When do you repot your cacti and how often do you water babies in winter?

[Al-Wasi]

I have some lophophora and bridgesii seedlings both around six months old. Wondering how long before I should repot them? There's about six in each planter now although they seem abnormally small for there age. Maybe due to underwatering?

I've only watered them once this winter as I've been told to be very sparing with water over winter months.

Can anyone give me an idea of how big most of these babies should be at around six months old?

 

[GOD]

My opinion ---- >

I can only speak from my expeience = growing over 1000 and from all the books that i have ever read that talked about growing peyote .

I grew them in a tray untill they were somewhere between the size of a pea and the end of my thumb . Then they were repoted into the pot that they were going to spend their whole life in . Mine didnt like being repoted . They then get left in the same position all their lives = somewhere with NO direct sunlight .

I have NEVER seen any expert recomend giveing peyote water in winter . I have read that OTHER cacti can be given small amounts if they start to shivel up . In my opinion they only do that when its hot and it isnt dangerous anyway .

It doesnt like standing in water or haveing wet roots for weeks . In sommer it gets watered a few times and the substrate is allowed to dry before it gets water again . In winter if you give it water it rots and dies because the temperature isnt high enough to evaporate it ....... and peyote have a dormant period in winter .

As to growing them for internal use ......... it can take a peyote up to 30 years to get to a size to use . Native americans have been reported to use doses of 30 buttons = 30 X 30 years . Some have been reported as eating more buttons as if they were eating peanuts as a snack .

When they are babys they can take a hell of a lot more water ...... but sometime they have to be hardened off and after that repoted . That was always the most delicate stage and the stage where the most that died died .

Mine always did MUCH better in a pure mineral substarte with NO soil . Any kind of soil retains water wich is then a substrate for contamination . We need something that we can put water on and it dries quickly . That way they can double in size in one sommer .


As for fertilizer . Very rarely and only a quater strength .

Gardeners need patience . Especialy with Peyote .

 

[d*l*b]

Images would help us to give you better advice, but from the information supplied…

I have some lophophora and bridgesii seedlings both around six months old. Wondering how long before I should repot them?

I would repot them when they outgrow their containers.

I've only watered them once this winter as I've been told to be very sparing with water over winter months.

Personally, I don’t water at all in the winter months unless I have them under lights.

Can anyone give me an idea of how big most of these babies should be at around six months old?

There is huge variation in size and form which will depend on environment and genetics. There is no “should be”.

 

[Al-Wasi]

Thanks a lot for the info. Will upload pics.

 

[jamie]

Id be watering those every day at that size..I am speaking from experience also.

You can get peyote to the size of a golf ball from seed in 9 months with certain growing techs and grafting. Another member here does it.

I water my pea sized peyotes at least every 3 days right now in winter in a window.

 

[Al-Wasi]

Thanks man. So much conflicting info. Thinking im Gonna water them.

 

[GOD]

" So much conflicting info. "

Get yourself a book by an expert and read that . The book has been proof read by experts and open to public scrutiny = If its still on sale its probably not got big mistakes in it .

Maybe one like this one as its by native americans who grow Peyote for other native americans to use in their ceremonys ---- >

The Peyote Handbook by Guy Mount . ISBN 0-9604462-3-0 Its from 1987 .



Please keep us informed of what you do and what happens .

 

[jamie]

ummm here is a pic of my trich seedlings in a window in winter that I water every single day atm...I think it speaks for itself..look at those little tiny things and look at these..

 

[Al-Wasi]

How much water do you give them daily?

Those are huge compared to mine.

Jealous. Very jealous

 

[jamie]

I soak the soil with a spray bottle..trichs are a lot more water loving than people assume. I dont treat them as if they are desert plants..when I did that..well they were tiny and small like yours, and my mature trichs looked skinny and sparse and did not grow much at all...with rich compost soil added to the mix, compost teas added, microorganisms, full sun outside and drenching them at least every few days if not daily and leaving them out in the rain Im getting about a foot of nice fat green blue growth a year..in the farthest SW corner of canada.

 

[jamie]

here check out this peruvianus...first pic treated as if it's some desert plant that cant take drenching, rich soils and composts etc...and then the same cacti now after treating it more like a jungle plant than a desert plant...I don't water the mature trichs for 4 months in winter though when I bring them indoors..but when young they need water all year.

 

[GOD]

Peyote and Trichocereus come form diffeent parts of the world and grow in different conditions .

I made it clear that i was talking about Peyote .

Trichocereus Pachanoi and Peruvianus can stand in water for days at a time if the weather is hot . They also grow FAST ....... BUT ...... unless things have changed the ones that are grown in full sun light and / or are given more water are weaker = its not worth trying to force them to grow fast .

Its easy to see if the light and water its getting are right . If it isnt they dont grow consistently .

The biggest problem for a lot of entheogen growers is over " care " .

 

[Al-Wasi]

Definitely have to water my bridgesii more often. I was thinking somethinf was off due to them.bring the same size as the peyote's when I've read they grow much faster.

Hopefully they'll start growing once I start watering more often.

 

[jamie]

"unless things have changed the ones that are grown in full sun light and / or are given more water are weaker = its not worth trying to force them to grow fast ."

Pretty sure things have changed. Ive been told by people who have 25+ years experience growing peyote fast, that that is not true.

Also, I water my peyote very often and it's pretty common knowledge that when young like that they should have humidity.