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kev

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Heya peeps and fellow psychonauts.

I am fairly experienced with LSD and Mushrooms but am new to the DMT thing. I have tried it a few times and got the most amazing visuals I have ever seen however I have yet to experience a full threshold dose.

First time I tried it I was using some DMT infused herb thing that I was told I could just smoke like weed. I tried this a couple of times (once whilst on acid) and got the crazy visuals but nothing more. My friend tried it too but didn't really feel any effects.

I read the guide on Erowid and figured I could use a bong with no water and a mesh in the cone piece. I put straight DMT on the mesh and held the lighter above it and inhaled slowly... nothing... didn't even look like I was getting any vapor. Eventually I let the flame touch the DMT and it appeared to melt but no visible vapors and no effects.

Then I tried the sandwich method. I put some oregano in the cone piece, DMT then more Oregano. The bong had water in it this time. I was able to achieve a similar level as my first experience when I smoked it like I would normally smoke weed. Again, my friend (who has been interested in DMT for years) had no effects.

My friend is a relatively unusual case in that she's experienced with psychedelics but has smoked weed on very few occasions. When she does smoke it, she goes slowly, inhaling small amounts of smoke at a time. She believes her lungs aren't very large and can't fit any more. This is why she didn't feel any effects either time; in both cases that worked for me, we were smoking it the same way we would weed. She tried inhaling deeply and holding it last time but no luck. She said it felt like it burnt her lungs (which made me a bit concerned).

So that's why I'm here, I'm trying to figure out what next.

I've seen a lot of conflicting information on this site about how best to take it so I'm a bit confused. It seems that smoking it burns the DMT and makes it less effective so I think we could use a better technique. Also, due to the lung capacity issue my friend has, I'm thinking the balloon method might be worth a shot.
 
Hi thanks for the links, much appreciated.

Does DMT actually do anything if you swallow it?

I'm very interested in making the Inspirator MKII I'm reading through the wiki and am really struggling to wrap my head around how it works.

My first question is, is the vapor harsh and will there be issues breaking through if the user has low lung capacity?

I tried reading through the thread about it but got more confused. Maybe someone can help me understand how it works.

My understanding is as follows:

Basically it consists of a glass dropper stem (thinner then your normal bong down pipe) that is inserted into a normal bong with an appropriately sized grommet to hold it in place.

There's some sort of container (is this what's referred to as the 'plug' in the wiki?') for the spice (not quite sure how this works) that gets inserted partway down the dropper stem.

A heating element containing ceramic wool is inserted into the end of the dropper and there's a gap of air between the spice 'container' and the heating element.

The heating element is heated with a butane torch and the user sucks in slowly to fill the bong chamber with vapor.

Once the chamber is filled with vapor (I assume this is visible) the user should then inhale deeply and hold his breath for as long as possible. This is repeated until all the vapor is gone

Am I sort of on the ball with how this works? How does the spice 'container' work?

Edit:
PS I'm listening to the audiobook: 'DMT: The Spirit Molucule' at the moment and loving it.
 
Right, orally meant in the form of Ayahuasca. I would really prefer to smoke it if possible.

I've been doing some more research and have found some things.

The method I first tried with the bong, I was probably melting the spice into the downpipe and that's why I didn't feel anything.

Vaporising is apparently the best method. With regards to the Inspirator MKII, does anyone know where I can get this magic Superwool 607 HT in Australia?

It seems that I have to melt the spice into the plug container in the Inspirator MKII, how would one go about doing this without burning the spice? Also, the plug appears to be a bunch on meshes rolled up, this will be able to hold the spice?

I looked through the thread about it and it appears that it was originally for the MK1 version, thus my confusion.

I also understand that a butane torch style lighter is best, is this correct?
 
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