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+ Mean "after" not together.

Oral harmala + smoke/vaporize DMT=vaporhuasca.

Smoke/vaporize Harmala + smoke/vaporize DMT= ?

Oral DMT + smoke/vaporize Harmala= ? Or and vice versa.

Oral Harmala + oral psilocybin = pharmauascha

Smoke/vaporize Harmala + oral psilocybin = ? Or and vice versa

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xa said:
Smoke/vaporize Harmala + smoke/vaporize DMT= i thought was this vaporhuasca
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Yeah I guess there's no strict definitions for these combos, to me especially the smoked part makes it a changa like experience. I would call oral hamalas followed by vaped dmt vaporhuasca bcz you are literally drinking ayahuasca and vaping dmt.
 
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Sakkadelic said:
Yeah I guess there's no strict definitions for these combos, to me especially the smoked part makes it a changa like experience. I would call oral harmala + vaped dmt vaporhuasca bcz you are literally drinking ayahuasca and vaping dmt.
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More strictly, changa would be restricted to the concurrent administration of DMT and harmala via smoking of, or vaporisation from, herbaceous material.

@xa's use of "+" here is something of a quirk to this discussion with its intended meaning of sequential administration. But "vaporhuasca" is generally taken to mean oral harmalas followed by vaporised/smoalked DMT from all the examples I've seen discussed here over the years. It could be seen as having analogy to "cha hoasca" as well.

For the fully vaporised version, how about, say, "split changa", if it really needs a slightly more succinct name.

The kids will end up calling it whatever they want anyhow :p
 
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Yeah changa is the name for the harmala&dmt enhaced leaf, naming the seperate smoalking/vaping changa wouldn't be so appropriate. Although I think the effects would be very similar to changa.

The "+" usage as "after" is a bit confusing because saying "harmala + dmt" harmala comes first in the sentence but the meaning is harmala after dmt. But I should only use "+" as intended by OP and correct my previous post.

Smoalking/vaping dmt + harmala is more viable than harmala + dmt since it would be hard to keep smoalking after smoalking the dmt first. and the protective MAOI effects would probably come a bit too late.
 
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I had interpreted "+ means after" as "+ means succession", "one after the other" (as opposed to at the same time). This is supported by "harmalas + DMT = vaporhuasca", as in vaporhuasca harmalas go first. So the one on the left would be before.
But yes, if "+" literally means "after" it's different. @xa , did you mean vaporizing harmalas after DMT?

Drug algebra is quite fitting for the Entheogenic University :LOL:
 
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