When spice does not work.

[SoulCrushingBass]

So my last time, with my last spice, I started with my usual small hit to get the signal and feel out the energy. Then i had to shit. My gut gurgled and I could not wait.

After, I was ready, but my aim was selfish, my motives impure.

I smoalked about 40mg and mostly nothing happened. I know it was good stuff. I had very subtle cev's,.but the signal was gone. I was rejected.

Respect the spice.

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

It definitely happens, as you noted impure intentions has quite a bit to do with it (I guess "impure" generally means "not-too-serious" or "flippant" for me).

Don't try to re-dose if this occurs; this opened the door for me to "antihyperspace", the realm of Dark Entities and various malevolent forces. Now that that door is open, it can occur occasionally without warning and it took a month or so of very difficult psychospiritual work for me to get back on the Spice's good side. And that work couldn't be done with the Spice, it had to be done with Jurema/harmal. I went into the experience with the intention of learning from those beneficent spirits about the nature of the Spice and the entities which led to one of the only two oral DMT experiences with very clear entities. Jurema and Harmel called them, showed them to me, and protected me from them so that I could explore their nature and have a discourse with them without the deep fear that I had for them with vaporized DMT alone.

The Spice must be respected as the interdimensional vehicle that it is, so much more than just a drug (that is mostly metaphorical of course).

Keep up the good work. Best of luck to you

 

[somethingsintheway]

I generally categorize my DMT trips in three: First is the outer world, it feels like i definately exit this reality and go somewhere else. Second is the inner world, where i travel deep within myself. Finally, there are the experiences where I go nowhere. I have always viewed these experiences as the spice providing me with healing. I believe it can provide healing without you having to see visuals. The spice does what it wants sometimes

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

I generally categorize my DMT trips in three: First is the outer world, it feels like i definately exit this reality and go somewhere else. Second is the inner world, where i travel deep within myself. Finally, there are the experiences where I go nowhere. I have always viewed these experiences as the spice providing me with healing. I believe it can provide healing without you having to see visuals. The spice does what it wants sometimes

It was Definetly cleansing. Psychedelics do that when I've had bad diet. Nothing like being at the threshold and getting water shits. I don't see spice as a drug. To me its just a catalyst. The divine spark.

 

[VisualAnemia]

I think you expect to much, it's one of the strongest hallucinogenic medicines known to mankind.
If you've had any experience with other psychedelics you know how much the same substance may differ from time to time.

In my experience, DMT differs enormously each time, it does have some characteristics but the whole thing is never to assume or expect.

I believe it's far to complex and alien, or maybe too natural? For us to understand.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

I think you expect to much, it's one of the strongest hallucinogenic medicines known to mankind.
If you've had any experience with other psychedelics you know how much the same substance may differ from time to time.

In my experience, DMT differs enormously each time, it does have some characteristics but the whole thing is never to assume or expect.

I believe it's far to complex and alien, or maybe too natural? For us to understand.

I expect too much for wanting effect from the strongest drug in the world? Lol. This isn't my first rodeo friend.

 

[scudge]

^This is one of the most valuable pieces of information a traveler can sponge from this site.

Respect the spice.

No matter where you sit in life, atheist, agnostic, religious, spiritualist or whatever does not make any change in the ass kicking you will receive. I almost was under the notion that vaporizing all together was one the highest sacrilegious offenses, now I know how silly that sounds, just meant to be used moderately, which is so hard to do :twisted:

All this fear eventually led to not vaporizing at all, since than I've had a light but extremely powerful and healing experience with Ayahuasca and Chacruna. Also plan on taking the full plunge with a ruemosa tonight with an old friend.

 

[Astro_traveler]

So my last time, with my last spice, I started with my usual small hit to get the signal and feel out the energy. Then i had to shit. My gut gurgled and I could not wait.

After, I was ready, but my aim was selfish, my motives impure.

I smoalked about 40mg and mostly nothing happened. I know it was good stuff. I had very subtle cev's,.but the signal was gone. I was rejected.

Respect the spice.

How unusual that you post about this right before I posted about this, It sounds really weird but.... - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus . Something very similar happened to my friend but he full on let go. This was a few days ago but I barely posted about it today.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

So my last time, with my last spice, I started with my usual small hit to get the signal and feel out the energy. Then i had to shit. My gut gurgled and I could not wait.

After, I was ready, but my aim was selfish, my motives impure.

I smoalked about 40mg and mostly nothing happened. I know it was good stuff. I had very subtle cev's,.but the signal was gone. I was rejected.

Respect the spice.

How unusual that you post about this right before I posted about this, It sounds really weird but.... - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus . Something very similar happened to my friend but he full on let go. This was a few days ago but I barely posted about it today.

I've had a few sudden urges right after vaping. It's odd because before there was absolutely no urge whatsoever. Psychedelics have a way of giving me bubble guts once in a while. Or ill blast off, and say, "really?!, I have to piss THAT bad right now?!"

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

It definitely happens, as you noted impure intentions has quite a bit to do with it (I guess "impure" generally means "not-too-serious" or "flippant" for me).

Don't try to re-dose if this occurs; this opened the door for me to "antihyperspace", the realm of Dark Entities and various malevolent forces. Now that that door is open, it can occur occasionally without warning and it took a month or so of very difficult psychospiritual work for me to get back on the Spice's good side. And that work couldn't be done with the Spice, it had to be done with Jurema/harmal. I went into the experience with the intention of learning from those beneficent spirits about the nature of the Spice and the entities which led to one of the only two oral DMT experiences with very clear entities. Jurema and Harmel called them, showed them to me, and protected me from them so that I could explore their nature and have a discourse with them without the deep fear that I had for them with vaporized DMT alone.

The Spice must be respected as the interdimensional vehicle that it is, so much more than just a drug (that is mostly metaphorical of course).

Keep up the good work. Best of luck to you

Still having trouble.50mg last night. . It was like a fight, of light and dark. I saw very slight cevs and felt very insectoid. A hive mind type thing. The spice was clean, but felt like needles, and my bones hurt. There were odd symbols on my glass pipe, and there was no wind in the closed room but the flame was BENDING AWAY FROM THE PIPE! Like some force really didnt want me to vape.

 

[changalvia]

Based upon MY experiences I would take that as a sign, the whole flame bending kinda thing. You don't have to (and probably won't - I didn't) but it will most probably turn into a waste at some point. If you experience little to no effects my advice is not to try again for a day or two.

One evening I was fed up with my inability to receive experiences and I ended up vaping 8 times in one night for a total of 240mg's spice in vain. The only effects I got was on a double dose (60mg) where I saw a near invisible outline (green) of a face smiling back at me on the wall. It was a big face. And I got the feeling the whole of hyperspace was present, just hiding in plain sight and they were 'teasing' me to see how far I would push myself.

At that moment I smiled/laughed back at hyperspace and just thought " You don't want to let me in yet? Fine. " And fell asleep.

Very strange the way we go blind like this for unspecified periods of time at random