Ahhh, too much extracted stuff for me.

If I'm going to work with the vine, then I work with the vine.

Caapi Vine is something very special, and I personal have never come across anything that guides like real Caapi does...if you are only looking for the feel of caapi by all means continue, but if you are looking for real healing, work with actual vine.

Rue is more like a grumpy old man, yeah he'll take you where you want to go, but he does it on his time, and don't expect any help when you get where you want to go.   Caapi on the other hand is more like a gentle but stern motherly figure, who will take you where you want to go, but shows you so much more on the way there, and will hold your hand if you NEED it held (not want but need).  She feels much more in tuned with people than rue...even a good strong Caapi only brew will show you how powerful and healing she is.

Just my opinion, but I dislike all the Caapi extracts and "copies" out there.