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Who had telepathic communication with other humans on DMT?

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Jerzeecanuck

Jerzeecanuck

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Howdy,

I was just wondering who else had this happen to them. Every trip that I've been on when there are people around me, I can sometimes sense what they are feeling/experiencing. And vice versa. When my experiences get strong enough, they can feel it and even react to it. For example: After my first yopo trip I was laying in a hammock in a tent. I felt cold and I noticed there wasn't any wood left to put in the stove. I was upset and soon as I laid back down, the medicine man arrived with freshly chopped wood.

I am thinking this is a side effect of DMT?
 
Jerzeecanuck said:
Howdy,

I was just wondering who else had this happen to them. Every trip that I've been on when there are people around me, I can sometimes sense what they are feeling/experiencing. And vice versa. When my experiences get strong enough, they can feel it and even react to it. For example: After my first yopo trip I was laying in a hammock in a tent. I felt cold and I noticed there wasn't any wood left to put in the stove. I was upset and soon as I laid back down, the medicine man arrived with freshly chopped wood.

I am thinking this is a side effect of DMT?
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I'd personally think of it as a side effect of your mind, on dmt.
 
On LSD I saw a bright light in between a friend and myself, My friend saw it as well, I saw him look at it. We immediately started apologizing for things that happened in this life, previous lives, and before we even had earthly bodies, all without spoken word. I realized he wanted to kill me, and I still believe that he had done so in a past life. I know people will think this sounds delusional, but when you have shared thoughts with someone many times you tend to trust your gut when you hear another persons "Inner Voice". This has happened to me with a few close friends, I have had entire evenings never opening my mouth but being able to communicate with inner dialogue. I once talked to a friend of mines actual non earthly eternal spirit, he doesn't remember it in his earthly body however, he dared me to end the dream and leave all of this behind, I have been tempted many times to stop dreaming, but the time has not yet come for us to go. "I" can not go with out the rest of me, which is what people believe to be themselves, we are all one regardless and will leave as one.


Shared madness is a term known as foil a deux in French. I assure you there is nothing mad about it, it is very real.
 
I have even had conversations with animals and nature. These beings don't even speak my language. But I know for certain it happened. I run into the problem of science a lot. People wanting proof of things not seen with physical sight, but when you accept the possibility that there is a power greater than "I" then the universe will allow glimpses of its true nature to be shown, It's important to remember the omens that you can find, once you have experienced it, which I might add is how one learns anything be it scientific or spiritual, then no one can change your mind.
 
ntwhtyouknw said:
I have even had conversations with animals and nature. These beings don't even speak my language. But I know for certain it happened. I run into the problem of science a lot. People wanting proof of things not seen with physical sight, but when you accept the possibility that there is a power greater than "I" then the universe will allow glimpses of its true nature to be shown, It's important to remember the omens that you can find, once you have experienced it, which I might add is how one learns anything be it scientific or spiritual, then no one can change your mind.
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Science explains things to a certain point. I used to be all about science until the spiritual world showed itself to me. I just wanted to confirm that psychedelics magnifies the psychic abilities in some people. Mostly to make sure I'm not going nutzoid. lmao. Thanks for your input!
 
I had an intense mushroom trip once where I couldn't talk for 6 hours. My close friend, who was on a lower dose, and me had full on telepathy the whole time. It was a magical night.
 
Ritalin said:
I had an intense mushroom trip once where I couldn't talk for 6 hours. My close friend, who was on a lower dose, and me had full on telepathy the whole time. It was a magical night.
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Was it like the movie "The Shining" where Scatman Crothers and the little boy could talk with their minds?
 
Our minds certainly heard each others thoughts, but the majority of it was the realization that most communication is non verbal. Also I could hear everyone in the areas thoughts kinda like bruce almighty when he could hear everyone's prayers.
 
Man, telepathy is a mild word for the connection between me and other people on DMT. It's a much stronger and continuous connection.

During my second trip everything just unified itself. All sounds, colors, emotions, thoughts, voices, bodies, people... I started crying - my tears turned into orbits that turned into sounds that turned into colors that turned into people that turned into me. It was everything at once. All emotions, all memories, all senses, all illusions, all "facts", all colors, all shapes, all songs in the world, all people with their music, tears, hopes, colors, lies curled in a big ball of truth. Nothing I ever write about it could ever BE it. Nothing I say could ever make you see it. Describing it is useless. There are NO WORDS for it. Words are nothing but lies when it comes to truth. So it makes no sense talking about it, writing about it, trying to convey it to others. They are part of it anyway, so why bother? They won't see it unless they're ready, no matter how vehemently you want to show it to them. And if you're enlightened, you wouldn't wanna show it to them anyway. Cause nothing really matters after seeing the big picture. None of your small, pathethic wants and problems.

After enlightenment you see that enlightenment is nothing special. It's not like the world falls appart in front of your eyes, and you see it's not real. No, it's real but it's just a very superficial layer of reality. Just like Steven Norquist said - it's like a 3D picture - the dots are still there, you just don't see the depth of it all.

And yeah - wake up first, and then you won't need any practices, any books, any teachers, after seeing it there's no need to confirm it again and again. It CANNOT be forgotten.

So what's left? Well, having fun in the dream, enjoying silence cause words suck, loving people around you cause you're all in the same fucked up mess.

P.S. I kinda got carried away, sorry... :)
 
It's a lot like autumnsphere says in his first sentence, telepathy is really a mild way of putting it. It's more like an emotional connection, like Terence used to say its where I just seem to know on some deep level what the other person means. There have been a couple of times though where I've had direct thought-to-thought transfer.

Also worth mentioning that this effect has been more pronounced for me on psilocybin than any other psychedelic.

The couple times its happened to me have been peculiar to say the least. On one particular occasion while tripping with my girlfriend, I had this conversation in my internal mindspace with an entity I refer to as Teo (see signature). I had asked Teo if my girlfriend was really real or just a figment of my imagination, and he responded by saying "she is the same as you. What you love in her you also love in yourself, her body is just a vessel." No sooner did Teo say the word 'vessel' that my girlfriend sat up, looked at me and asked 'What's a vessel?'. I was stunned and asked her why she wanted to know and she responded by saying "I don't really know, I just had this weird thought that my body is just a vessel... but I don't know what the word vessel means!". I didn't tell her about hearing it a few seconds before she said it as it had already been quite a strange night (I had tried to convince her during this particular trip that I was god and somehow managed to reclaim my original identity and the entire world would be radically changed by this... needless to say it was a bit megalomanic to say the least but this was one of my first trips).

The other time this happened was when I had a crazy night with some of my friends. We were tripping around a campfire and they were talking quite a bit amoungst themselves. I sort of just let my mind wander, and I don't know what prompted me to try this but I asked in my mind if my friend sitting next to me could hear me. I did this a few times, and finally he jumped up pretty freaked out and yelled "Guys! Does anybody else feel like there is someone inside your head right now!?" I didn't tell him what I was doing, so I just sort of left it alone.
 
ntwhtyouknw said:
I have even had conversations with animals and nature.
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Could you describe these conversations? Because something very similar happened to me just a couple of days ago.

Tek said:
My bad :(
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No worries, there's no such thing as blame in my world... or at least I try.
 
Very awesome experiences! Seems like telepathy is just the tip of the iceberg. More like receiving and transmitting brain waves. Almost like doing a Vulcan mind melt. Allowing multiple minds to act at one. Maybe this is how mankind survived in early history. Hunting while on mushrooms allowed a tribe to become extremely efficient.

Wow, imagine if the whole human population took dmt or mushrooms all at once!
 
autumnsphere said:
Man, telepathy is a mild word for the connection between me and other people on DMT. It's a much stronger and continuous connection.

During my second trip everything just unified itself. All sounds, colors, emotions, thoughts, voices, bodies, people... I started crying - my tears turned into orbits that turned into sounds that turned into colors that turned into people that turned into me. It was everything at once. All emotions, all memories, all senses, all illusions, all "facts", all colors, all shapes, all songs in the world, all people with their music, tears, hopes, colors, lies curled in a big ball of truth. Nothing I ever write about it could ever BE it. Nothing I say could ever make you see it. Describing it is useless. There are NO WORDS for it. Words are nothing but lies when it comes to truth. So it makes no sense talking about it, writing about it, trying to convey it to others. They are part of it anyway, so why bother? They won't see it unless they're ready, no matter how vehemently you want to show it to them. And if you're enlightened, you wouldn't wanna show it to them anyway. Cause nothing really matters after seeing the big picture. None of your small, pathethic wants and problems.

After enlightenment you see that enlightenment is nothing special. It's not like the world falls appart in front of your eyes, and you see it's not real. No, it's real but it's just a very superficial layer of reality. Just like Steven Norquist said - it's like a 3D picture - the dots are still there, you just don't see the depth of it all.

And yeah - wake up first, and then you won't need any practices, any books, any teachers, after seeing it there's no need to confirm it again and again. It CANNOT be forgotten.

So what's left? Well, having fun in the dream, enjoying silence cause words suck, loving people around you cause you're all in the same fucked up mess.

P.S. I kinda got carried away, sorry... :)
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i think that you are right. to me the 'connection' is one that can be chosen or not. i feel i can move my perspective around at will to resonate with someone's words, and try to hear what they are really saying. the problem is interpreting the intensity of the emotion, because it may be amplified by other voices.

""""Words are nothing but lies when it comes to truth. So it makes no sense talking about it, writing about it, trying to convey it to others. They are part of it anyway, so why bother? They won't see it unless they're ready, no matter how vehemently you want to show it to them.""""

I agree with this. (and see the paradoxes), but if you don't speak about it, then the only people who do, are the ones who don't really understand. because it cannot be spoken about, doesn't mean that others shouldn't try to allude to a truth that is obvious to their eyes..

"""if you're elightened, you wouldn't wanna show it to them anyway. Cause nothing really matters after seeing the big picture.""""
if """nothing matters""" after seeing the ""bigger picture""", then elightenmet is unquestioned nihilism.
i can't understand this attitude at all. what sort of enlightened person wouldn't want to help someone else? unless their enlightenment is a delusion, and a belief???

peoples reactions to words are just as enlightening as realizing that they keep us in binary mechanical thinking. because not all opinion is expressed and read by ballanced minds. some people hold on to delusions so tightly that they become incapable of believing anything else; whilst claiming an open mind. the paradoxes of language and the real world are not the same thing.

no enlightened person can experience infinity or god, because they realize that the state of mind necessary for experiencing those ''things'', are encountered beyond the fixed definitions of language. if language is meaningless to an enlightened person i can understand that. but to say god or infinite or to say that we are all interconnected in mind --outside of language -- is something that misleads people entirely. because the concepts cease to exist when the words cease to exist -- which is the place of pure unquestioned experience.
 
ntwhtyouknw said:
" Allowing multiple minds to act at one"

There is only one mind
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one person
one mind

sees many people all the same as him

and thinks

we all have one mind?

not- we all speak the same language and so most people think in complete predictable logical ways reacting to the logical and ignoring the illogical so that there is a stream of dissemination of delusisional opinions which are

good

because it allows some people to be telepathic!

with no language, we'd all be telepathic. people need their delusions in mainstream society
but dmt smokers follow suit???

when it used to be called t e le p a t h y?

we seeee..... whos free
if there's one mind

why tell anyone?

is that notwhatuknow to be fact..... that you believe in?
that one mind is your mind.


projected



infinitely
in a delusion of grandeur.
 
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