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halten

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Finally, SWIM got around to trying DMT. After two long years of research, learning, and wondering they finally got to try this curious little chemical.

Unfortunately, SWIM needs to refine their smoking method. Perhaps it's their new Vapor Genie that needs adjusting (if anyone has some tips for using it, please share!), or the fact that their cheap scale floats from 0.00 to 0.03 or .04. In the end SWIM eyeballed a small dose and after calming his nerves, dove in.

The crystals seemed to liquify, but no real vapor was seen. Only after probsbly burning the spice was there any vapor. What followed wasn't anywhere close to a mindblowing experience, but at least significant proof that it works.

SWIM experienced the usual body load with psychadelics that he seems to get, a stiffening of the neck and this weird "head space" feeling. When he closed his eyes, faint patterns were seen and perhaps a glimpse of the chrysanthemum? However, these visuals were nothing more to SWIM than that of mushrooms or LSD with closed eyes.

Slightly a let down, as SWIM has anticipated today for years. However, it was a nice, short introduction to the spice! :d
 
Also, SWIM experienced no OEV's, except a slight "fogginess" to the room at one point.
 
benzyme said:
nice

the more u vape, the further in u'll get

Thank you! I'm just really worried that SWIM isn't controlling the temperature well enough.
 
Better to take it slowly than catch the fear. Sure you'll get plenty of advice for working with the GVG.
 
ragabr said:
Better to take it slowly than catch the fear. Sure you'll get plenty of advice for working with the GVG.

That was the approach, espeically since dose had to be eyeballed. Rather get slight visuals and body load than get catapulted somewhere else right away :p
 
1) Put 6-8 screens in the Vaporgenie
2) Melt your spice into a plug made out of pre-burned/washed copper scrubber (a la The Machine)
3) Hitch up your underoos
4) Hit the VG with a jet lighter (but don't directly torch the element)
5) Kiss the mantis
 
Jet lighters are pretty expensive where I live, could you not get away with a regular bic?

For what it's worth, I have a small creme brulee blowtorch (the benefits of being in the culinary industry). It's a rather larger flame, but it's the closest I can get. Would that work?
 
I've wondered about that actually - but probably, yes. A real jet lighter makes all the difference with the VG. You can always get a cheap one online for like $10.
 
halten said:
...SWIM experienced the usual body load with psychadelics that he seems to get, a stiffening of the neck and this weird "head space" feeling. When he closed his eyes, faint patterns were seen and perhaps a glimpse of the chrysanthemum? However, these visuals were nothing more to SWIM than that of mushrooms or LSD with closed eyes.
That’s how I sometimes feel when I under-dose.

Don’t worry about burning your DMT if you’re using a Vapor Genie – I don’t think it’s possible. I use a torch lighter and get aggressive with it, and I’ve never managed to burn my spice.

If you’re really gentle, the vapor will be invisible. I was very careful with the lighter my first try with my GVG, and I thought I was doing something wrong: no smoke, felt like I was just inhaling warm air. Then, of course, it hit me hard.

Surprise! :shock:
 
Thanks for the replies guys! SWIM bought some screens and is gonna have another go tomorrow morning.
 
oh yeah that description def sounds like under dosing.. I really dont like under dosing, rather go for the full thing. Hold each hit for as long as possible, and take as many hits as you physically can! Dont stop when you start feeling the weird headspace, keep going!! :D
 
endlessness said:
oh yeah that description def sounds like under dosing.. I really dont like under dosing, rather go for the full thing. Hold each hit for as long as possible, and take as many hits as you physically can! Dont stop when you start feeling the weird headspace, keep going!! :D
Oh yeah man, kid_eternity went for the gold last time out. he had no idea how many he got in him but :shock: heeeelllloooOOOO!!!!!

a warm bautiful tapestry of love and kid_eternity was swimming in it was it loved it for infinity and eternity squared. Just unbelievable.









fictional account of kid_eternity's latest adventures forthcoming.
 
A small hash pipe with a deep bowl 1 screen a bed of ash 50mg of spice, melt spice into ash. spark lighter away from bowl then bring to the bowl n start sucking making sure u dont touch the spice with naked flame. Easy peasy :D breakthru at ur leisure ;)
 
SWIM tried again this morning, again no luck, but it's getting better. A bed of caapi leaves were used along with 4-5 extra screens. However, I don't think SWIM held in the vapor long enough, which is why there is less of an effect.

Either way, getting closer! :lol:
 
Nice halten! SWIM's experience with the Machine suggests not to start pulling until a good cloud has formed. Then inhale as deep as you can, holding it in as long as you can.

Also, the Caapi may make it more difficult to tell how much spice vapor is there; not having used the GVG, can't say for sure. Using a copper mesh like Art suggests works wonders. Perhaps separate, and vape the caapi and wait a couple of minutes. Then use the mesh loaded with spice.

Be cool, be well!
 
Whoa...

Just took a hit to clear out my VG, to use for some other herbal remedies. My intent was just to play some ukulele so my TV is on, tons of distractions, etc. I figured it would just be another underdose.

Things started shifting as I expected, and when I closed my eyes, there were no patterns, but very very faint visuals. I think I almost saw the "start" of an entity towards the end. Most excitingly, I heard my very first carrier wave!

I really wish I had prepared more and taken another hit, but alas my intentions weren't right. However, I definitely know that your expectations can always, always be shattered!

My ukulele sounded really good, too :d
 
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