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You can count me in with the 40ish psychedelic renaissance club as well, I definitely relate to a lot of the things that have been said here by pretty much everyone. :thumb_up: Unlike the OP I did have my share of significant experiences "back in the day", the majority of which were great. But things strayed in a bad direction and after scaring my wife a few times with freakout flashback trips, a very long break was in order. After being together for what felt like at least a few lifetimes we split up 5-6 years back, and the time since then has been very transformative, mostly in an intellectual/spiritual/personal awakening sort of way that didn't start including psychedelics until more recently, as the next step in my development

I've been easing my way back into psychs for nearly a year now, and even though I currently have the means for a deep changa or aya session, I'm still not in any big rush for my next attempt. There's a lot of reality that needs dealing with at the moment, so I consider it a bad time. Maybe in a few weeks. But for whatever it's worth, I'd +1 all the advice you've already gotten. You've been offered an abundance of wisdom! Take it a step at a time, and be particularly careful about salvia, even if it's convenient. I've avoided that one myself. A rare few like your friend seem to get along really well with it, and maybe you would too, I really don't know you well enough to guess. But based on the overall impression I've gotten from reading many many reports, I'd consider it like diving straight into the deep end.

At this point I have little choice but to deeply respect (and somewhat fear) these substances, and have done everything I can to avoid rushing back in recklessly. Naturally, the order I've progressed in seems like the most logical one to me. :lol: Not including previous LSD use, I started last year with mushrooms (mostly low dosages), then vaped DMT, DMT enhanced leaf, and oral maoi+vape. Usually attempts are seperated by at least a month for integration of lessons learned before moving on. So far, none of these experiences seem to qualify as what the veterans here would call a breakthrough, although it's pretty hard to imagine how anything could possibly get much more intense. :surprised

Next up are "real" changa (smoked DMT+MAOI), then the full on oral ayahuasca experience. Beyond that, if it feels like I'm in the right state of mind to handle it, other ayahuasca variations and possibly even Iboga (which sounds like about the most intense psychospiritual/physical ordeal a person can go through, short of dying). And then, MAYBE, way down the line, I'll feel ready for salvia. :roll:

<blockquote data-quote="Crazyhorse" data-source="post: 3591815" data-attributes="member: 17287">You can count me in with the 40ish psychedelic renaissance club as well,&nbsp; I definitely relate to a lot of the things that have been said here by pretty much everyone. :thumb_up:&nbsp; Unlike the OP I did have my share of significant experiences &quot;back in the day&quot;, the majority of which were great. But things strayed in a bad direction and after scaring my wife a few times with freakout flashback trips, a very long break was in order. After being together for what felt like at least a few lifetimes we split up 5-6 years back, and the time since then has been very transformative, mostly in an intellectual/spiritual/personal awakening sort of way that didn&#039;t start including psychedelics until more recently, as the next step in my development&nbsp; I&#039;ve been easing my way back into psychs for nearly a year now, and even though I currently have the means for a deep changa or aya session, I&#039;m still not in any big rush for my next attempt. There&#039;s a lot of reality that needs dealing with at the moment, so I consider it a bad time. Maybe in a few weeks. But for whatever it&#039;s worth, I&#039;d +1 all the advice you&#039;ve already gotten. You&#039;ve been offered an abundance of wisdom! Take it a step at a time, and be particularly careful about salvia, even if it&#039;s convenient. I&#039;ve avoided that one myself. A rare few like your friend seem to get along really well with it, and maybe you would too, I really don&#039;t know you well enough to guess. But based on the overall impression I&#039;ve gotten from reading many many reports, I&#039;d consider it like diving straight into the deep end.&nbsp; At this point I have little choice but to deeply respect (and somewhat fear) these substances, and have done everything I can to avoid rushing back in recklessly. Naturally, the order I&#039;ve progressed in seems like the most logical one to me. :lol:&nbsp; Not including previous LSD use, I started last year with mushrooms (mostly low dosages), then vaped DMT, DMT enhanced leaf, and oral maoi+vape. Usually attempts are seperated by at least a month for integration of lessons learned before moving on. So far, none of these experiences seem to qualify as what the veterans here would call a breakthrough, although it&#039;s pretty hard to imagine how anything could possibly get much more intense. :surprised&nbsp; Next up are &quot;real&quot; changa (smoked DMT+MAOI), then the full on oral ayahuasca experience. Beyond that, if it feels like I&#039;m in the right state of mind to handle it, other ayahuasca variations and possibly even Iboga (which sounds like about the most intense psychospiritual/physical ordeal a person can go through, short of dying). And then, MAYBE, way down the line, I&#039;ll feel ready for salvia. :roll:</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crazyhorse, post: 3591815, member: 17287"] You can count me in with the 40ish psychedelic renaissance club as well, I definitely relate to a lot of the things that have been said here by pretty much everyone. :thumb_up: Unlike the OP I did have my share of significant experiences "back in the day", the majority of which were great. But things strayed in a bad direction and after scaring my wife a few times with freakout flashback trips, a very long break was in order. After being together for what felt like at least a few lifetimes we split up 5-6 years back, and the time since then has been very transformative, mostly in an intellectual/spiritual/personal awakening sort of way that didn't start including psychedelics until more recently, as the next step in my development I've been easing my way back into psychs for nearly a year now, and even though I currently have the means for a deep changa or aya session, I'm still not in any big rush for my next attempt. There's a lot of reality that needs dealing with at the moment, so I consider it a bad time. Maybe in a few weeks. But for whatever it's worth, I'd +1 all the advice you've already gotten. You've been offered an abundance of wisdom! Take it a step at a time, and be particularly careful about salvia, even if it's convenient. I've avoided that one myself. A rare few like your friend seem to get along really well with it, and maybe you would too, I really don't know you well enough to guess. But based on the overall impression I've gotten from reading many many reports, I'd consider it like diving straight into the deep end. At this point I have little choice but to deeply respect (and somewhat fear) these substances, and have done everything I can to avoid rushing back in recklessly. Naturally, the order I've progressed in seems like the most logical one to me. :lol: Not including previous LSD use, I started last year with mushrooms (mostly low dosages), then vaped DMT, DMT enhanced leaf, and oral maoi+vape. Usually attempts are seperated by at least a month for integration of lessons learned before moving on. So far, none of these experiences seem to qualify as what the veterans here would call a breakthrough, although it's pretty hard to imagine how anything could possibly get much more intense. :surprised Next up are "real" changa (smoked DMT+MAOI), then the full on oral ayahuasca experience. Beyond that, if it feels like I'm in the right state of mind to handle it, other ayahuasca variations and possibly even Iboga (which sounds like about the most intense psychospiritual/physical ordeal a person can go through, short of dying). And then, MAYBE, way down the line, I'll feel ready for salvia. :roll: [/QUOTE]