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burnt

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a friend reported to me this dream and hence I will report in first person:

Recently while under the influence of mushrooms a weird experience happened that has happened before while on mushrooms and also on ketamine (IM). Relatives who have passed away made their presence known in my mind again. they assure me of things. This is deeply personal and moving. But it poses some very complicated questions.

I have no way of knowing whats real and whats not. If this is some kinda of contact with the consioussness of past relatives then the implications are profound. Its also just as likely that my mind uses this as a mechanism to cope with worries about death. Death does bother me because I have no real reason to believe in an afterlife which in some ways is nice because then I don't have to think of the complications of infinity but in other ways is quite saddening.


Has anyone else has similar experiences and what did they mean to you? Some experiences and ideas I have on psychedelics that sound good at the time later I think were nonsense but this experience is so personal its not easy to forget.
 
A friend was tripping on MDMA for the first time with her significant other, and near the peak she had a beautiful vision of her loved one in a comforting, assuring environment and state of mind. She was so overwhelmed by the beauty of it that she shared this dream/vision. The comedown was awful for her a few hours later in the early morning. The same day she received a call from family telling her that her grandfather passed away at the same time as her withdrawals were kicking in. The vision she had was pinpointed to about the same time her grandfather had fallen ill that evening from a stroke. Needless to say, she immediately considered the possibility that her elevated awareness from the drugs had opened up an amazingly clear channel of communication with the spirit realm.
 
burnt said:
thanks for your response. i just find these experiences so deeply moving and fascinating that i am curious to hear what others have to say. plus if i told some of them to my family they might think i am finally starting to lose it. :?
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Isn't it a pity that as soon as we speak of things that creep away from conventional thought, we are labelled mad people? How can we as a society grow, if the boundaries aren't pushed. Progress comes from forward thinking. If there is no forward thinking then there is only thinking that goes round and round in circles within the box. That's probably why we are in such bad shape... we're too dizzy...
 
I'd hate to say what this means either way. Personally, I've had some type of shit like that similar, and it was because things like dmt and mushrooms can get you really messed up. Also, I've had some really deep experiences with things like this. So really, it's hard to tell.

Some really spiritual things can happen, and some really weird things can happen when your high on psychedelics.
 
I know a girl who was visited by her grandad's ghost after she died. He came and sat on her bed and had a conversation with her. She wasn't even on anything!

The fact that lots of normal people see ghosts, without needing to be on entheogens, should reassure you that you're not losing it, Burnt. I saw a ghost when I was 7... a black robed monk, floating a metre above in the air, outside on a sunny day. Years later I found out that there used to be a building there hundreds of years ago from an old map. I don't even believe in stuff like that, I was already an atheist at that age... I just saw it and can't deny what I saw. It shook up my little worldview for many years and still does to this day. I am clinically sane etc, and I'm open to any explanation that can be proven. I await to see what science says when they finally get round to cracking the ghost problem (rather than denying its existence).
 
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