Thoughts On First DMT Experiences

[TheJourney]

I'd like to share some aspects of my dmt experiences thus far, of which there have been three. Hear thoughts, if others can relate, etc. First of all, I haven't been able to just lay back and close my eyes yet, so my eyes have been open. This has been because, so far whenever I've done it, after taking my hits I'm almost instantly consumed with an absolute need to puke. And it's just a thing where, it absolutely takes me over and it just comes through me and everything just violently comes out of me. It's a thing where there is just no stopping it. Interestingly, the experience itself is essentially an egoless experience. It's like it just takes over me, and that's all there is, like I am what is happening and it's this crazy intense thing where releasing everything with no sense of having any orientation outside of that experience. I've been using an oil burner, if you think that may have relevance. And any ideas you may have on getting that under control, so that I can lay back close my eyes and really venture out. I've heard of purging with oral dmt, but not so much with smoked, not sure if that's a thing. That is kind of what it feels like.

Beyond this, there has been one interesting thing has been common among the three experiences I have thus far had that stands out. And that is, this etheric substance which emanates from everything. And it's like, this etheric version of everything that extends beyond itself and mingles with the same fabric that emanates from everything else. And this fabric was composed of all of these symbols, various spiritual looking symbols, and it was like these symbols were actually the underlying structure of everything.

Another thing involves post-dmt time. Something I've felt like, after doing dmt, is like it almost rewires my brain in a positive way. First of all, I become way more introspective and insightful into myself, and also more conscious of others and the situation I am in. It also seems to help free me of my patterns of behavior, where I feel more free to act how I want in the moment as opposed to according to my usual patterns. And also, idk it's almost like it's helpful to my intelligence as well, and ability to say things and look at things in interesting/eloquent/novel ways. Just like a positive, beneficial mental restructuring. How long it lasts is perhaps variant, and perhaps that is really a major aspect of the value of dmt, in this and your ability to maintain and accentuate it. Because, in my experience there was much intensity and good, beautiful, spiritual things, but on the other hand it didn't seem like I got information per se. My friend said the same of his experiences. So I've thought that perhaps this is a significant aspect of it, and perhaps this maintaining the second aspect of it combines with an enhanced capability for obtaining information, and this is what you attain through continued work. And also, this sort of thing is something I have always from my studies and understanding thought psychedelics did or could do. So yea, these are a couple interesting aspects of the experiences I've had thus far that I'm curious to see if others relate to and have thoughts on.

 

[Global]

Your oil burner may indeed be responsible for your nausea. A common symptom of burnt DMT is nausea. The sensation of a "marble in the throat" is also a dead giveaway. Burnt experiences may often result in hyper-speed experiences as if someone hit 3x fast-forward on your hypermovie. Your oil burner may be inappropriate for smoking DMT, and finding a better utensil may relieve your nausea.

On the other hand, there have been select times in hyperspace where I have personally felt that there was no burning at play, and that I was still overcome with an intense nausea. It would be as if "they" had a finger on the nausea center of my brain. It's almost like an irrational form of nausea. It doesn't quite make sense why it's present. I have never actually puked from experiences such as this.

 

[BongWizard]

I can definitely relate to your experiences, especially the post dmt euphoria and insightfullness. As for the nausea, the oil burner could have something to do with it. Is it actually an oil burner (eg kerosene) or is it a spirit burner (ie alcohol burner)? Also, what is the spice sourced from? Because the nausea you describe sounds like some experiences I've had with tannin rich extracts. The other possible culprit, from my experience, could be bufotenin, as I've also experienced something like this when extracting from wild phalaris.

You've piqued my interest and I'd really like to help you achieve a cleaner, more pleasurable experience. Please let us know soon :d

 

[TheJourney]

Thanks for the responses. Wow if being burnt is a thing that has a certain affect on the experience, I'm guessing it was due to it being burnt. Global, your description of hyper-speed sounds just right. It is so crazy it's like I just ansolutely zoom through this crazy intense thing where I lose all sense of orientation, who I am, where I am, what I'm doing, and it's just zooming past in this way that completely envelops me, then all the sudden I begin to get oriented again, and I've just looked at this incredible beauty. And like I said, this etheric substance which really looks tangible almost like you could touch it coming out of everything. And it's composed of all these spiritual sorts of symbols. And everything is connected through this substance, and these symbols are like the structural foundation that composes everything. And yesterday I did this in a nature center, and was in forest near an edge overlooking a stream at sunset. And it was amazing how the sky and te objects around me were like one in this substance, which the stream probably accentuated due to it's being like a reflector for the sunset.

Now, As I understand it you're generally supposed to lay back and close your eyes, but is this etheric substance something you guys or others are familiar with? Is it something people often see? That's been a constant to my three mostly open-eye experiences. It's been kind of an interesting thing that stood out to me, do just am curious about that. And yea bongwizard, I really feel like it smooths my mind out, like gets rid of kinks, letting it flow much more smoothly. And it just makes seems to affect my mind positively in a number of ways. And it seems to really give me an expanded sense of freedom in action and a lessening of just playing out the usual patterns. And I'm not sure how to answer your question about my source, since it says were not supposed to talk about buying it. But it should be a trusted person, and it's a white powder.

 

[Global]

And like I said, this etheric substance which really looks tangible almost like you could touch it coming out of everything. And it's composed of all these spiritual sorts of symbols. And everything is connected through this substance, and these symbols are like the structural foundation that composes everything.

It is tangible. I think you'd be surprised and delighted by what happens if you reach out to touch it. I'll leave those observations for you to make.

Now, As I understand it you're generally supposed to lay back and close your eyes, but is this etheric substance something you guys or others are familiar with? Is it something people often see? That's been a constant to my three mostly open-eye experiences. It's been kind of an interesting thing that stood out to me, do just am curious about that.

I don't know how others experience DMT, but from the way you describe it, that etheric substance is the very material of all that I experience there, but it open-eyed or close-eyed. I have a lot I could share with you, but I'd like to see some of the things you notice about its interactivity first. Try to gauge what can affect it and how.

 

[TGO]

Your oil burner may indeed be responsible for your nausea.

I can second that idea. The very first time I ever broke through via an oil burner ( you do mean a meth/crack/EVIL style pipe, correct?) I remember crashing through a fractalized cathedral style "ceiling" at warp speed and feeling quite nauseous.

It subsided a bit as I traversed hyperspace but when I came back down, I remember feeling like I was spinning back into my body. As if I was on some carousel that had a setting called "warp speed spin."

That was when the nausea really kicked in but I hadn't fully returned to my body yet so I was trying to make sense of the craziness. I was thinking, "I'm going to throw up! Wait! How do I throw up? Where? Who? What?"

And then I was back, and the nausea faded. I have only ever had nausea when vaping via an oil burner. Since then I have made enhanced leaf or changa and have had no nausea whatsoever.

So in conclusion, I must agree that an oil burner is not the best/effective way to vape your DMT. I can't say that using an oil burner and getting nauseous are necessarily related but it may be worthwhile to switch up your vaping method!

Best of luck!