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Tree frog may cure cancer, others may cure/prevent AIDS

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This woman says Kambo minimized her back pain giving need for less pain medicine, at the same time her withdrawl symptoms from the lowered dose of medicine in the coming week were minimal as well.
 
Aegle said:
Ntwhtyouknw

Check this out if you are interested in research towards finding a cure for cancer: Lei Gong Teng


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I'll tell you why I'm dubious about this (and similar claims for well-known plant substances): The article you link to says the Chinese have been using this for rheumatoid arthritis since...forever. If it DID have such a strong effect on tumors, they would have already discovered it: I'm sure that herbalists working with a plant that has useful effects would end up trying it on everything to see how broadly it worked.
 
SWIMfriend

Well when big pharmaceutical companies are involved in societies health care and disease is big business freedom of information is not very high on their agenda I am sure...


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I'm quite sure that "big pharma" has zero interest in sharing information that is not profitable for them.

But I don't know how to relates to my comment, which was to note that if there was strong tumor lysing potential in the herb, Chinese herbalists would have noticed it a thousand years ago.
 
The peptides in this frog have shown ability to halt tumor growth, in some cases kill it. Its also believed a way to treat AIDS, I believe by the antibodies our bodies produce to fight the poison, it can then fight the virus.
 
Amphibians as indicators of environmental health is a link to the Australian red eyed tree frog showing promise in preventing aids, perhaps even after exposure, this article is also an eye opener to the harm industrial agriculture has on the environment. Interesting-Facts2

" The skin secretions of the red-eyed tree frog have been found to destroy the HIV (the virus that causes AIDS), without harming healthy T-cells.

Frogs are good bio indicators (an organism able to show whether an environment is healthy or unhealthy) because of their highly permeable skin."
 
SWIMfriend

Maybe it has been know by the Chinese for thousands of years and has not been made public knowledge, though truly it is hard to say. Chinese medicine has its efficacy but also has its flaws in prescribing many ingredients that there has been no thorough research into their effectiveness also while there being far more humane alternatives, bear bile is one them.

In conclusion if there is scientific evidence to support these claims I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the evidence...


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Of course I wouldn't dismiss ANY reliable evidence--scientifically published or otherwise. My point, again, is that it is UNLIKELY for an herb that has been in common use since ancient times to suddenly be found to be, not merely useful, but an actual CURE for a major disease. It's just a matter of odds. There have been many herbs that have shown "some measurable utility" (usually when combined with other chemotherapeutic agents). But none of those is anything anywhere NEAR a "cure." That's not surprising: since they've been around so long, it would have quite EASILY come to people's notice that it was able to cure cancer.

It may be that cure will one day be found from the natural world. But if it is, it's highly likely to be from a very RARE source (like, for example, the skin of an obscure frog species). The highly effective (but not a "cure" ) chemotherapeutic agent doxorubicin, for example. was found in a bacterium from the grounds of an Italian castle--a strain that had never been seen before in any other place!

Cancer has plagued humanity since the beginning (apparently), and desperate people have surely tried every natural substance commonly available for it--without significant recorded success (i.e., a cure).
 
SWIMfriend

I will have to graciously disagree with you on this matter... Their findings have been published in the journal Science Translational Medicine, so there must be some validity to these claims. ;)


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Aegle said:
SWIMfriend

I will have to graciously disagree with you on this matter... Their findings have been published in the journal Science Translational Medicine, so there must be some validity to these claims. ;)


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OK. When it is widely acknowledged as a "cure" please return to this thread and properly demand me to eat crow on the issue, 😉

EDIT: Here's the article they link to from Bloomberg. Surely, it does sound promising....and so have COUNTLESS OTHER DRUGS AND PROCEDURES when tested on mice, as this has been. So far, EVERY procedure that did GREAT on mice did LESS WELL (or didn't work at all) in humans...

Maybe this will be the one exception. I wouldn't bet on it, however.
 
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