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polytrip

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What combines best with cactus? So far, from some posts here, i learned that xanthines (caffeine, theobromine, etc) and microdoses of datura go very well with mescaline containing cactusses, as well as THH. And also that bufotenine doesn't.
What more do you know? what about LSA, mushies, DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, etc?
 
SWIM took 100mg mescaline acetate, 100mg THH, and then about 2-3 hours later took a normal pharma dose...which was about 60mg dmt fumarate, 100mg THH, 50mg Harmine, 10mg harmaline..along with some ganja smoking..and he drank maybe around 8-10 beers throughout the night(there was no water:shock:)

was a VERY awesome night...beautiful conversations with the other people around...wasnt overwhelming at alll..was extremely sweet
 
SWIM likes 3 Datura stramonium seeds, 75 mg of mescaline, and a few strong cups of coffee spread throughout the trip.

That’s the most euphoric psychedelic mix SWIM knows of. It’s now SWIM’s favorite low dose psychedelic experience. Nothing beats that for SWIM.
 
A bit of ganja is nice...and I had an incredibly beautiful smoked spice trip on cactus once...the only time I've had the chance to try it, but highly recommended... :)

Lord I wanna try some THH at some point...
 
SWIM has tried 125 micrograms of LSA with 50 mg of impure mescaline (a full alkaloid extraction from San Pedro). The LSA dominated the experience and the LSA’s potency was increase about 10x. I think the non-mescaline alkaloids were responsible for the potentiation. The trip was extremely visual, very nice, but almost entirely an LSA trip. It peaked at 90 minutes! That’s the peak of the non-mescaline alkaloids, so I’m sure they were responsible for the huge increase in the LSA potency.

SWIM has also tried bufotenine with mescaline. The combination is not so good. The two sort of cancel out some of their positive effects leaving you feeling sort of blah. The bufotenine takes over the trip becoming almost entirely a bufotenine trip and then after the bufotenine wears off, the trip is nice again. Definitely not a combination SWIM will do again.

Yohimbe goes really well with mescaline, but SWIM never tried a high dose trip in combination with mescaline. I think that would make you too energized.
 
Jorkest said:
SWIM took 100mg mescaline acetate, 100mg THH, and then about 2-3 hours later took a normal pharma dose...which was about 60mg dmt fumarate, 100mg THH, 50mg Harmine, 10mg harmaline..along with some ganja smoking..and he drank maybe around 8-10 beers throughout the night(there was no water:shock:)

was a VERY awesome night...beautiful conversations with the other people around...wasnt overwhelming at alll..was extremely sweet
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Would be interesting swap fumarate for freebase :shock: :lol:
 
SWIM also tried 200 mg of tetrahydroharmine HCl in a capsule along with 50 mg of mescaline HCl (purified). The experience was quite euphoric and relaxed with lots of bodily euphoria. The THH blocked the stimulant effects of the mescaline entirely and boosted the potency of it by about 1.5x-2x.
 
Booze!
Actually potentiates the cactus, with torch at least. 5g of torch does virtually nothing to SWIM alone. But with a few drinks on a night out, everytime he blinks he can seen neon patches where the lightest parts of his vision were etc.
And the anasthetic and general good feelings combine nicely with high doses to counter some of the nausea, but SWIM doesn't know if this dumbs down the visions or not at this level because he's never had a full dose of cactus without some booze.
 
Mint helps with nausea, as does ginger.

I'd prefer NOT to add Datura (yes, yes I understand the whole low dose nausea thing, I read the posts), but it could be a possibility.

Maybe 1 Datura seed and mint and ginger...
 
SWIM does not smoke cannabis anymore. He became extremely addicted to cannabis many years ago and had to stop cold turkey. Same with tobacco. So those are the two things he’s not going to ever try mixing with anything else again.


Like most people, SWIM used to be very paranoid of using Datura stramonium seeds until he started doing a lot of research on them and found that, unlike a lot of the hearsay, there is actually a known safe dosage for the seeds with 10 recommended as the maximum herbal medicinal dosage and 20 as the maximum safe dosage. A seed contains usually about 0.2-0.4 % alkaloids with a maximum reported as 0.7%. Each seed weighs about 6-8 mg, with 10 mg being a super huge seed. So assuming a super huge seed with super potency at 0.7%, 1 such super seed could contain about 70 micrograms of alkaloids. The seeds are about 80% hyoscyamine and about 19% scopolamine, and traces of atropine. 70 micrograms of hyoscyamine is a very small dose. Doctors normally prescribe 400-800 micrograms to adults for various conditions. The maximum safe recommended dose is set at 1500 micrograms for hyoscyamine. That would be 21 super potent super huge seeds. So 1-3 seeds are EXTREMELY SAFE.

The seeds were used medicinally for a long time until the active alkaloids became more popular and pretty much replaced the use of the seeds.

Recently SWIM has been using them quite a bit and found that the 1-3 seed dosage is way too low of a dose to cause any negative effects at all for him.

So far all of the other psychedelics he’s combined with such a low dose have been really nice combinations.

For SWIM 3 Datura stramonium seeds + 75 mg mescaline HCl is the best most euphoric experience he’s had from anything ever. It’s now his absolute number 1 favorite mix. It’s nicer than mescaline is on its own, but it’s a slightly different experience, more LSD-like.
 
I completely believe you 69ron, no need to prove yourself again.

Could you PM me the source of those seeds, please?

Here is what I would suggest for the Cacti-Combo-

Mint- Make a pot of STRONG mint tea.
Ginger- Sliced fresh ginger root.
Cannabis- A single hit or two of the best Ganja out there.
Datura- A single seed or two (no more than three) ground and ingested.

Use these whenever you feel a hint of nausea. Do NOT over the Cannabis or Datura!!!

This is how I do my cacti experience. I make the preparation noted in Teotzlcoatl's Cacti Thread, and then use the above to ward of nausea! It works VERY well!!!
 
I'm thinking, nexr time i do cactus, i'm going to take something to ease some of the lasting side-effects. The nausea and stomach discomfort at the onset isn't that bothering, for me.

I had, as well during the onset as during the later half of the journey, some of the sour muscles that i normally get from a high dose of shrooms.
I'm thinking of something like GABA. Something that relaxes you, without having significant effects by itself. I would be taking it during the trip.
 
polytrip said:
I'm thinking of something like GABA.
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l-theanine? never mixed it with cactus, but 500mg-2g works for me to smooth out some other things. don't know about the sour muscles tho. I'm thinking that gaba-ergics will lessen the intensity trip, maybe because of hearing stories about people taking valium at the tail end of a trip to encourage the come-down and onset of sleep.
 
polytrip said:
I'm thinking, nexr time i do cactus, i'm going to take something to ease some of the lasting side-effects. The nausea and stomach discomfort at the onset isn't that bothering, for me.

I had, as well during the onset as during the later half of the journey, some of the sour muscles that i normally get from a high dose of shrooms.
I'm thinking of something like GABA. Something that relaxes you, without having significant effects by itself. I would be taking it during the trip.
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The sore muscles are likely caused by the vasoconstriction. Vasoconstriction is more likely with the whole cactus than with pure mescaline.

Try taking 100 mg of vitamin B3 (Niacin). It's a safe vasodilator.
 
Some Info on Combinations from the San Pedro Guide


LSD : When mescaline and LSD are used in combination, the recommended dosage is: 200 - 400 mg of mescaline with 100 - 300ug of LSD. This combination has been described as smoother, more mellow, and giving a longer experience than each used alone. Some subjects find this to be a rather trying trip, considering it as harsh with unpleasant somatic effects.

There have been a significant number of studies in this area in the mid to late 1950's. After giving a high dose mixture of mescaline and LSD to 74 chronic neurotics in the early 1960's, some surprising results were discovered. After 6 months, 12 subjects showed marked improvement, 22 showed some improvement, and the rest showed slight improvement.


Licorice Root - There is evidence that mescaline can be potentiated by drinking a tea made from licorice root (Glycyrrhiza glabra). 2 to 3 cups of strong tea are brewed and consumed at the start of or at the waning stages of the trip. It is said to increase the intensity of the experience by up to 3 times. This tea may contain MAOI's, so caution is advised.

Ginger Tea - I have also heard reports that a strong tea made of ginger would potentiate the effects of mescaline. No further details available.

Solanaceus Herbs - Peruvian curanderos have been known to add Datura (a solanaceous plant) to the boiled San Pedro extract to give it stronger powers of divination. Contains atropine, scopolamine and other tropanes. Use these substances with extreme caution.

Melatonin - I have heard a report that Melatonin ( available in most Health food stores ) will potentiate the effects of ingesting mescaline. The preferred and most effective method is to take 10-15mg before bed, a week in succession before the trip. If this is not practical, 20-25mg may be taken at least 12 hours before the actual trip. The later method works but is not as efficient as the week long method. It is said that the "7 day boost" used in conjunction with beta-carbolines (below) results in an "ultra-euphoric boost".

Moclobomide- There have been recent reports that this substance will markedly increase the intensity and duration of the trip.

Beta carbolines - Several people reported to me that they had potentiated mescaline with Harmala compounds such as Syrian rue (Peganum harmala). The average amount ingested was around 3-5 grams of powdered or extracted seeds. Powdered seeds can be put into gel-caps to hide the intense bitterness. It is said that this method can increase the intensity of the trip 3 fold, and up to double the duration. It is said that frequent use of this combination will bring about a marked tolerance. Exercise caution as harmala compounds are MAOI's. The preferred method of ingesting Syrian rue is the water extraction technique.
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The Licorice root tip is questionable as i read in a thread here - And Ginger is also just good against nausea. :?
 
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