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Tim Burton ruined the message from the original Willy Wonka

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I was just wondering if anyone else noticed that Tim Burton, as he usually does, brought a long his own belief baggage when re-making Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (him being a staunch anti-spirituality atheist). The original Charlie and the Chocolate Factory presents itself as an anglo-sized version of a shamanic experience. Willy Wonka acts as a shamanic teacher guiding the children through a psychedelic experience and those who fall out of grace are directly linked to the 7 deadly sins. Its real interesting if you study a lot of the imagery and see the film for its underlying message. I was just wondering if anyone else is at all offended by Tim Burton's remake?
 
i wasn't as much "offended" by the remake.

I watched it while tripping shrooms, and just got an eerie feeling from that wonka fella. He seemed to have such an evil underlying aspect. Like he was up to no good the entire movie. Didn't help the guy kept giving me the evil eye, lol.

But yes, way different vibe then the original. 8)
 
Can't beat the Gene Wilder version.The bit where they're on the boat through the tunnel and Gene starts singing that weird song still gets me good:d
 
anyone saw Sweeney Todd the demon barber from fleet st? now that's a really evil character played by johnny deep , the movie is a kind of musical mixed with horror and loads of weird people , didn't like it much ,too strange for me plus they all sing during the whole movie , although i must say some parts where really funny.
 
MR.shroom said:
anyone saw Sweeney Todd the demon barber from fleet st? now that's a really evil character played by johnny deep , the movie is a kind of musical mixed with horror and loads of weird people , didn't like it much ,too strange for me plus they all sing during the whole movie , although i must say some parts where really funny.
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Yes, even though it was a musical, i thought it was very good. It is based on a play you know. It was pretty well done, i enjoyed it.
 
Yeah that was strangly how I felt while watching the new one in theaters.

It lost it's intensity as well, sort of like you had to have some steely balls to see what happened to the other children, yet continue, and even getting down the tunnle, all very strangly symbolic, and dropped/altered in some psychadelic-less sterile state.
 
Yeah I totally hear you on the shamanic voyage of the original, completely lacking in the new one. Wasn't that crazy aboot it really, only seen it once with no urge to go back... it lacked the deeper meaning, for sure, plus seeing Dep playing a cross between Marilyn Manson and Micheal Jackson was a little too creepy IMO.

Still, despite Burton's best efforts, he couldn't keep synchronicity out of his film. The time I saw it at the theater was the only time I've ever tried amanitas, and lo and behold, there were candy amanitas in the film!

HA HA! SPIRIT FLOWS THROUGH ALL THINGS! EVEN ATHEISTS! HA HA! :p
 
MR.shroom said:
anyone saw Sweeney Todd the demon barber from fleet st? now that's a really evil character played by johnny deep , the movie is a kind of musical mixed with horror and loads of weird people , didn't like it much ,too strange for me plus they all sing during the whole movie , although i must say some parts where really funny.
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You have to be weird to some degree to play like that. Sweeney Todd is one of my favourite movies. I also enjoyed the remake of Chocolate Factory, the presentation may be different, but the message is still the same.
 
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