Virdis frustration

[Virdisgrower]

currently 12 inches about, first was very slow to grow but grew after transplant to bigger pot. The bottom 6 inches look great but the top six inches are so wrinkled and parts of the leaves are white and discolored. As soon as the leaves emerge there so wrinkled that they just get entangled in each other and start ripping. Planted in Fox farm ocean blend, 10 inch pot. Waters every 4-5 days. 85w CFL coil. I doubt it humidity because my la pastora is doing great. Any help would be huge

 

[Muskogee Herbman]

sounds like light burn. psychotrias don't like bright light. they are an understory plant that gets filtered light through the tops of trees.

 

[skoobysnax]

sounds like light burn. psychotrias don't like bright light. they are an understory plant that gets filtered light through the tops of trees.

I second this.

I have an alleged Viridis that to me looks like Alba that behaved the same way indoors. When I moved her out in a shaded area that gets dappled light she got healthy. I have a bunch of small verified Viridis i was able to start fro leaf cuttings that i have to move inside VERY soon so let's keep tabs on our grows to trouble shoot.

 

[Muskogee Herbman]

I have quite a few small and decent sized ones. Feel free to ask any questions.

 

[skoobysnax]

I have quite a few small and decent sized ones. Feel free to ask any questions.

I am in Zone 8 which means bringing my PV inside for the winter in the next week or two before we have a frost. The plan is to diffuse the light in a corner with east and south facing windows. Do I need any supplementation light for the shorter days or is this OK to just let them slow down for the winter?

I am seeing the tearing that Viridisgrower spoke of on my P. carth (or alba, have not pinned down yet)She is about 3' tall and very healthy but the 2 newest sets of leaves are displaying this phenomena.

One note is today I smoalked a tiny bit of Changa and meditated beside them. I noticed a few whiteflies as i examined their leaves in close proximity so growers beware and be sure to keep your eyes out for these pests. Headed back out with the insect soap now...

 

[Muskogee Herbman]

Should be ok with out supplemental light. Its gunna slow down heavily anyway.

I'm in zone 10a so mine are in ground or in pots outside all year. Only bugs i get are this yellow scale that wasps seem to be farming.

 

[Virdisgrower]

I'm going to post some images. Sorry it's been so long. I've been busy with holidays and work. I'm also curious if anyone can definitely identify this as Viridis. It's under a 90w large single cfl bulb about 2 feet above

 

[Muskogee Herbman]

check the underside of the leaf for these offshoot things off the vein

 

[skoobysnax]

From the photo i think alba or carth but witout seeing the underside i dunno. From the way the leaf terminates before the stem it looks like one sold ro me as PV but was not even though the vendor holds firm to the claim. I love her anyway... some more misting will help the leaves. They will be crinkly until spring possibly though. Mine was like that until i moved her outside and is again showing the same signs indoors.

 

[kerelsk]

Your viridis looks crinkly like mine, which I think is due to low humidity

Viridis seems to have very high humidity requirements to grow normal flat leaves in my limited experience

 

[Continuum]

It looks like it might have spider mites or scale on the new growth?

 

[pinkoyd]

Rather than just humidity viridis requires actual water to help the leaves separate. Meaning spritz them every other day or so when leaves are forming. Sometimes they look like yours do for no apparent reason and they grow out of it eventually. The advice above to put them outside in warm weather is sound.

That said I think what you've got there is not viridis at all but rather alba/carth. Leaf veins are too far apart and at the wrong angle coming off the midrib, the leaves have distinct petioles and the stipules don't look right.

On the plus side, your Salvias look very happy indeed.

 

[Virdisgrower]

Well judging by the photo of the leaf veins its definitely not Virdis then I wish it was at least pretty! Lol. But yes 1 of the 2 Salvias are very happy! Very bushy, compact growth. Almost every node has a future potential clone! As you can see I'm attempting clones. They are tucked under the healthy mother (Norah). (Maya) the scraggly looking one is having an issue (deficiency) I'm trying to work out. I'm still in my first year of caring for the shepardess so I'm working out all the kinks.... i hope.

It's pretty disappointing that they didn't end up being viridis, but while researching active plants today I found that desmanthus illinoensis is native to my area and I believe I've seen it in the woods this summer, meaning I still have a crack at my own spice potentially. I would get some MHRB but Im skeptical of anyone selling MHRB after 2012, I don't know what the risk is if it's already in the states, but I'm still leary.. Should I be?

 

[Continuum]

You might join over at ShareTheSeeds.me. It's been pretty slow lately, but I imagine you might be able to score some true viridis leaves and advice on how to root them.

 

[pinkoyd]

Yeah there's a member over there that is pretty generous with sending out leaves.