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The wondrous world of chi power....unfortunately, it works only on attackers who are your disciples!

Believers...they believe; even when it's shown that such demonstrations of what can only be "supernatural" ALWAYS fail (or never confront) objective tests. How DIFFERENT the world would be if objective and rigorous tests could show such things actually EXIST. They NEVER do.

You would think:
1) The holders of such wondrous knowledge would want to EXPAND such knowledge far and wide throughout humanity.
2) Such a spread could happen EXTREMELY quickly and broadly with the support of objective testers of fact.
3) Ultimately...such tests seem to never get made.

I recall conversations I had with a western trained medical doctor from Pakistan, who is a Sufi Muslim. In discussing "woo" with him, he mentioned that...of course...lots of Sufi masters routinely brought people back from the dead--often for many hours; it was commonly known and demonstrated--hardly worth even mentioning! I challenged him on this. I told him, as a western trained doctor he could collaborate with me on experiments to show this phenomenon objectively. I told him he would be FAMOUS, and would bring the word of Muhammad and the Sufi teachings to the world stage! ALL WOULD BELIEVE HIS RELIGION, drop all other "wrong" religions, and all men would be brothers! I wouldn't let up on him! We discussed it for days--and how wondrous an expression of his religion would ensue!

Finally...he said he just wasn't seeking that kind of fame...

And so we see cognitive dissonance: the ability (and the desire) to keep various "compartments" in the mind--which can exist even though they are utterly incapable of rational resolution.

People just....WANT to believe.

But in the end, dismissing the need for TRUTH does not serve people well...

We have to learn to be happy even if the world doesn't work in a way that satisfies our fantasies.

EDIT: Oh, and one more thing: One has to wonder why all those AMAZINGLY MAGICAL TIBETANS weren't, apparently, able to focus just a bit of that "chi" onto Chairman Mao--just enough to stop him from sending hordes of peasants with cheaply made AK-47s to Tibet to utterly DESTROY the Tibetan culture, power structure, and religious study centers...

<blockquote data-quote="SWIMfriend" data-source="post: 3514748" data-attributes="member: 1900">The wondrous world of chi power....unfortunately, it works only on attackers who are your disciples!Believers...they believe; even when it&#039;s shown that such demonstrations of what can only be &quot;supernatural&quot; ALWAYS fail (or never confront) objective tests. How DIFFERENT the world would be if objective and rigorous tests could show such things actually EXIST. They NEVER do.You would think:1) The holders of such wondrous knowledge would want to EXPAND such knowledge far and wide throughout humanity.2) Such a spread could happen EXTREMELY quickly and broadly with the support of objective testers of fact.3) Ultimately...such tests seem to never get made.I recall conversations I had with a western trained medical doctor from Pakistan, who is a Sufi Muslim. In discussing &quot;woo&quot; with him, he mentioned that...of course...lots of Sufi masters routinely brought people back from the dead--often for many hours; it was commonly known and demonstrated--hardly worth even mentioning! I challenged him on this. I told him, as a western trained doctor he could collaborate with me on experiments to show this phenomenon objectively. I told him he would be FAMOUS, and would bring the word of Muhammad and the Sufi teachings to the world stage! ALL WOULD BELIEVE HIS RELIGION, drop all other &quot;wrong&quot; religions, and all men would be brothers! I wouldn&#039;t let up on him! We discussed it for days--and how wondrous an expression of his religion would ensue!Finally...he said he just wasn&#039;t seeking that kind of fame...And so we see cognitive dissonance: the ability (and the desire) to keep various &quot;compartments&quot; in the mind--which can exist even though they are utterly incapable of rational resolution.People just....WANT to believe.But in the end, dismissing the need for TRUTH does not serve people well...We have to learn to be happy even if the world doesn&#039;t work in a way that satisfies our fantasies.EDIT: Oh, and one more thing: One has to wonder why all those AMAZINGLY MAGICAL TIBETANS weren&#039;t, apparently, able to focus just a bit of that &quot;chi&quot; onto Chairman Mao--just enough to stop him from sending hordes of peasants with cheaply made AK-47s to Tibet to utterly DESTROY the Tibetan culture, power structure, and religious study centers...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SWIMfriend, post: 3514748, member: 1900"] The wondrous world of chi power....unfortunately, it works only on attackers who are your disciples! Believers...they believe; even when it's shown that such demonstrations of what can only be "supernatural" ALWAYS fail (or never confront) objective tests. How DIFFERENT the world would be if objective and rigorous tests could show such things actually EXIST. They NEVER do. You would think: 1) The holders of such wondrous knowledge would want to EXPAND such knowledge far and wide throughout humanity. 2) Such a spread could happen EXTREMELY quickly and broadly with the support of objective testers of fact. 3) Ultimately...such tests seem to never get made. I recall conversations I had with a western trained medical doctor from Pakistan, who is a Sufi Muslim. In discussing "woo" with him, he mentioned that...of course...lots of Sufi masters routinely brought people back from the dead--often for many hours; it was commonly known and demonstrated--hardly worth even mentioning! I challenged him on this. I told him, as a western trained doctor he could collaborate with me on experiments to show this phenomenon objectively. I told him he would be FAMOUS, and would bring the word of Muhammad and the Sufi teachings to the world stage! ALL WOULD BELIEVE HIS RELIGION, drop all other "wrong" religions, and all men would be brothers! I wouldn't let up on him! We discussed it for days--and how wondrous an expression of his religion would ensue! Finally...he said he just wasn't seeking that kind of fame... And so we see cognitive dissonance: the ability (and the desire) to keep various "compartments" in the mind--which can exist even though they are utterly incapable of rational resolution. People just....WANT to believe. But in the end, dismissing the need for TRUTH does not serve people well... We have to learn to be happy even if the world doesn't work in a way that satisfies our fantasies. EDIT: Oh, and one more thing: One has to wonder why all those AMAZINGLY MAGICAL TIBETANS weren't, apparently, able to focus just a bit of that "chi" onto Chairman Mao--just enough to stop him from sending hordes of peasants with cheaply made AK-47s to Tibet to utterly DESTROY the Tibetan culture, power structure, and religious study centers... [/QUOTE]