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Easiest method for changa, this may sound stupid but so far i just have not been understanding the methods lol.


any and all help is greatly appreciated.
 
Herb or mix of herbs you like infused with spice and harmalas. Ratio herbs and spice 1:1 or 2:1 and for 1g of herbs I would use around 200mg of harmalas.

Dissolve spice and harmalas in IPA add herbs and let evaporate. Thats it

Read about changa here
 
Keep in mind for changa you need something with an MAOI like Caapi leaf.
Anything else is ______ enhanced with dmt.

Take a jar.
Put your Caapi leaves in it. Use the amount you want to be changa, weigh it.
Fill it with Naptha enough to cover the leaves.
Mix in the DMT you want to use. Do the math to figure out the weight % you want, that's up to you.😉
 
Ime, acetone or ipa is preferable to naphtha as it evaporates (dries) faster and is less likely to get trapped anywhere in the mix.
 
1g leaf, 1g DMT, 200mg Caapi freebase extract, all mixed in with IPA. You will need to stir the hell out of the harmalas, so add them to the IPA first, then the spice, then the leaf. Ideally you want just enough solvent to cover the leaf - stir every hour or so until it has all evapped for a nice even distribution. The fun part is experimenting with different petals, leaves etc for optimum smoalkage 8)
 
I see the 1g plant substrate to 1g spice ratio a lot. Is this a strong mix? I'm just thinking I could puff through 1 gram of anything in no time and then I have an awful lot of spice running through my noggin. If I just wanted to keep a low level trippy feeling rolling would I want a mellower ratio? Or is changa meant more to be smoalkable ayahuasca in essence and it needs to have some power behind it to produce more deeply moving effects?
 
1:1 is strong, I suppose (I mean, this is dmt we're talking about ;)), but it is gentler than pure dmt and I would not want to make a weaker changa blend. You can always 'dilute' a 1:1 ratio with other, non-enhanced herbs. 1:1 is a good ratio for needing minimal material for solid and easily repeatable (as far as dose of dmt) experiences. With lower concentrations, the distribution of dmt on the herbs may not be as even and can make for relatively inconsistent dosing.
 
Pup Tentacle said:
I see the 1g plant substrate to 1g spice ratio a lot. Is this a strong mix? I'm just thinking I could puff through 1 gram of anything in no time and then I have an awful lot of spice running through my noggin. If I just wanted to keep a low level trippy feeling rolling would I want a mellower ratio? Or is changa meant more to be smoalkable ayahuasca in essence and it needs to have some power behind it to produce more deeply moving effects?
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You can do any ratio you like, you will just have to smoke more to get the equivalent effects - which some think is good and vice versa. I have some 3:1 Caapi leaf:Spice Changa which is great, but I find its best in a bong, where as my 1:1 stuff is fantastic in my GVG - you don't have to be quite so careful with the 3:1, i don't use a scale for that, but I have to always weigh the 1:1 as it is pretty damn potent and one big lungfull will get you very very far. The more leaf you have though, the more 'plant spirit' will be present as well. Maybe this is just psychological, but I have noticed different 'character' in each of my blends.
 
Purges said:
Pup Tentacle said:
I see the 1g plant substrate to 1g spice ratio a lot. Is this a strong mix? I'm just thinking I could puff through 1 gram of anything in no time and then I have an awful lot of spice running through my noggin. If I just wanted to keep a low level trippy feeling rolling would I want a mellower ratio? Or is changa meant more to be smoalkable ayahuasca in essence and it needs to have some power behind it to produce more deeply moving effects?
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You can do any ratio you like, you will just have to smoke more to get the equivalent effects - which some think is good and vice versa. I have some 3:1 Caapi leaf:Spice Changa which is great, but I find its best in a bong, where as my 1:1 stuff is fantastic in my GVG - you don't have to be quite so careful with the 3:1, i don't use a scale for that, but I have to always weigh the 1:1 as it is pretty damn potent and one big lungfull will get you very very far. The more leaf you have though, the more 'plant spirit' will be present as well. Maybe this is just psychological, but I have noticed different 'character' in each of my blends.
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Excellent, this is what I wondered. I'm not worried about hot spots, I have a method for this sort of thing. I gather a number of my own herbs so hot-damn! I'm on my way!

Thanks and blessings!
 
i was just thinking maybe some spice infused cannabis? sound good? maybe dissolve spice in ipa then pour over cannabis to dry?
 
alot of people say that but honestly i think the cannabis keeps me from freaking out like it keeps anxiety from a trip under control. but hey we are all different someone might have totally opposite opinions. but i do like the take a hike idea with a weak blend but you really could make it quite intense just add more spice
 
cannabis is great
spice is awesome

together the cannabis is overshadowed and is a thicker smoke than necessary, especially considering the viscosity and harshness of the spice smoke.

its definitely a personal thing, but more often than not i find that repeatative users dismiss the notion of using their buds to host the spice, theyd rather appreciate them separately for a multitude of reasons
 
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