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DeMenTed

DeMenTed

Barry
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Hello to all members, i have just recently discovered this new naturally occuring chemical (haven't tried it yet) tho and i'm just wondering what i can expect from it. After reading loads of testimonies etc the closest thing i can relate to in my own experiences as maybe coming close to spice is being at the dentist as a young boy, im 34 now. Back in the day when gassing kids to get their teeth out was the norm. I dont know what gas the anaesthetist used but i do vividly remember the dreams that i got from it. I was one of the kids who LOVED going to the dentist to get their teeth out :D most kids of course hated the thought of going there. I always used to get this strange and weird music in my dreams, i can never fully remember how it goes but it always left me with the feeling that it was the tune of life lol, accompanied by mega visuals that were like neon lights in long straight lines stretching to infinity, my soul would feel like it was on fire although not scary as i journeyed through the dream. I was only about 4-9 when i was getting the gas. I think thats what set me off on a lifetime of searching for a similar experience because i loved it so much. I have done lsd, liberty caps, pure mdma (snowballs and hurricanes) i think snowballs were mda tho, ive also done diphenhydramine (which i hated!) The only thing to come close to my childhood gasdreams were mdma but it still wasnt as vivid. Im going to set about my first extraction soon and i hope to procure the spice (hopefully that goes well) lol. im hoping that the spice will take me to and beyond my childhood memories. Im also very spiritual in my old age so hopefully i can attain true enlightenment :). Ive had ego death a few times and succumbed to the inevitibility of being so hopefully those experiences can ready me for my first breakthrough etc. If anyone has any advice to give to a trypyamine noob then please fire away :D.
 
When I took DMT I was expecting to see stars and galaxies wave around in front of me.

Instead, three gods confronted me on how I have created my own reality, and I am responsible for everything that is. I came out of it as if hit by a train. I had a hard time accepting what had just been told to me.

The thing is: expect the unexpected. Don't plan on meeting your childhood memories the first time around, you will be extremely suprised.

My guess is you will enjoy the experience though - but be aware that this, if taken properly, destroys everything you know.
 
GreenD said:
When I took DMT I was expecting to see stars and galaxies wave around in front of me.

Instead, three gods confronted me on how I have created my own reality, and I am responsible for everything that is. I came out of it as if hit by a train. I had a hard time accepting what had just been told to me.

The thing is: expect the unexpected. Don't plan on meeting your childhood memories the first time around, you will be extremely suprised.

My guess is you will enjoy the experience though - but be aware that this, if taken properly, destroys everything you know.
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Thanks for the reply :)
Yeah thats the thing that kind of scares me, the not knowing what to expect. I think im mentally prepared for any situation but the unexpected could be something that im totally not prepared for. I have an open mind and im quite content that i wont be dammaged by it. I need to find out though :D
Thanks again.
 
don't expect anything because its not even close to your wildest dreams or most fascinating imaginations. be willing to learn and to be shown new and exciting worlds. its nothing to be afraid of, but i still get nervous even after 20-25 experiences.

good luck with your travels and bring us back a story.

remember to take a slow, long, BIG hit and hold it in for as long as you can.
 
If you take the first hit properly... and its big enough you will not need more than one hit nor will you be capable of more than one hit. If the first hit is done right .. and you have good spice... you will experience complete ego loss, and death of the physical body .. ie you aren't aware you are alive to take a second or third hit... not being an ass (i catch myself saying that more and more lately, maybe i am being an ass, tho i dont think so.. just trying to pass on the wisdom of several thousand experiences) anyways not trying to be an ass but i think anyone who is still around after holding the first hit 25-30 seconds isn't coming close to smoking it right. I mean.. i haven't taken a second hit (for initial blastoff) since like the fifth or 6th time i smoked it. Like I said.. that atleast 10,000 + dmt experiences ago. Peace and godspeed... and no offense to your methods gamma...
 
Spiceman! 10,000 journeys! What do you bring back from that kind of experience? If some astronaut took that many space journeys to as many different planets(with sentient beings) over the years- I would ask him the same thing. I would love to hear you few most personally important insights, meaning that which is personally important you!

Hope I'm not crossing any lines here- but please brother, do tell! I'm just a little hyper-curious- what do 10,000 journeys teach a man?
 
DeMenTed said:
Back in the day when gassing kids to get their teeth out was the norm. I dont know what gas the anaesthetist used but i do vividly remember the dreams that i got from it. I was one of the kids who LOVED going to the dentist to get their teeth out :D most kids of course hated the thought of going there. I always used to get this strange and weird music in my dreams, i can never fully remember how it goes but it always left me with the feeling that it was the tune of life lol, accompanied by mega visuals that were like neon lights in long straight lines stretching to infinity, my soul would feel like it was on fire although not scary as i journeyed through the dream. I was only about 4-9 when i was getting the gas. I think thats what set me off on a lifetime of searching for a similar experience because i loved it so much.
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I'm pretty sure the gas was nitrous. I don't think many people get such intense visuals on nitrous though. I had this at the dentist as a kid several times as well. I remember one experience where I felt like I was floating within a big black sphere. That's the strangest experience I had - most of the time it just felt like floating on a cloud and I was still aware of everything that was going on.

As you may know, its pretty easy to get nitrous. You can sometimes buy nitrous balloons at concerts, or you can get cartridges used for making whipped cream and fill your own balloons for less money. Just read up on it and be safe. As an adult, I have easy access to nitrous and can use it pretty much any time I want, but I rarely use it because it seems to do little for me.

Spice is a completely different experience from nitrous, at least for me.

elphologist
 
welcome to the forums!

I'm in the same boat as you, but will likely enter hyperspace for the first time in a week or two.

To prepare myself, I've improved my meditation practices. I hope to go into the experience after a deep meditation so that I am not distracted, anxious, or even excited. Anxiety is the most important thing that I am trying to inhibit. I worry that my mindset, if anxiety exists, will make my first ride into hyperspace a bumpy one.
 
Welcome to the Nexus. As others have said, don't expect anything, because you can't prepare for or imagine what will happen. It will be wonderful. That's the only way I can describe it. Even when you get a large dose of the fear, it still ends up being wonderful! Just go with it and enjoy the show.
Nitrous oxide is the gas given at the dentist, and it is nothing like spice, for me anyway.

And another thing... a quick calculation tells me that in order to experience 10'000 spice journeys, you'd have to journey everyday, without ever missing a day for 27.4 years! I for one, don't believe everything I hear!

Take care, and have fun!
 
Spiceman said:
If you take the first hit properly... and its big enough you will not need more than one hit nor will you be capable of more than one hit. If the first hit is done right .. and you have good spice... you will experience complete ego loss, and death of the physical body .. ie you aren't aware you are alive to take a second or third hit... not being an ass (i catch myself saying that more and more lately, maybe i am being an ass, tho i dont think so.. just trying to pass on the wisdom of several thousand experiences) anyways not trying to be an ass but i think anyone who is still around after holding the first hit 25-30 seconds isn't coming close to smoking it right. I mean.. i haven't taken a second hit (for initial blastoff) since like the fifth or 6th time i smoked it. Like I said.. that atleast 10,000 + dmt experiences ago. Peace and godspeed... and no offense to your methods gamma...
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Spiceman, no offence taken bro.

But, there are alot of new comers here that dont have the years of experience you have, or thousands of blastoff's. Im sure anyone with time will get there tek sorted, and there smoking tek. But what we are talking about here is someone who doesnt have experinece(just take a look at the heading of the thread). Not everyone has lungs the size of baloons.

Telling a newcomer to take just one hit could result in an underdose, which in my opinion is not always pleasant.

I agree that if the first hit is taken right you can get there no prob, but that takes a few times to get right. I have gone through many a different smoking devices to find what works for me. No one showed me, this is something I had to figure out myself.

Different strokes for different folks as I said before.
 
Blackstatis said:
don't expect anything because its not even close to your wildest dreams or most fascinating imaginations. be willing to learn and to be shown new and exciting worlds. its nothing to be afraid of, but i still get nervous even after 20-25 experiences.

good luck with your travels and bring us back a story.

remember to take a slow, long, BIG hit and hold it in for as long as you can.
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I will bring back a story for sure and thanks for the advice :)
 
Spiceman said:
If you take the first hit properly... and its big enough you will not need more than one hit nor will you be capable of more than one hit. If the first hit is done right .. and you have good spice... you will experience complete ego loss, and death of the physical body .. ie you aren't aware you are alive to take a second or third hit... not being an ass (i catch myself saying that more and more lately, maybe i am being an ass, tho i dont think so.. just trying to pass on the wisdom of several thousand experiences) anyways not trying to be an ass but i think anyone who is still around after holding the first hit 25-30 seconds isn't coming close to smoking it right. I mean.. i haven't taken a second hit (for initial blastoff) since like the fifth or 6th time i smoked it. Like I said.. that atleast 10,000 + dmt experiences ago. Peace and godspeed... and no offense to your methods gamma...
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When SWIM makes the spice i think i will try and take 40mg in one hit for my first time, from what ive read that should give me blastoff :)
 
I'm pretty sure the gas was nitrous. I don't think many people get such intense visuals on nitrous though. I had this at the dentist as a kid several times as well. I remember one experience where I felt like I was floating within a big black sphere. That's the strangest experience I had - most of the time it just felt like floating on a cloud and I was still aware of everything that was going on.

As you may know, its pretty easy to get nitrous. You can sometimes buy nitrous balloons at concerts, or you can get cartridges used for making whipped cream and fill your own balloons for less money. Just read up on it and be safe. As an adult, I have easy access to nitrous and can use it pretty much any time I want, but I rarely use it because it seems to do little for me.

Spice is a completely different experience from nitrous, at least for me.

elphologist

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When i got the gas i was totally oblivious to the real world but i experienced conscious fully vivid dreams. I know spice wont be like those dreams really but im sure and hope it will be as vivid and memorable, cheers :)
 
Kartikay said:
welcome to the forums!

I'm in the same boat as you, but will likely enter hyperspace for the first time in a week or two.

To prepare myself, I've improved my meditation practices. I hope to go into the experience after a deep meditation so that I am not distracted, anxious, or even excited. Anxiety is the most important thing that I am trying to inhibit. I worry that my mindset, if anxiety exists, will make my first ride into hyperspace a bumpy one.
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Yes anxiety can play a major role which is why i used to take valium sometimes with mdma or lsd because it minimized a freakout. Im not sure if taking maybe a single valium then taking a good hit at spice would relax my mind and body enough to be able to handle a heavy spice trip or if the spice would completely override the valiums anti anxiety properties. I think ill skip the valium though and go for the full on experience :) cheers.
 
psilyguy said:
Welcome to the Nexus. As others have said, don't expect anything, because you can't prepare for or imagine what will happen. It will be wonderful. That's the only way I can describe it. Even when you get a large dose of the fear, it still ends up being wonderful! Just go with it and enjoy the show.
Nitrous oxide is the gas given at the dentist, and it is nothing like spice, for me anyway.

And another thing... a quick calculation tells me that in order to experience 10'000 spice journeys, you'd have to journey everyday, without ever missing a day for 27.4 years! I for one, don't believe everything I hear!

Take care, and have fun!
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Thank you :)
I'll try and blank my mind out when i take it and i wont expect anything, i'll let the spice take me to wherever it takes me. If its a really freaky trip then all i can hope for is that im still sane when it wears off lol. Ive put my mind in extremely stressful postions before and i think ive came out stronger, hopefully DMT is the same and it doesnt fry my brain! cheers! :)
 
Yup. Expecting the worst, expecting the best will only put you up to fail. What you want to do is go in blank, a clean slate, ready to be scribed with anything. This can be intimidating, but what I do is pretend I'm jumping from a cliff. It's scary - but you're going to land safely. so put a smile on your face, and leap.
 
GreenD said:
Yup. Expecting the worst, expecting the best will only put you up to fail. What you want to do is go in blank, a clean slate, ready to be scribed with anything. This can be intimidating, but what I do is pretend I'm jumping from a cliff. It's scary - but you're going to land safely. so put a smile on your face, and leap.
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LOL good advice cheers :)
 
I have had nitrous(in large doses) and dmt.

I can relate the blast off from nitrous to the blast off of dmt, the dissosciation.

But after you have actually blasted off, its an entirely different ball game.

Nitrous has each of your senses turn off and then turn back on and you see like some crazy patterns or just realise you know the universe but then the next second you dont.

DMT will give you exquisite impossibly complex geometric patterns, followed by possibly a breakthrough, which is just like dreaming.
 
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