutes, and then drank 7 grams of MHRB in tea.

It was beyond my belief intense for for at least the middle 1 hour of a 4 hour trip with baseline occurring after about 5 hours other than a nice glowing feeling.

I will try my damndest to take away from your experience why I am very careful about dosing! Good luck... be gentle on yourself.
 
How much rue were you using before and how did you prepare it? Did you crush the seeds? Rue contains the MAOIs that make the DMT orally active (caapi also has them). The rue/caapi alkaloids are also psychedelic on their own. When you waited the two hours between drinking the rue and the mimosa did you feel any effects? If you weren't getting much effect from a few grams of mimosa then you may not have been getting the good inhibition.
 
i just straight crushed the rue seeds and put them in little toilet paper squares (parachute). Three fat bundles that I could barely swallow.
And yeah I was definetly feeling the rue. thats why i waited 2 hours before dosing the mimosa, because I was already feeling extremely relaxed, sort of like a opiod/benzo type of high (from the rue seeds).
Honestly, even the after-glow from this experience was unnervingly gut-twisting and mind-melting.
It wasn't a euphoric afterglow like an LSD after-glow for example. It was a very heavy comedown... thats how I know I really overdid it.
This is almost 24 hours and counting since ingestion and I still have a very dilapitated and overshot nervous system, pretty much limping around the house with squinted eye syndrome haha. Kinda funny in retrospect. (In a very serious sort of way)
OH and also... in my prior attempts at ingestion with this huasca blend, i had just eaten the rue seeds whole (uncrushed)...
and they always came up whole when I puked, which is probably why i never experienced anything with prior attempts (due to inmproper MAOI inhibition)
 
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