Why is my fumaric salting so inefficient?

[moyshekapoyre]

Namaste nexians!

So I'm wondering why I am doing so much FASW salting...

Solubility of fumaric acid in water is 0.6g/100mL. I use 1L of water and saturate with fumaric acid, so it's 6g of fumaric acid in there. And that should suck out 12g of DMT from my limonene. YET, I find that after salting with 1L of FASW, I can use another 1L of FASW and it is still changing color and tastes like DMT.

So, obviously I am a bit chem-naive. What's going on here? There's no way I've been getting more than 12g of DMT from one limo pull.. well, I haven't measured (just been throwing the liquid onto changa and evapping), but I'm fairly certain I did measure at one point and it was more like 3-5g of red DMT per limo pull from 1kg of bark.

Has anyone else been feeling a little over-salted?

 

[moyshekapoyre]

I think maybe it's because I'm using cold water... no hot water in the basement.

Also I find that FASIPA sucks out more impurities than FASW, but of course it also sucks out a lot more dmt...

I guess one of my main questions is, why am I doing so many pulls? I find myself doing like 10 pulls and still getting DMT-tasting and colored FASW out. Is it really not worth doing more than 3 or 4 pulls with the d-limo?

 

[chemisch]

yeah. im pretty new to using to using fumaric acid but making a saturated water solution can be useful in some situations but keep in mind water disolves salts and fumaric acid is a salt it makes no sense unless you dont mind product loss you can still save your dmt by evaporating it all and disolving with pure acetone or isopropanol. which arent to hard to find at hardware stores even 70 percent isopropanol is gonna give you better yeilds

 

[endlessness]

Im not sure if I understand what you say chemisch, are you sure you understand what the process of FASW salting is about?


moyshekapoyre, are you sure its really still DMT being salted out, or maybe other impurities ? Did you try yielding/bioassaying the latter pulls separately to see if indeed there are alkaloids still being salted?

 

[Infundibulum]

yeah. im pretty new to using to using fumaric acid but making a saturated water solution can be useful in some situations but keep in mind water disolves salts and fumaric acid is a salt it makes no sense unless you dont mind product loss you can still save your dmt by evaporating it all and disolving with pure acetone or isopropanol.

Yeah man, this sentence makes no sense, it's important to be able to make (at least) some kind of sense!

Also, fumaric acid is not a salt, it's an acid:wink:

 

[Xt]

Make sure the FASI is dry by the way.