Recently I finally began exploring the wealth of information here and came across some posts regarding the resin of Virola theiodora. Having experienced 5-MeO-DMT on several occasions in its pure hcl form, it intrigued me to learn about the resin, especially since the amount of work required to prepare it for use was minimal. Don't get me wrong, when I am working with a plant or plants for a long time, I really do start to dig in to the techniques and work of preparing the materials for use, but in the early stages, when I am just testing the waters, easy is good.
The resin material was a mixture of several different sized grains of a dark sap like color. One gram was prepared, first by grinding with a mortar and pestle until the material presented as a very fine powder. After reading through several threads, it seemed to me 69ron's ratio of 6% Calcium Hydroxide was the most thought out of anything I had read yet in order to make the 5-MeO-DMT into it's freebase form, so that's what I went with, adding just enough water to wet the powder, turning it a soil like color as I continued to mix the resin powder, calcium hydroxide, and water together. I let this dry for about 3 hours, continuing to mix it together as it dried. After the powder was clearly dry, I had my first experience with the resin...
12:32 am> Aprox. 75 mg of prepared Virola theiodora resin (made freebase with calcium hydroxide) on top of a bed of passion flower 10x material, smoked in a pipe...noticed a slight buzz while smoking, could be the passion flower. I did notice an increase in saliva, which is typical for smoking tryptamines for me. Within 2 minutes the buzz is even more prominent (although still mild overall) and I think for sure I feel a tryptamine type buzz from it now.
12:37 am> I'm definitely higher. I have the urge to keep closing my eyes. There is some sort of a pressure type feeling surrounding my head, especially around the temple areas and crown area. Everything is still relatively mild but I am definitely feeling something more than I have ever experienced off of the passionflower extract before. The material is definitely active smoked this way, no doubt. The next dose should probably be around 150 mg, or roughly double I would say. I am going to predict that it will be noticeably stronger, but probably still fall short of a break thru experience. I'm also noticing a small rush type feeling in my chest. Nothing overly speedy...it feels nice.
12:44 am> I notice that music is catching my attention in a special way. There is a semi tickly kind of feeling in the back of my skull, the feeling in my head almost reminds of the big head and big hands feeling I get sometimes from dxm (but also from ayauhuasca sometimes as well!). I feel like my mood has lifted a bit as well. If I scratch my fingers across my head I notice it feel nicer than normal.
12:48 am> I feel like the rush aspect might have settle a bit but the overall level of intoxication seems to have risen a bit more still. The big head feeling is very prominent. It feel like I can enter the space in my skull with my energies very easy, and almost feel something there, an energy glowing near the crown area.
12:59 am> slightly less intense but still present...
- I got ready for bed shortly after this point...was awake reading for the length of one chamomile and blue lilly tea. Awoke the next day feeling tired from the tea (potent stuff!) but otherwise pretty decent.
The the next day I went ahead with another trial...
4:20 pm> aprox 155 mg on top of a bed of passion flower 10x smoked in a pipe. After a few moments I can feel the head change begin. I soon am experience a nice sense of well being, altho still subtle at this point, but it points towards something larger it seems. There is a glowing sensation near the center of my forehead that grows in intensity when I concentrate on it.
4:23 pm> I'm feeling a sight tug towards grinning at the edges of my mouth and in my cheeks. The habitual sense of tiredness and stress that settle around my eyes seems to have lessened a bit. There is also a bit of the tangy-tingly sensation near the backs of my jaw and neck, similar to that feeling you get from drinking OJ sometimes. The feeling in my head has increased noticeably, and feels quite nice. This is pronounced by closing my eyes. Music is again starting to sound very nice and is catching my attention. The feeling in my cheeks has increased to a glow and my whole head kinda feels soupy in a good way...
4:31 pm> I'm most definitely buzzed, still got that great feeling in my head, but I think this may be as high as we fly on this trip to the clouds...feels like it has peaked, but I'll see for sure in a few mins...
4:41 pm> I am feeling real good and borderline euphoric...laughing comes easy and feels good. I'm chatting with a couple of friends about their problems with their significant others and feel a good deal of empathy towards them and their struggles...at the same time, it all makes me feel incredibly ok about being single for the moment.
4:55 pm> I still have a glowing feeling in my temples and feel pretty good overall but am definitely starting to drop in effect. I am noticing a bit of neck tension but nothing too bad.
After those two experiences, I am very much intrigued in further experimentation with this material. I appreciate the slower come on that it seems to have in comparison to the pure, lab grade 5-MeO-DMT. I have also read a few experiences of people using this material with maoi's, which is how I feel this material will really shine. I had experienced 5-MeO-DMT with syrian rue in the past and the experience was night and day from the experience of smoking 5-MeO-DMT straight up. Instead of the reverse free fall into the the white light that ends in a clonk over the head with a psychedelic frying pan, it became much more like an ayauhasca experience, especially the addition of Persian carpet like visual distortions. I will update this thread with new experiences as I am able.
The resin material was a mixture of several different sized grains of a dark sap like color. One gram was prepared, first by grinding with a mortar and pestle until the material presented as a very fine powder. After reading through several threads, it seemed to me 69ron's ratio of 6% Calcium Hydroxide was the most thought out of anything I had read yet in order to make the 5-MeO-DMT into it's freebase form, so that's what I went with, adding just enough water to wet the powder, turning it a soil like color as I continued to mix the resin powder, calcium hydroxide, and water together. I let this dry for about 3 hours, continuing to mix it together as it dried. After the powder was clearly dry, I had my first experience with the resin...
12:32 am> Aprox. 75 mg of prepared Virola theiodora resin (made freebase with calcium hydroxide) on top of a bed of passion flower 10x material, smoked in a pipe...noticed a slight buzz while smoking, could be the passion flower. I did notice an increase in saliva, which is typical for smoking tryptamines for me. Within 2 minutes the buzz is even more prominent (although still mild overall) and I think for sure I feel a tryptamine type buzz from it now.
12:37 am> I'm definitely higher. I have the urge to keep closing my eyes. There is some sort of a pressure type feeling surrounding my head, especially around the temple areas and crown area. Everything is still relatively mild but I am definitely feeling something more than I have ever experienced off of the passionflower extract before. The material is definitely active smoked this way, no doubt. The next dose should probably be around 150 mg, or roughly double I would say. I am going to predict that it will be noticeably stronger, but probably still fall short of a break thru experience. I'm also noticing a small rush type feeling in my chest. Nothing overly speedy...it feels nice.
12:44 am> I notice that music is catching my attention in a special way. There is a semi tickly kind of feeling in the back of my skull, the feeling in my head almost reminds of the big head and big hands feeling I get sometimes from dxm (but also from ayauhuasca sometimes as well!). I feel like my mood has lifted a bit as well. If I scratch my fingers across my head I notice it feel nicer than normal.
12:48 am> I feel like the rush aspect might have settle a bit but the overall level of intoxication seems to have risen a bit more still. The big head feeling is very prominent. It feel like I can enter the space in my skull with my energies very easy, and almost feel something there, an energy glowing near the crown area.
12:59 am> slightly less intense but still present...
- I got ready for bed shortly after this point...was awake reading for the length of one chamomile and blue lilly tea. Awoke the next day feeling tired from the tea (potent stuff!) but otherwise pretty decent.
The the next day I went ahead with another trial...
4:20 pm> aprox 155 mg on top of a bed of passion flower 10x smoked in a pipe. After a few moments I can feel the head change begin. I soon am experience a nice sense of well being, altho still subtle at this point, but it points towards something larger it seems. There is a glowing sensation near the center of my forehead that grows in intensity when I concentrate on it.
4:23 pm> I'm feeling a sight tug towards grinning at the edges of my mouth and in my cheeks. The habitual sense of tiredness and stress that settle around my eyes seems to have lessened a bit. There is also a bit of the tangy-tingly sensation near the backs of my jaw and neck, similar to that feeling you get from drinking OJ sometimes. The feeling in my head has increased noticeably, and feels quite nice. This is pronounced by closing my eyes. Music is again starting to sound very nice and is catching my attention. The feeling in my cheeks has increased to a glow and my whole head kinda feels soupy in a good way...
4:31 pm> I'm most definitely buzzed, still got that great feeling in my head, but I think this may be as high as we fly on this trip to the clouds...feels like it has peaked, but I'll see for sure in a few mins...
4:41 pm> I am feeling real good and borderline euphoric...laughing comes easy and feels good. I'm chatting with a couple of friends about their problems with their significant others and feel a good deal of empathy towards them and their struggles...at the same time, it all makes me feel incredibly ok about being single for the moment.
4:55 pm> I still have a glowing feeling in my temples and feel pretty good overall but am definitely starting to drop in effect. I am noticing a bit of neck tension but nothing too bad.
After those two experiences, I am very much intrigued in further experimentation with this material. I appreciate the slower come on that it seems to have in comparison to the pure, lab grade 5-MeO-DMT. I have also read a few experiences of people using this material with maoi's, which is how I feel this material will really shine. I had experienced 5-MeO-DMT with syrian rue in the past and the experience was night and day from the experience of smoking 5-MeO-DMT straight up. Instead of the reverse free fall into the the white light that ends in a clonk over the head with a psychedelic frying pan, it became much more like an ayauhasca experience, especially the addition of Persian carpet like visual distortions. I will update this thread with new experiences as I am able.
