What is Breaking Through Like?

[mardybum]

[quote:55e038b5c2]Are the colours and beings there as real as this reality? Can you hear sounds? I recently tried DMT and didn't breakthrough. Apart from the acid like visuals, the kailedescopic patters which i saw were more like the sort of imagery I see uner my eyes when I fall asleep. Like when you stare at the sun, and look at a wall, you can see the sun has sort of burnt a temporary spot in your eye there. The kailedescopic patterns were like that, I could still easily make out the environment around me, the patterns were sort of hard to make out, see through, you know, like a sun spot or something.. If I breakthrough, how much more vivid do the visuals become? Are they still like this? Or will my vision be completely filled with real colours. I really want to meet something out of this reality. What is your through process like? When I did it, my thoughts were almost exact to that when I was on acid, where my whole life became unfamiliar.[/quote:55e038b5c2] From SWIM.

 

[Garulfo]

[quote:e3304fa0e7]how much more vivid do the visuals become?[/quote:e3304fa0e7] I also wonder what is a breaktrought, but I can say that visuals are incredibly more bright and vivid than those one may see before sleeping or any other deep alpha state. They are not only geometric patterns but images of bright objects and live beeings, moving, changing and rotating at high speeds. To date SWIK was only able to enter in another dimension while under the mixed influence of zolpidem and DMT. But this was GREAT fun ! Pretty similar to lucid dreaming but much more 'alien'. However, SWIK felt recently a serious inner questionning state and he was appealed to dance with DMT only. Just two hits later (a small and a big one) and the almost familiar big body buzz happent. But that time, SWIK [u:e3304fa0e7]realized[/u:e3304fa0e7] some truths about what he was and what he was not, like feeling he was both unique and multiple at the same time and some other things that sounds crazy once written :shock: Thoses insights were pure intuitions + inner visuals. But in the end, the visuals are not that important. SWIK don't know if it can be called a 'breakthrough' but it was indeed a precious trip, not only 'fun' or recreative.

 

[mardybum]

He smoked DMT infusioinon, it was around 40-30% less potent than crystals. Shared by a generous friend.

 

[free spirit]

a true breakthrough expirience is unmistakable. you essentially go beyond the body, cease to be one w/ it, exist in a spirit or energy state, often you lose complete connection w/ ego (altho oddly enough ive had some intense breakthroughs that surrounded intimate details of my ego) and often you encounter entitites which can be very neat. often you forget your even on a drug, alot of people worry because they think they will forget to breath or their heart wont still beat. no worries tho. you hear things, see things that seem completely real. they have such a genuine quality that you seriously have a hard time believing its something your own mind could construct. i often hear very soft whispering/chanting in a feminine voice on alot of my breakthroughs that just speaks softly and constantly like background music as i witness all that i do. that isnt necesarily typical of a breakthrough. the visual imagery is something of delight, it really is amazing and fufilling but there is MUCH more to it than just some eyecandy. there are lessons to be learned... experiences to partake in..it is a cumulative effect that it is satisfying on so many layers that it all adds up to something unlike anything else in the world. some people are definitely more hard or soft headed for it, but the way you dose it and the set and setting can affect this as well. learning how to smoke it properly, and in what environment and in what mindset, all make the experience easier to get to. it is a learned skill just like anything. so dont feel bad if you dont get off like a hardcore spicehead has the first few times.. try try try again... the end is worth it. it tends to clear up lots of questions you might have about a variety of subjects, but mostly life, and death, and existence. breakthrough is very hard to describe, but unmistakable once attained. non breakthroughs can be ok as long as you got a decent dose in you. i dont like threshold dmt voyages.. ugh... but ive had some medium dosed spice trips where w/ my eyes open i was encountered by these cloud spirits that when i ran my hand through them, it got saturated by the humidity and droplets formed on my arm... they were soo real! in fact i was stupified that my wife sitting next to me couldnt see them... then she reminded me she hadnt smoked any.. lol.. ok i ramble now. the biggest lesson on breaking through on spice i could offer would be to COMMIT. dont take a little hit and then a big one. take as big a one as you can from the beginning, then try for an equally big one everytime after. repeat well after you start to feel something. repeat until you cant function the bowl anymore. sit somewhere darkish.. comfy.. close your eyes.. and let go. do not resist.. just go limp.

 

[fredyjenkins]

1) loss of body awareness and loss of surrounding physical space. 2) just before the said '' breakthgough '' , a sensation of going through a tunnel and/or a grid like electronic energetic fibbonnaci crysantheneum. 3) entering a kind of '' room '' that feels like a cybernetic cafe from hyperspace or a alien spaceship. 4) meeting with entities, and this is for real, not just some murmur ect. They are right in front of you, you have no awareness of the physical world anymore. Sometimes they ( the entities ) are cool, sometimes they are just annoying and sometines... well sometimes they are bad motherfuckers with an agenda and a desire to rape your soul. :shock: 5) The ringging sound of the apocalypse ( gotta love it ). Lots of people began to hear/feel a kind of buzzing sound. It's kinda insect like but with a technological twist to it. To me it feels/sounds like an epileptic thermonuclear reactor that operates a lawn cutting machine from the sixties lolol. I'm pretty sure that sleep paralysis and temporal lobe epilepsi is almost the same experience. humm.. Now i understand those chantings monks in the hymalaya. Basically, you will know it for sure. Once it happens, you know. But these 5 criteria are really, really common stuff

 

[cilosyb]

A breakthrough is tough to describe, but you'll certainly know if you're having one. It is an immersion in another world/reality/universe/etc. It can be totally unlike anything you've ever seen or experienced while alive...it's almost extrasensory in a way...you experience sounds, colors, etc in an entirley different manner than usual. And somehow it is strangley familiar, more like you've forogtten about it than are completely new to it. There are usually a lot of things happening very rapidly and it is very hard to remember the details, or to put them into words, which you soon realize are a vastly limiting means of communication. It can totally shatter you belief structures and identity. It is very real, and very profound, for me much moreso than anything in our world. free spirit did a great job on the description.

 

[XENONSION]

[quote:bd53ed3f04]Are the colours and beings there as real as this reality? Can you hear sounds? I recently tried DMT and didn't breakthrough. Apart from the acid like visuals, the kailedescopic patters which i saw were more like the sort of imagery I see uner my eyes when I fall asleep. Like when you stare at the sun, and look at a wall, you can see the sun has sort of burnt a temporary spot in your eye there. The kailedescopic patterns were like that, I could still easily make out the environment around me, the patterns were sort of hard to make out, see through, you know, like a sun spot or something.. If I breakthrough, how much more vivid do the visuals become? Are they still like this? Or will my vision be completely filled with real colours. I really want to meet something out of this reality. What is your through process like? When I did it, my thoughts were almost exact to that when I was on acid, where my whole life became unfamiliar.[/quote:bd53ed3f04] It sounds like you reached a level II trip. I too have experienced the 2d translucent geometric visuals that you described. My first few trips were like this. My surroundings seemed to breathed and distort, and the geometric visuals were rotating on everything. I felt and electrical energy throughout my body, a tingling that pre-empted these visuals. During those trips, I found that closing my eyes gave the visuals life, full color and more enjoyable. This was not a breakthrough experience of course. I smoked up a few friends with some spice, and they seemed to not have nearly the experiences i had been getting from the same batch. One friend took 4-5 good tokes, and said he didn't even get any visuals. I take 3 lungfulls and am blasted into space, lol. It's odd how differently everyone reacts or tolerates it. I think they may have been hesitant in their first time though. After a couple trips, you'll figure it out. The key is to get as much into you as you can in a short amount of time. Hit after hit until you are incapable of anymore. It will take you however far you are willing to go, but you can't stop early and expect a breakthrough.