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antrocles

antrocles

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SWIM recently made his first batch of the sacred spice and is on his hands and knees in reverence. this is THE holy sacrament SWIM's been questing for for 20+ years.... and now SWIM's head is....well....swimming...with questions on how best to explore the limitlessness of hyperspace. SWIM has approached the spice with the utmost RESPECT, starting with .015 and going up .01 each time until he broke through at .045. SWIM has sooooo many questions but will limit it to just a couple: THH as an addition to smoking the spice... how much should a "respectful" explorer use (and how)? how does it augment the experience? any other suggestions as to additional ways to positively color a journey? i was reading about theobromine.....how much organic, raw cacao would constitute a noticeable effect? SWIM apologizes for his puppy-like enthusiasm but the love and awe he experienced has shifted his reality, quite honestly, forever...
 
SWIM has taken 5mg THH sublingually for 15 mins and smoked about 10mg DMT, watching clouds. His breakthrough dose is 15mg but the wind kept blowing out the lighter so he only got 10mg. The sky turned into a ceiling of sorts of lavenders and blues, and a little geometry.

He really breaks through on 15mg THH and 15mg DMT smoked.

It's awesome isn't it, how the time slows down and one can actually make sense. THH empowers and makes it much more manageable. AT the same time though, SWIM comes back shaking.

For SWIM, THH makes the experience about 5X more intense, and last 2X as long.
 
Thanks a million! SWIM's most curious about the whole "manageable" part....as if something so beyond anything quantifiable could ever be managed....still, SWIY is a wise mentor and SWIM shall follow his tutelage with excitement at the prospect of going deeper with more ability to retain and "manage"... many thanks and blessings!!
 
congratulations on fulfilling a dream!! im happy for you

and THH is quite nice with smoked spice..theobromine is for potentiating oral dmt..but doesnt seem to do much for smoked...

with THH..smoked dmt is like a blessing...its so so so enjoyable..you can really sit in the experience..and watch it with a slightly more clear mind..really keeps you from becoming too overwhelmed..maybe...
 
Jorkest- SWIM has read many of SWIY's threads, including the one about the O.D. on theobromine....VERY educational and inspirational!! SWIY are another mentor for SWIM on his odyssey. THH has been ordered and SWIM is trying to focus on other things and not obsess about it's arrival!! what quantities of THH and smoked spice does SWIY suggest? Nanaki has given SWIM the amounts that a FOAF uses to break through....15mg THH and 10mg DMT....that sounds pretty doable to SWIM as 10mg DMT does seem like very much....THH must really turbo-charge it!! also, on a slightly different note: SWIM had his first breakthrough at .045 BUT has been breaking through at much lower doses ever since! had the most profound experience yet at only .03!! is this normal? does it get easier to break through as one develops one's relationship with the spice? SWIM's in so much awe and reverence words fail him....

....he thinks he's going to attempt to write about his last journey....would love for his wiser, more experienced mentors to add clarity if possible....many thanks and blessings!!
 
well THH doesnt seem to turbo-charge the experience...if anything it kinda puts a little buffer on the dmt...but the energy doesnt get lost with the THH..its just stretched out a bit..

some of SWIM's nice experiences are with say 15-20mg of THH placed under the tongue...and then say 15-25mg dmt vaporized..and for SWIM its not really a breakthrough..but you can almost will yourself over to the other side...its MUCH more euphoric as well..

and about your breakthroughs...SWIM has noticed how you may become more sensitive to dmt after your first breakthrough..in a sense..the door is now open..so you can slide over a little easier...but recently..SWIM has been having a hard time breaking through..always gets the 'breakthrough denied'..he knows exactly why though..hes been drinking too much..and its clouding his mind..so he needs to make sure next time he tries...he must be very clear headed and sober..

another reason you may be using less..is because your smoking technique might be improving..and you are vaporizing more of the dust..and not burning it
 
SWIM uses a custom built test tube vaporizer. He’s able to inhale about 95% of the vapor using that system without burning any DMT at all. It’s very efficient and costs about $20 to put together.

It’s very easy to burn the DMT, or waste the vapor if not done right. Using the test tube vaporizer, SWIM can easily get 50 mg vaporized and inhaled in ONE SHOT. And because you’re not holding the vaporizer (the test tube is clamped down), you can’t drop it, so there’s no worry about broken glass.

SWIM started using the test tube vaporizer system because none of the commercial vaporizers work for bufotenine (vaporizes at 320 C). That’s primarily what SWIM uses his vaporizer for.

Before he had the test tube system, SWIM typically smoked it in a bong and wasted about 75% if his DMT, so instead of needing 10 mg for decent effects, he needed 40 mg.
 
TheNtt said:
For THH, is the best method of ingestion sublingual? How does it taste?
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For SWIM it is the best. Some prefer snorting, but that didn't work well at all for SWIM.

The taste is bitter, but not that bad.
 
SWIM uses a custom built test tube vaporizer. He’s able to inhale about 95% of the vapor using that system without burning any DMT at all. It’s very efficient and costs about $20 to put together.
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You wouldn't care to post a photo of this test tube rocket, would you? SWIM is pretty happy with the glass bong, hash oil stem and jet lighter system (very little seems to be wasted now that he's getting his technique down), but is always curious about how he might improve the experience.
 
Did I post those somewhere. It actually takes SWIM 15mg to breakthrough. 10mg isn't enough even when taking sublingual THH.

15mg smoked though, when on 15mg THH (20 mins sublingual), he comes back shaking, but feeling great.

antrocles said:
Nanaki has given SWIM the amounts that a FOAF uses to break through....15mg THH and 10mg DMT....that sounds pretty doable to SWIM as 10mg DMT does seem like very much....THH must really turbo-charge it!!
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Whoops! sorry for the misquote 'naki....SWIM needs to work on his reading skills it would seem :) 69ron- SWIM is beyond curious as to the making of this "test-tube vaporizer".... like Mr. D'lay, SWIM would LOVE to see a photo if SWIY would be so generous as to post one.....SWIM has absolutely no problems smoking the spice (fascinating really as SWIM is a serious athlete who doesn't smoke anything so as to coddle his precious lungums..) never so much as coughed once holding in big .04 monster-tokes....HOWEVER, SWIM is all about the idea of vaporizing vs. using his bong with hash bubble attachment. all of his Hyperspace brothers are so very kind with their words of wisdom. SWIM is deeply grateful to have found this "League Of Visionary Explorers".... many thanks and blessings.
 
......never felt so much of it as there is on the other side.....truly life-altering...sooooo much gratitude in SWIM's heart for finding this sacrament...and those who have been so generous in offering ways of going deeper, farther and more completely....so....yes....League Of Visionary Explorers!.....L.O.V.E.!! that's what we are all members of here....a sacred family united in the experience of the most divine and profound.... many thanks a blessings!
 
if SWIY has any photoshop skills...get crackin! :) would love to see what SWIY comes up with.... SWIM's just honored to be a member!! mtab!!
 
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