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Your MOST favorite extraction tek

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The Traveler

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Hello everyone,

Currently, the DMT-Nexus wiki holds many different extraction teks. For each tek is would be interesting to know how popular the said tek is.

Please submit your MOST favorite tek and, if you like, you can also post a rating for the tek you choose. The rating for the tek would be from 1 (horrible) up to 10 (outstanding).

If you have some extra time left then you might even submit a rating for all the tek's you have ever tried.
If you choose "Other" then please specify what that Other was.


Kind regards,

The Traveler


Here are the links to all the different teks:
Lextek
Marsofold's tek
Shaggy's Jungle Tek
The DMT Handbook
Vovin's tek
Lazyman's tek
Noman's tek
 
SWIM's favorite tech is not listed. It requires a Soxhlet, a Continuous Liquid Liquid Extractor, and lots of other stuff most people don't have so he has never bothered to post the tech.
 
Ha! SWIM used QT's as a reference (despite the stigma), and just went on his own from there. He became familiar with each part of the extraction process and honed it according to all the information he's acquired by reading the nexus. With the last couple high-yielding bulk extractions he did, he used a combination of A/B and STB, using freeze precip w/ naphtha followed by xylene and FASA on the first, and toulene and FASA on the second.
 
69ron said:
SWIM's favorite tech is not listed. It requires a Soxhlet, a Continuous Liquid Liquid Extractor, and lots of other stuff most people don't have so he has never bothered to post the tech.
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What's the benefit of all that? Do you get larger yields?
 
Yes you get larger yields because a Soxhlet can extract all the DMT from a plant. No other common method can. Plus its much less work than using one of the popular techs out there because most of the extraction is automatic. A Soxhlet can extract the same plant in fresh automatically redistilled solvent over and over and over endlessly without any human interaction. It extracts about once every 30 minutes with freshly distilled solvent. It redistills the same solvent over and over so it doesn't waste any solvent. It concentrates the extractives for you too. So you let it run while you sleep overnight and go to work and that's easily 18 hours of run time equivalent to about 36 extractions on the same plant material! Try doing that manually!

A continuous liquid liquid extractor can separate the water and non-polar layers automatically without any emulsion problems. You put your solvents together and let it run overnight, then go to work, and when you come home it’s don’t about 36 liquid defats or liquid extractions! Try doing that manually with a separator funnel. Oh my god, your hands will be so sore!

The only part SWIM does manually is the purification stage where he freeze precipitates the DMT in heptane.
 
After the 5th pull, probably 92% is extracted if you did it manually, but that’s not the point. The point is that a Soxhlet and a Continuous Liquid Liquid Extractor do all the work for you. You can’t beat that. The fact that they can extract 99.99% of all the alkaloids if used right is really just a side benefit. It's the automatic extraction that's the real benefit.
 
Ah, good to see all these reactions, thank you all for that.

69ron, maybe it's an idea to post that Soxhlet extraction tek anyway? Even though not everyone is able to perform such an extraction it might be interesting for a select few. It isn't any more dangerous then a 'normal' extraction isn't it? Only way more expensive I guess.


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
In many ways it's safer, because your interaction with the solvents, acids, and bases are minimized. Also because of the condensers used, almost no solvent vapor escapes during the Soxhlet, CLLE, and distilling stages, so your exposure to solvent vapor is minimized.

At some point when I have time I’ll post the tech. It’s based on chacruna, not mimosa. When I post it, I want it to be thorough and explain every step in detail, so that it’s not just a step by step but also a tech to teach people how to properly use a Soxhlet, a CLLE, and distilling apparatus. If I post a tech and it doesn’t explain how they work and why they are used, it’ll generate a whole bunch of questions from novices, especially since the tech deviates so much from the normal techs people see. For example, it uses sodium carbonate, not sodium hydroxide, citric acid instead of hydrochloric acid, 91% IPA is used for the initial Soxhlet extraction, DCM is used as the non-polar solvent to defat and then to extract the freebased DMT, acetone is used to recycle the DCM, heptane is used to freeze precipitate the DMT, etc., so it’s got some steps that seem odd until they are explained properly.

The main thing that I’m afraid of when posting a tech that isn’t properly explained is that I known many people will try it and not know how to use a CLLE, still, or Soxhlet properly, and then end up with little or no DMT at the end and then complain to me about it. So the tech needs to be very detailed to avoid that.
 
SWIM has been using a variation of the Noman TEK for dmt. Although now he has a lot of calcium hydroxide and d-limonene and will probably be exploring alternate TEKs. The variation uses the 1gr MHRB to 1gr Lye to 15ml water ratios. He powders the MHRB and puts it into a crock pot with the lye and water. He then lets it cook for a few hours. After a few hours he adds 100ml Naptha and mixes well over the next hour or so. Next he carefully removes the naptha without taking any of the MHRB/Water and puts it into a baby food jar and puts it into the freezer. A few hours later he can pour off the naptha and let fairly clean crystals dry out. He adds enough fresh naptha to the remaining Naptha to make another 100ml pull and repeats this until he feels that he has depleted the remaining dmt in the MHRB/Water to the point where he doesn't want to bother with it.
This variation of the TEK is very easy and produces a high yield in a short period of time.
SWIM uses a variation of 69Ron's d-limonene TEK for mescaline with great results and will be exploring it's use and Jorkest's TEK on other alkaloids.
 
memo said:
SWIM has been using a variation of the Noman TEK for dmt. Although now he has a lot of calcium hydroxide and d-limonene and will probably be exploring alternate TEKs. The variation uses the 1gr MHRB to 1gr Lye to 15ml water ratios. He powders the MHRB and puts it into a crock pot with the lye and water. He then lets it cook for a few hours. After a few hours he adds 100ml Naptha and mixes well over the next hour or so. Next he carefully removes the naptha without taking any of the MHRB/Water and puts it into a baby food jar and puts it into the freezer. A few hours later he can pour off the naptha and let fairly clean crystals dry out. He adds enough fresh naptha to the remaining Naptha to make another 100ml pull and repeats this until he feels that he has depleted the remaining dmt in the MHRB/Water to the point where he doesn't want to bother with it.
This variation of the TEK is very easy and produces a high yield in a short period of time.
SWIM uses a variation of 69Ron's d-limonene TEK for mescaline with great results and will be exploring it's use and Jorkest's TEK on other alkaloids.
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what type of lye is being used? If using sodium hydroxide, that would concern SWIM around a stove...
 
SWIM puts his crock pot outside to do this TEK. He uses Red Devil Lye. He is planning on getting away from this TEK but he uses Nitrile gloves and safety glasses while working with the LYE.
 
69ron, SWIM is very interested by what your friend has been using. Soxhlets are not that expensive, and the rest prob not that bad either.
 
69ron said:
...snip... For example, it uses sodium carbonate, not sodium hydroxide, citric acid instead of hydrochloric acid, 91% IPA is used for the initial Soxhlet extraction, DCM is used as the non-polar solvent to defat and then to extract the freebased DMT, acetone is used to recycle the DCM, heptane is used to freeze precipitate the DMT, etc., so it’s got some steps that seem odd until they are explained properly.

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My sugar glider has all of these things except for the DCM (CFC pollutant :cry: ) and the heptane (easily accessible HD).

Already went through a few regular soxhlet runs and Noman Tek (current favorite) STB'd the resulting juice, but did not yield much if anything at all. The spice all soaked into the coffee filter paper ~10mg. Extracted as a test from 33mg of Chacruna, but didn't really know what my sugar glider was doing was doing.
 
smokeydaze said:
How much did one of those set you back? what other apparatuses are used in the extraction?
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My sugar glider used a 50/50 mix of half cheap glass (used stuff soxhlet, Thermolyne hotplate on EB) and half new lab glass (<$50 small pieces adapters/PTFE sleeves) and materials, apparachicks and tools will set the experimenter back about $700 USD.

Not including living or once-living materials, save for an extra $100-200.
 
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