Unclean Naphtha (zippo premium).

[jimmy4fingers]

Also did the same test with Ronsonol and got similar results.

Mirror was cleaned with hot water and soap then dried. Not a single stain. Dribbled roughly 5ml of Zippo Premium formula and left to dry. Swabbed the surface with a clean cotton bud. As you can see.. massive oil stains left behind as the fluid evapped. Pretty greasy.

I would advise others to do the same test with their naphtha.

Swim may have to dispose a 1g batch of dmt made with this dirty naphtha. Currently sourcing some lab grade heptane. Does anyone know if a re-x with clean heptane would remove the concerning oily residue?

 

[DeMenTed]

Did you thoroughly rinse the mirror after washing it with soap? Soap will leave a residue that stays there for a while.

Maybe try washing your mirror with vinegar and trying again just to confirm your findings?

I'm a window cleaner and ive used a de-ionized water reach and wash system to wash windows that have previously been washed with detergant and it can take around 3-4 washes with the reach and wash before the soap residue washes off the windows. Just a thought.

 

[jimmy4fingers]

Did you thoroughly rinse the mirror after washing it with soap? Soap will leave a residue that stays there for a while.

Maybe try washing your mirror with vinegar and trying again just to confirm your findings?

I'm a window cleaner and ive used a de-ionized water reach and wash system to wash windows that have previously been washed with detergant and it can take around 3-4 washes with the reach and wash before the soap residue washes off the windows. Just a thought.

Yes thoroughly rinsed it and even used fairly hot water to wash away any oils. The residue left behind was oily from the naphtha. I'm guessing perhaps its somekind of anti-rust oil for zippos? I'm not sure. I will redo the test with a white vinegar wash later and see what happens.

 

[DeMenTed]

The thing with soap residue is that you won't see it and unless it's thoroughly rinsed with de-ionized water the chances are that the residue will remain. The napthta might be sticking and reacting with the residue leaving the oily gunk. Either that or you're right enough and your napthta is dirty. I'am surprised though that your ronsonol test gave the same results.

 

[jimmy4fingers]

The thing with soap residue is that you won't see it and unless it's thoroughly rinsed with de-ionized water the chances are that the residue will remain. The napthta might be sticking and reacting with the residue leaving the oily gunk. Either that or you're right enough and your napthta is dirty. I'am surprised though that your ronsonol test gave the same results.

Will washing with white vinegar be sufficient for the test? Or do i need to source out some deionized water?

 

[TOXSIN]

The thing with soap residue is that you won't see it and unless it's thoroughly rinsed with de-ionized water the chances are that the residue will remain. The napthta might be sticking and reacting with the residue leaving the oily gunk. Either that or you're right enough and your napthta is dirty. I'am surprised though that your ronsonol test gave the same results.

Yeah this has happened to me I thought my shit was contaminated then I did another test, one on a washed glass and another on an glass only washed in water and no soap my naphtha was fine, just use minimal amounts of soap scrub super hard use a pyrex dish and have a fan drying it make sure theres no lint or dirt in the fan either

 

[DeMenTed]

The thing with soap residue is that you won't see it and unless it's thoroughly rinsed with de-ionized water the chances are that the residue will remain. The napthta might be sticking and reacting with the residue leaving the oily gunk. Either that or you're right enough and your napthta is dirty. I'am surprised though that your ronsonol test gave the same results.

Will washing with white vinegar be sufficient for the test? Or do i need to source out some deionized water?

It should be but i don't know if vinegar evaps cleanly tbh

 

[jimmy4fingers]

The thing with soap residue is that you won't see it and unless it's thoroughly rinsed with de-ionized water the chances are that the residue will remain. The napthta might be sticking and reacting with the residue leaving the oily gunk. Either that or you're right enough and your napthta is dirty. I'am surprised though that your ronsonol test gave the same results.

Will washing with white vinegar be sufficient for the test? Or do i need to source out some deionized water?

It should be but i don't know if vinegar evaps cleanly tbh

Pretty certain the naphtha is leaving an oily residue. I just cleaned my mirror with 99% IPA, did the same test, got the same result. To confirm the IPA was cleaning/dissolving the oils off I sprayed the mirror wet and let it drip dry. The mirror came out clean.

I'll try the test again once I get my hands on some lab grade heptane.

 

[TOXSIN]

Also maybe try looking at an MSDS for the specific brand of fluid you're using if theres any impurities known it should be listed but sometimes even in very pure brands contams come through.

 

[TOXSIN]

Also don't ditch your 1 G of possibly contamspice dry it out very well get coupleclean razors chop it over and over like it was coke so its as dry and powdery as possible rewash when you find clean solvent and re-x that hopefully will yield a purer product without wasting your current potentially contaminated gram.

Follow up on this with some more experienced members though I'm not 100% certain if that would work but I would think it would maybe if you salt it then refreebase theres gotta be a way to save contaminated spice.

 

[DeMenTed]

Ah well if it's your napthta is leaving a residue fair enough. Just re-x your contaminated spice in warm heptane and it should be good. If you're really wanting to make sure of getting rid of impurities just convert to a salt and freebase again and pull with your heptane more experienced members might be able to give you better advice

 

[Mattafizz25]

You guys have an idea what i should do if i have liquid LSA with this naphtha? I tested it also but it left so little residue that i thought the glass was unclean ..... bad mistake as i already took one trip with it.

 

[vinelover]

I just tried an evaporation test with "Zippo Premium" and got the same greasy stuff. My can looks very similar, but not identical to the one pictured at the top of the thread. 25ml of fluid was placed into a 1/2 litre Pyrex measuring cup which had just been bought and never washed. I'll have to check out a paint store. Do I ask for "VM&P Naphtha"?, "Paint thinner"?, "a solvent"? I went to two Hardware stores. At the first store the employee said "ah yes, we sell naphtha as 'camping fuel". The bottle said "with rust inhibitor added". At the other store the employee didn't know what naphtha was, but directed me to "camping fuel". This can listed no ingredients, but I believe that it said "contains petroleum distillates". It looked like a no name brand and it said "warning: do not use for cleaning", so I decided that it looked sketchy and didn't buy it (I can't remember the brand). I'm not sure if there are any other real "hardware stores" in the smaller town that I live in. I guess that I could try big box stores like Home Depot (I hear that WalMart doesn't sell Naphtha).

 

[jfreak]

The thing with soap residue is that you won't see it and unless it's thoroughly rinsed with de-ionized water the chances are that the residue will remain. The napthta might be sticking and reacting with the residue leaving the oily gunk. Either that or you're right enough and your napthta is dirty. I'am surprised though that your ronsonol test gave the same results.

If you look at ronsonol bottles it says it a trademark of zippo lighter company. They got bought out or something so ronsonol and zippo are the same now.

 

[DreaMTripper]

Good to know and thanks for doing a product test.
Back salting should get rid of the contaminant it shouldnt be soluble in water. Zippo is a very light naptha but Ive also noticed a jelly residue after freeze precip that melted very quickly at room temp.