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OrangeShade

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Greetings all,

Just want to say its great to be around people that know what it is to have these amazing experiences with the spice. It does feel like a real community here. SWIM has probably tried spice a dozen or so times now and so far it has been very enlightening indeed. SWIM would say he is pretty versed in the tripping world and has had some amazing experiences on psychedelics, mostly acid, with his brother. Just seems to be our thing for some reason. But the reason im writing this now is that SWIM and his brother had a psychedelic experience the other day like no other. The more SWIM thinks about it, the more mad it seems!

At a music festival in a tent in the early hours of the morning, SWIM and his brother decided to do a hit of spice together. Normally they take turns, but ever trying new things, decided to see what it is like to both journey. Sitting in the tent, listening to some didgeridoo and tabla, great music to do dmt to by the way, really creates a good headspace! Both took hits off a vaporizer.

All SWIM can say is that the bulk of the experience, forgetting the initial blast off with all the patterns and textures, ended up focusing on one particular thing. One object. So amazing that SWIM knew the importance of what he was seeing (at the time anyway). It seemed to be a crystal, so brilliant and so important. It seemed as if it was the seed of something, maybe something being formed. It was bright magnesium white in the middle and seemed to have thinner crystals around it that were moving back and forth growing out then receeding. There were swirly things flying off the crystal as it radiated. All happening very quickly like it was on fast forward, it felt almost like looking at an atom or something so small. A metallic electric sound was also eminating from the crystal. It was like witnessing magic being created, that was the feeling.

When SWIM and his brother opened their eyes, now this is the weird bit and I still find it hard to type this....both saw and described the crystal, the feeling that it was somehow magical, something forming, crystalizing, a feeling of alchemy. All these words were used by both of us. How is this possible? SWIM and his bro have tripped many, many times together, prob over 150 or so seperate occassions, mostly liquid acid, had some really interesting experiences and been in some great head spaces, but nothing that comes close to a shared vision like that. It was enough for SWIM to get on here as soon as he could to write about it and ask if other people have had similar experiences.

Is it possible we could be meeting in some shared headspace? This stuff really does continue to blow me away. Not only is it a really interesting psychedelic to experience in terms of the visual world you enter into. SWIM and his bro both love this. But also the feeling you get from this sacred spice, a deeper understanding of things, a feeling of being more awake and alive, peace, of beauty, love. Without sounding too cliche' our experiences with DMT so far has affected us in a really positive way.

This shared vision in the tent was a really intense psychedelic experience though, more so than all our other trips together, all the emotions could be felt, the special-ness of the situation when we started to talk (still half tripping). SWIM and his bro knew that they would never ever forget that experience. It felt like we were alchemists or something, privvy to some special crystal that no one has evr seen. The feeling that we would one day look back on our DMT days and the one that would stand out, would be that. But shared visions/journeys? How crazy can this spice get! :)
 
Wow, that's an amazing experience! Very glad you shared. It reminds me of some research I've been doing for years on lucid dreaming but more specifically shared dreaming. I have never found success in this area. I always wondered if a day of psychedelic journeying with an extremely close friend/partner (or brother) would somehow increase the chances of a true shared dream.
I have never had such a closely knit experience with a fellow journeyman/woman such as you describe although I have seen/heard of other similar accounts before. I'm sure as you say it really will stay in your memory for a very long time. If I were you I'd do further research into this experience with your brother, perhaps recreate a similar setting consistently over an interval of time, therefore increasing your chances of success again! If you find this to be a reoccurring experience please continue to post experience reports about it! I know myself and many others would be interested. Good luck!
 
I second Turk's motion, it is certainly worth trying again, if you are up to it.

If it is repeatable, another exciting step would be to try and sense each others presence while you are in that place. It would be extraordinary if you were able to contact with each other through that space.
 
It's very possible that you did indeed have a shared experience. To be a little skeptical, I see objects with pretty accurate details to the way you described it on a fairly regular basis, so I wouldn't be too surprised if it turned out that you both observed what could be a common aspect of the experience. On the other hand, it does sound like you had an eerily similar experience, so it very may well be that you were sharing a vision.
 
It was intense. SWIM cant tell you how it felt to hear his bro say he saw the same thing, it felt weird and just plain spooky. SWIM and his bro are very close brothers. Acid has always been their thing, SWIM and his bro do it like some people, their own way, going to ancient burial mounds, stone circles/tombs, music, candles etc. Sometimes with friends, sometimes just the two of them. Some great experiences and revelations have been had in the past, but this really did take the biscuit! It was that profound.

As SWIM and his bro sat there in the tent, they did say that they could try and toy with this a little. See if there is something there, some connection. It sounds weird, but this whole DMT experience just defies words anyway. You try to make sense of it in some kind of logical way at first but how can two people describe not only the same object, but the feeling or vibes that they were getting. Things like using the same words, magic, a feeling of being alchemists (which was a very psychedelic pleasant feeling) linked with this crystal thing. The music in the background was some ambient bongos and didgeridoo which gave it a whole tribal/ancient feel. Made SWIM feel very connected :)

SWIM needs to share some great music with you all to journey to as well. This stuff is incredible to do DMT to and SWIM definately knows some of you will like it! Probably cant post that here so will look for another forum on the site....still finding my way around!......as I am with many other things ;)
 
Turk22 said:
Wow, that's an amazing experience! Very glad you shared. It reminds me of some research I've been doing for years on lucid dreaming but more specifically shared dreaming. I have never found success in this area. I always wondered if a day of psychedelic journeying with an extremely close friend/partner (or brother) would somehow increase the chances of a true shared dream.

This is an interesting area and not something i have thought of until now. It could be just a total fluke. But there was just something about it. Overall it was a fantastic evening anyway, a little journey earlier and with my eyes open my fingers and hands looked totally alien then the fingers morphed into a organic machine, very strange. And then in the morning outside the tent, another hit as the sun came up on a beautiful day!
 
Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience. This is real evidence that all these trips are not made up by our branes. The places we travel are real as reality we are in now. I wish I can do this with my wife one day.
 
Psychedelic drugs like DMT allow you experience events such as ego death werein your consciousness often times merges with the physical space-time continuum, as sort of union between the infinite cosmic consciousness of nothingness and the 11-dimension space-time of string theory. Perhaps the geometry of your consciousness and that of your brothers is similar and being in a "close" proximity to each other, both of your ego death merged consciousneses overlaped on each other. In addition, DMT appears to give our consciousness the ability to observe in higher than our regular 4-space. So since both your consciousness have similar geometry to begin with and that they merged with the physcial space as per ego death and you can observe in higher than 4 dimensions your both were able to simulaneously observe each others relative frame of reference simultaneous, almost like your combined consciousness were in some quantum superposition. As a result, you both generated reality in some kind of dynamic state and observed the same/similar event(s).
 
Qubit said:
Psychedelic drugs like DMT allow you experience events such as ego death werein your consciousness often times merges with the physical space-time continuum, as sort of union between the infinite cosmic consciousness of nothingness and the 11-dimension space-time of string theory. Perhaps the geometry of your consciousness and that of your brothers is similar and being in a "close" proximity to each other, both of your ego death merged consciousneses overlaped on each other. In addition, DMT appears to give our consciousness the ability to observe in higher than our regular 4-space. So since both your consciousness have similar geometry to begin with and that they merged with the physcial space as per ego death and you can observe in higher than 4 dimensions your both were able to simulaneously observe each others relative frame of reference simultaneous, almost like your combined consciousness were in some quantum superposition. As a result, you both generated reality in some kind of dynamic state and observed the same/similar event(s).

Thank you Quibit, that has given me a reference point to think about. I really am bowled over by what this stuff can do. I think one day many secrets of the brain will be revealed through science that DMT has been able to do for aeons. For example, a newspaper cutting 30 years from now, "Scientists discover the secrets of the universe through abstract thinking by probing deep areas of the brain. With the ability to view in the mind the structure of the Higgs boson and the design potential of highly complex quantum machines.......if only they had checked dmt-nexus all those years ago! ;)
 
smokerx said:
Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience. This is real evidence that all these trips are not made up by our branes. The places we travel are real as reality we are in now. I wish I can do this with my wife one day.
i believe this also....cant explain it, im humbled when it comes to that, but i do tell EVERYONE i know who hadnt done it, its not a trip, or high..its a gateway to somewhere elese..where our physical cant dwell..
 
OrangeShade said:
Qubit said:
Psychedelic drugs like DMT allow you experience events such as ego death werein your consciousness often times merges with the physical space-time continuum, as sort of union between the infinite cosmic consciousness of nothingness and the 11-dimension space-time of string theory. Perhaps the geometry of your consciousness and that of your brothers is similar and being in a "close" proximity to each other, both of your ego death merged consciousneses overlaped on each other. In addition, DMT appears to give our consciousness the ability to observe in higher than our regular 4-space. So since both your consciousness have similar geometry to begin with and that they merged with the physcial space as per ego death and you can observe in higher than 4 dimensions your both were able to simulaneously observe each others relative frame of reference simultaneous, almost like your combined consciousness were in some quantum superposition. As a result, you both generated reality in some kind of dynamic state and observed the same/similar event(s).

Thank you Quibit, that has given me a reference point to think about. I really am bowled over by what this stuff can do. I think one day many secrets of the brain will be revealed through science that DMT has been able to do for aeons. For example, a newspaper cutting 30 years from now, "Scientists discover the secrets of the universe through abstract thinking by probing deep areas of the brain. With the ability to view in the mind the structure of the Higgs boson and the design potential of highly complex quantum machines.......if only they had checked dmt-nexus all those years ago! ;)

yup..
if you look at the universe, at least what we know, its impossible for a human (body) to travel to other galaxies(light years)..however my understanding from einstein is that MATTER cannot travel faster than the speed of light..any of us whove experienced dmt has felt that traveling at 1000000000 mph feeling, although not with our physical body..

only way we can travel interstellar i through our minds, and dmt shows this imo..the spirit (soul) is real, and any of us who've smoked, know this, although we dont have many other answers
 
Matter cannot be accelerated to beyond the speed of light 3*10^8 m/s. But there is noting against objects will an initial rest velocity greater than that speed. Also, quantum mechanics provides us with a loop hole regarding sharing of information at greater than the speed of light via the entaglement principle. Quantum entanglement - Wikipedia. One interesting point to note is that when matter becomes entagled it is forever, and apparently pre-big bang or just at the moment of the big bang every piece of matter and enegry in the universe was entagled, even when you separate these particles by what appears to be massive distance, they are able to instantaneous communicate with each other, at speeds that an observe would measure to be greater than the speed of light. What I am trying to say is that since we all were once an infinitely dense point / black hole object in space, we are all entangled, including our consciousness. Thus the reason can travel into deep space is because our consciousness is entangled and although it appears that there exists more than one object this is simply an illusion.
 
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